literally no one is asking for this. the site looks worse with your font size change, on desktop and mobile, and you are squarely to blame.
it is obvious that it is your personal preference that the font size be larger. it is also obvious that the overwhelming majority of the user base, that is engaged enough to offer feedback, does not want this.
i am legitimately sorry for my brothers and sisters that bought 4k screens without knowing what it means. but their ignorance should not trap this site into catering to their malresolution. The font size was fine, the new size looks like a console game's UI stretched over a PC monitor.
the fact that font size has so occupied your faculties while so many other deficiencies with the site and UI exist belay your preference. We know, it is hard to want a thing that is not commonly accepted as good or desired. Yet, that does not mean that you are correct in forcing your will upon others. Let our pixels be free, for we are myopic and do not rely on the good will of others to be rendered in a readable fashion.
Also, try buying a screen that is lower resolution for the equivalent real estate. It's an easier option than making website designs cater to your (poorly) preferred resolution.
Literally no one when several people in this thread alone asked for it? Heh, ok. There's also a poll where more than a third of people voted that they need to enlarge the font size on the Codex to use it. But sure, it's just my preference.
Jesus fucking Christ man. What is wrong with you? Why are you acting so defensive on this whole ordeal? Calm down.
You have been here longer than most and seen enough of what we all talk about to understand the reason we all ended up here is to have one place where we didn't have to deal with this whole progressive crap that has been degrading not only games but technology and the internet as a whole. All your arguments against our complaints boil down to "you hate change", "you don't understand shit about web design", "you are just contrarian fucks", "I know better than the lot of you", while citing what "Google defines as good" or "Google requires bigger fonts" or "mobile user experience requires that".
Who the hell cares about what Google defines as good? They have made some of the worst design changes in history. YouTube has been butchered countless times and it only remains on top because nobody else has the money to create anything similar, or, using the similar arguments as those used here: people don't like change and will rather stick to a worst UX rather than move somewhere else. Google's web apps are bloated beyond belief and violate web standards repeatedly. You can't even have proper icons anymore for Google apps because they managed to fuck something as simple as an icon.
Mobile user experience will also always be terrible no matter what because phones are not desktop computers, theirs screens are tiny, touch interfaces will always be extremely limited, and their portrait orientation cramps everything and makes reading anything terrible. Making the experience worse for people browsing on a desktop is precisely what gaming developers have been doing these past decades and nothing good came out of it as a result. Also, this is what most sites do to provide a good experience for desktop and mobile users:
You're mistaking stating facts for acting defensive. I'm just presenting the facts, I'm well aware that they are not to many people's liking, but that's life for you. I'm not going to agree with something that I know is incorrect just to avoid the wrath of some Codex dwellers. I didn't make the new style, so you're barking up the wrong tree. Twiglard was in the same camp as you at hating the original new layout that DU presented, and then spent quite a bit of time and effort to edit it to what he considered to be much better, and I agreed in principle. But given all the outpouring of bile over his version as well now, it's anybody's guess whether he'll want to completely redo it again, knowing that it will never be good enough for the major complainers.
I think that you're being considerably overdramatic about how certain minor adjustments for mobiles have ruined your life, so I can't take that seriously, sorry.
Yes, that means two separate interfaces, but it also makes the best use of both instead of compromising both for the sake of one.
I understand and agree that updating the forums is necessary. Software gets outdated and security/usability/performance comes only with new versions. I know that, I have been working with software development since the late 90's, although web development is not something I've ever done other than fixing things on my end with CSS or JS injection. I also know that when users complained about changes their APIs it was not because they hated change, but because something they used to have is now broken or changed so dramatically that they either: 1) have to relearn everything and adapt existing workflows; or 2) the functionality is lost forever and not coming back, requiring user-made workarounds. Nobody complained when Windows 7 came out and superseded Vista because it was an obvious improvement in several ways. Everybody complained when Windows 8 came out and forced a tablet interface on a desktop environment.
We can never complain to Google or Microsoft about the crap they have been doing for the past decade. There will never be a human being on the other end to acknowledge and act upon user feedback. We can complain here, and most of our complaints have been tossed aside since the beta site when we pointed out about the poor choice of colors, poor contrast, cramped interface, and poor readability as a result. Some users are having headaches, I got my eyes literally sore because of the poor contrast after a few minutes of using the site. Nothing has really changed since the beta on this regard, nor has it been acknowledged as part of what will be ironed out in the future. Instead we are hearing things like making the site consistent across mobiles or justifications as to why the current choices are right and we are all wrong. We provide constructive criticism up to a point where nothing comes out of it, then shit starts to derail like it's already happening.
The site not using more horizontal space makes no sense. Moving our heads from left to right is not something that happens to people that actually sit at a reasonable distance from their screens. Having everything cramped into a small column in the center of the screen is not a good user experience as it wastes a lot of usable space and requires more and more scrolling. Just try to read some of the let's play threads like this and notice how all the images are now horizontally compressed to the maximum screen width, and how you it makes it harder to read the text inside images as a result. This is worse UX because of this design choice. I have seen other forums that migrated to XenForo 2 and they all use my entire screen, and, allegedly, the developers of these forums also followed UI/UX principles and I don't see many complaints after the UI gets updated to reflect what most users are complaining about.
XenForo has an inbuilt mobile version and we work with that alongside Tapatalk. But for years now, Google hasn't cared about the desktop versions of any sites any more. They rate and rank any website according to their mobile versions. The common misconception on the Codex and the common grudge is that "nobody" is using mobiles anyway, and that anyone who does is a retard anyway and doesn't count.
But moving on to actual facts vs. the Codex fantasies; on most websites, the number of mobile users today
exceeds the number of desktop users already. So desktop users are in the
minority. On the Codex, the number of mobile users is nearing 40%; in a few years, desktop users will be the minority as well.
Lament that all you want, but those are the facts. So Google isn't the stupid one here or forcing some horrible hidden agenda to deprive the Codexers of some imaginary rights. They were simply able to detect and correctly predict the trend that mobiles will prevail everywhere in a few years and are preparing web masters for this fact accordingly so that they're not caught with their pants down when one day they wake up and check the stats and see that the number of mobile users is higher than those on desktops.
But moving back to the layout again; Twiglard's changed dozens of things about it, so saying that nothing was changed is both totally inaccurate and frankly ridiculous. How anyone's eyes are bleeding or anyone is getting headaches, I have no idea. I'm extremely sensitive to things like that and light forum styles are practically unusable for me, but I'm having no problems whatsover and no eye strain with this one. So clearly, the experience here is very subjective again. Plenty of people have their monitors miscalibrated, which is one explanation how something that works perfectly fine for me can be problematic for someone else. So making assumptions that one user's subjective experience is the same as another's often turns out to be incorrect.
And you're talking about a forum upgrade that's literally been around for X
hours, complaining as if it's been the same for 3 months already. This isn't a full time job for me or anyone else here. Even in these few hours, a bunch of stuff's already been done.
And no, you're not going to convince me that a fluid layout is better than fixed width. There's a very good reason why no books stretch their text across both pages and why newspaper articles are laid out in columns. There are readability standards that you're defying due to your personal preference and that's that. My own personal experience is completely contrary to yours so I disagree with yours in every aspect, but at least my preference is backed up by standards that go back to the invention of print, whereas yours has no other basis than personal preference. But as I've said here several times before, that's fine, there'll be both a fluid and fixed width layout to keep you happy.
So take your own advice, calm down and give it time.
