X-COM XCOM 2 + War of the Chosen Expansion Thread

[Perkel]

PC is beta, full release on consoles year later.

Also:

And though Firaxis plans to add it in the future, the current plan is to launch without gamepad support.

It fucking annoyed me when i had to use pad to play Long War because of how shit XCOM m+k were.

 

[Riso]

 

[hemtae]

They aren't planning on supporting gamepads at launch for XCOM 2 though.

 

[ColCol]

What is the point of the pectoid? I would think the goal would be to create the equivalent of a psionic muton. Not to create some giant naked asshole.

 

[Zombra]

If i didn't like nuxcom 1, will this be salvageable?

Doubtful. Looks like this is more or less going to have the exact same gameplay framework.

 

[Modron]

What is the point of the pectoid? I would think the goal would be to create the equivalent of a psionic muton. Not to create some giant naked asshole.

Sectoids were butthurt that after conquering the galaxy they couldn't win the Mr. Universe contest and so they were created to counter Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Brazilian Slaughter's explanation is probably correct (where them snake women at?); however, the sectoid's new appearance could just be further uplifting by ethereals as the leader of them was whining about their frail bodies rendered them less than ideal in the final mission of enemy unknown.

 

[sser]

If anything they've emulated mankind, seeing some bits of strength in our shapes and sizes just as they have been alluded to do with various other creatures.

 

[Black]

Maybe if Solomon is given full creative control it'll be okay.

 

[Alienman]

Have they explained the story? From what I understand Xcom lost the war, but is winning the first game not canon?

 

[Modron]

Have they explained the story? From what I understand Xcom lost the war, but is winning the first game not canon?

Always seemed to me like the ethereals who invaded were a splinter group of more successful ones who were able to ascend wouldn't be surprised if there were many other mother ships out there and that they might have taken notice of the Earth's success and technological leaps in the wake of destroying that mothership.

 

[Zombra]

Have they explained the story? From what I understand Xcom lost the war, but is winning the first game not canon?

Right. XCOM flopped, aliens took over. They did the same thing in the UFO series. Makes for a better sequel than "no more aliens".

 

[Alienman]

Well the old games have an actual explanation. The brain thingy on Mars sent out a beam before dying awakening a slumbering gigantic mother-ship under the seas in TFTD that crashed on earth millions of years ago.
And Xcom 3 is explained that the wars ravaged Earth so badly that humanity is now forced to live in gigantic protected cities, which the aliens now attack through dimension gates. Humans won the wars but at a high cost.

Did they take the easy way out and say that the war was lost the moment aliens arrived in Xcom 1 or will there be an actual explanation? I will still play the game if no explanation is provided but it will disappoint me and hamper the enjoyment somewhat, knowing that everything in the first game was all just a dream.

 

[Zombra]

Did they take the easy way out and say that the war was lost the moment aliens arrived in Xcom 1 or will there be an actual explanation? I will still play the game if no explanation is provided but it will disappoint me and hamper the enjoyment somewhat, knowing that everything in the first game was all just a dream.

There's no explanation yet that I know of, but there's very little info out yet generally.

As for it all being a dream -

Spoiler

The purpose of the invasion in the 2012 game wasn't to take over Earth, and winning the game didn't mean destroying the aliens. My understanding is that the whole point of the XCOM story was a massive stress training program to induce psi powers in humans that the aliens couldn't develop themselves. So once you succeed at that and show them how it's done, you've basically given the aliens everything they want, and at that point they can bring the hammer down and enslave us.

 

[Riso]

The aliens have won 72.1% of the time. XCOM was a terrible ran organisation that was bound to fail.

 

[Athelas]

Have they said anything about making the 2-move/1 action system (or whatever you call it) less retarded more flexible?

 

[Zeriel]

Have they said anything about making the 2-move/1 action system (or whatever you call it) less retarded more flexible?

You can waypoint within your moves. That's all I've heard on that front.

 

[Talby]

So we're the rebel alliance fighting an evil alien government now? Ehhh. Not sure if want. I like the classic XCom premise of a united humanity fighting outside invaders, now it's just another game about plucky guerilla fighters vs evil tyranny.

 

[Zeriel]

So we're the rebel alliance fighting an evil alien government now? Ehhh. Not sure if want. I like the classic XCom premise of a united humanity fighting outside invaders, now it's just another game about plucky guerilla fighters vs evil tyranny.

It's essentially X-COM Apocalypse. But a lot of people did hate that game even back in the day, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

It's initially a bit weird that they just handwaved all of XCOM 1, but I don't really care, XCOM is about gameplay not story. Also, most people failed their first Iron Man playthrough, so it's not even that unlikely either.

 

[Infinitron]

The bad guys winning being canon is pretty rare in video games. Before this, the most prominent example I can think of is the first Warcraft. Orc victory is canon.

Any other examples?

EDIT: Well, Brood War and Frozen Throne, I guess, but you don't really have a "choice" there.

EDIT 2: Ooh, I know. The original Star Control.

 

[ColCol]

At the end of new X-com the aliens implied a new threat was coming. I'm not sure if that was what defeated earth or if the new canon is that the earth lost to the first alien invaders.

 

[Zeriel]

At the end of new X-com the aliens implied a new threat was coming. I'm not sure if that was what defeated earth or if the new canon is that the earth lost to the first alien invaders.

Solomon already touched on this. Canon is that XCOM never got advanced tech or captured aliens, they got steamrolled. Basically what happened when every new player hit Impossible + Iron-Man and got gibbed right away.

 

[Black]

Have they explained the story? From what I understand Xcom lost the war, but is winning the first game not canon?

XCOM fought off the actual militaristic offence but aliens launched another, much more insidious and sinister campaign.
You see, aliens realized they don't need to overwhelm hu-mans, that they only need to brainwash them and I'm not even talking about mind-fucks.
They sent infiltrators to start campaigns in media, twitters, facebooks and other signs of hu-man cancer. The leftists that were running rampant by then were easily swayed to protect those poor misunderstood oppressed creatures.
Soon, anyone who wasn't an alien-loving scum was labelled homo sapiens sapiens-scum, extrat-phobe, worse than Hitler and else. Rags such as Guardian, Jezebel, Saloon and similar were more than happy to offer what's left of their minds and dignity, launching #xenolivesmatter, #xenoappreciationday and #xenohistoryday on twitter. It didn't take long for the humanity to drop to its knees and start slurping on those delicious multi-headed tentacles and snaketits.
Alas, the XCOM command wasn't trained in culture warfare.

 

[ColCol]

Have they explained the story? From what I understand Xcom lost the war, but is winning the first game not canon?

XCOM fought off the actual militaristic offence but aliens launched another, much more insidious and sinister campaign.
You see, aliens realized they don't need to overwhelm hu-mans, that they only need to brainwash them and I'm not even talking about mind-fucks.
They sent infiltrators to start campaigns in media, twitters, facebooks and other signs of hu-man cancer. The leftists that were running rampant by then were easily swayed to protect those poor misunderstood oppressed creatures.
Soon, anyone who wasn't an alien-loving scum was labelled homo sapiens sapiens-scum, extrat-phobe, worse than Hitler and else. Rags such as Guardian, Jezebel, Saloon and similar were more than happy to offer what's left of their minds and dignity, launching #xenolivesmatter, #xenoappreciationday and #xenohistoryday on twitter. It didn't take long for the humanity to drop and its knees and start slurping on those delicious multi-headed tentacles and snaketits.
Alas, the XCOM commend wasn't trained in culture warfare.

If only the codex was there

 

[Black]

Have they explained the story? From what I understand Xcom lost the war, but is winning the first game not canon?

XCOM fought off the actual militaristic offence but aliens launched another, much more insidious and sinister campaign.
You see, aliens realized they don't need to overwhelm hu-mans, that they only need to brainwash them and I'm not even talking about mind-fucks.
They sent infiltrators to start campaigns in media, twitters, facebooks and other signs of hu-man cancer. The leftists that were running rampant by then were easily swayed to protect those poor misunderstood oppressed creatures.
Soon, anyone who wasn't an alien-loving scum was labelled homo sapiens sapiens-scum, extrat-phobe, worse than Hitler and else. Rags such as Guardian, Jezebel, Saloon and similar were more than happy to offer what's left of their minds and dignity, launching #xenolivesmatter, #xenoappreciationday and #xenohistoryday on twitter. It didn't take long for the humanity to drop and its knees and start slurping on those delicious multi-headed tentacles and snaketits.
Alas, the XCOM commend wasn't trained in culture warfare.

If only the codex was there

The Codex was too distracted by the skyrim vs fo4 debate.

 

[Jaedar]

At the end of new X-com the aliens implied a new threat was coming. I'm not sure if that was what defeated earth or if the new canon is that the earth lost to the first alien invaders.

Solomon already touched on this. Canon is that XCOM never got advanced tech or captured aliens, they got steamrolled. Basically what happened when every new player hit Impossible + Iron-Man and got gibbed right away.

If so, then there's no Volunteer, and the whole purpose of the invasion is defeated. Retconning that way just makes no sense.

Expecting the story in neuxcom to make sense after having played the final mission