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Would you pledge to a new Obsidian Kickstarter?

Would you pledge to a new Obsidian Kickstarter?

  • YES, in the blink of an eye.

    Votes: 71 16.7%
  • YES, but only if Sawyer is not involved in any form or manner.

    Votes: 15 3.5%
  • YES, only if is an Avellone project.

    Votes: 23 5.4%
  • NO, thank you very much.

    Votes: 96 22.6%
  • Depends on the pitch, setting, etc.

    Votes: 138 32.5%
  • YES, only if It's a Tim Cain project.

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • YES, only if Sawyer is involved.

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • YES, if turn-based

    Votes: 28 6.6%
  • Not gonna happen with MCA gone

    Votes: 24 5.7%

  • Total voters
    424

Curious_Tongue

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I thought the third option from the bottom said "YES, only if it's a Tim Curry project" and now I

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Would only do it if MCA was the creative lead on the project, else Sawyer could promise to paddle his way across the Atlantic on a kayak and I would still not back it and in fact would go out of my way to sink the fucking thing.
 
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Ok, I just wanted to see clear. Then all I can say is FUCK YOU, YOU RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT! You don't like the new stuff these companies produces? No problem, I can understand that you hate these games. But if you really can't stand these games, then don't play them, don't pirate them and play them to death, and come here whining about how these companies make shit. Or you are just making a weak lame excuse for pirating games? "Hurr hurr, I'm pirating these games because theay are shit and don't want to support the devs for making shit! - Wait a minute, I go and play the shit games for a few hours"

Idiot.

Pirating is essential for any customer with an IQ above 110 and not a vast amount of disposable income. If developers could be assed to make a demo these days, but no. Until they do that I will keep pirating games before buying them to make sure my system can run it, and that it's good enough to warrant a full playthrough.
 

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I'd rather fuck myself with a pike than back those hacks again. Any project with Sawyer as a lead will turn into trash. Besides, they approached the development of the game as if they meant to market a low priority low-effort money grab, they did even schedule their b-team, meaning it was a trial run (with our money) for the newbies while the big boys were left idle (or censored by the primadonna who couldn't accept the input of people clearly more talented than himself).
Compared to the Witcher 3, which is a game the developers clearly loved and put lot of effort into, PoE is a stinking mediocre low-effort turd.
 
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Compared to the Witcher 3, which is a game the developers clearly loved and put lot of effort into, PoE is a stinking mediocre low-effort turd.

If you like a console casual RPG over a mediocre computer RPG like pillars of eternity you don't belong here. That said, it is true that very little love was put in Pillars of Eternity beyond a few bits, apparently. I blame their low budget and not being able to monitor their staff properly, making them redo stuff...
 

crawlkill

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wasn't too hot on Pillars in the end, but they have to do a lot worse than "meh" to lose my money.
 

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Pirating is essential for any customer with an IQ above 110 and not a vast amount of disposable income.

zzzz...

Your attempt at justification is boring. Just admit you're a thief. I suspect we could count on the fingers of a high school shop teacher's hand the number of games you're torrented for "demo" purposes and then actually paid for.
 
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Pirating is essential for any customer with an IQ above 110 and not a vast amount of disposable income.

zzzz...

Your attempt at justification is boring. Just admit you're a thief. I suspect we could count on the fingers of a high school shop teacher's hand the number of games you're torrented for "demo" purposes and then actually paid for.

Wanna see my steam library?
 

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Pirating is not essential since games, while fun, are not needed to keep you alive or pass down your genes. Unless you are playing some abandonware title that isnt sold anymore, there is little excuse to pirate a game. This is especially true nowadays since there are so many great games to be had for under 20 bucks. Play what interests you and you are fine.
 
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I'd back them. I've liked or at least found some enjoyment in every one of Obsidian's modern games. This includes Dungeon Siege and yes, even POE. Their games can be are usually flawed but hey, that's life. At least they're trying.
 
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Pirating is not essential since games, while fun, are not needed to keep you alive or pass down your genes. Unless you are playing some abandonware title that isnt sold anymore, there is little excuse to pirate a game. This is especially true nowadays since there are so many great games to be had for under 20 bucks. Play what interests you and you are fine.

No because there used to be such a thing called a demo. I wonder why? Maybe because the PC costumers back then used to be more picky and not waste 60$ on a game that their computer couldn't run, or that would turn out to be disappointing. The last game I remember doing that was Diablo 3.

Aren't you from east Europa? Demos were all the rage in third world countries.
 

Shevek

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Dude, we have youtube and twitch now. Most people put up lets plays as soon as the game is out. You can even insta stream views of people playing via Steam. The internet itself is also far more efficient at delivering folks opinions via critic or user reviews, message boards and the like en masse and sifting through a variety of opinions on specific topics of a single game is incredibly easy with some rudimentary google-fu. So, naw man, sorry. I just disagree.
 
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Yeah those autistic let's players are better than a hands on impression and I know exactly where to find my soul mates on the internet that experiences things the same things I do. Technical sides, no way I can tell what my computer will run well and what it won't. No way those requirements ever work, and they don't tell me about FPSs or other possible technical difficulties.

No, demo existed for a reason. But now you have enough No lifes with inheritance money on a consuming frenzy that they aren't released anymore as much as they used to. That was something PC gamers used to pride themselves with over consoles were you always had to rent before Buying.
 

imweasel

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Oh I have nothing against Sawyer. Maybe against Feargus, and those dudes that take the decisions to play it too safe with their games (most likely Avellone self-restraining). I'd love to play "fuck you: suck my dick, the Josh Sawyer experience", but this isn't what we're getting. More like, "please let me suck your cock: the feargus and publisher approved experience" eh?
Sorry, but you did actually get "Fuck you: Suck my Dick: Josh Sawyer's Dream RPG Experience". The only difference is that his dream game would have a historical setting instead of a fantasy one and it wouldn't have bestiary XP or lock picking XP.

Anyway, Feargus has said that he was on the fence about some of the design decisions but still gave Sawyer the benefit of the doubt for whatever reason.
 

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Yeah those autistic let's players are better than a hands on impression and I know exactly where to find my soul mates on the internet that experiences things the same things I do. Technical sides, no way I can tell what my computer will run well and what it won't. No way those requirements ever work, and they don't tell me about FPSs or other possible technical difficulties.

No, demo existed for a reason. But now you have enough No lifes with inheritance money on a consuming frenzy that they aren't released anymore as much as they used to. That was something PC gamers used to pride themselves with over consoles were you always had to rent before Buying.

I've had my mediocre gaming laptop for years and it still runs shit with ease. We arent in the mid 2000s anymore where hardware reqs were changing wildly and your pc was outdated 1 year after you bought it. We are at a place now where unless you are going for a super gfx whoring game, you are fine as far as that goes.

Also, thanks to standardized gaming hardware/api's, getting shit to run isnt the chore/gamble it was in the days of yore.
 
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Wrong. My own relatively new laptop already struggles with some games, and I have no idea whether it will handle the new Arkham or not. What am I supposed to do? People constantly lie, have confirmation bias, even on normally objective things like performance, and with a specific system it's hard to find enough evidence that you will run it well. But then whew you can pirate it, see how well it runs, if you like how it plays and the controls handle. Then you buy it if you want to access the multiplayer or not get a shit unpatched version, more unstable because the crack is mediocre.
 

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Sorry, but you did actually get "Fuck you: Suck my Dick: Josh Sawyer's Dream RPG Experience". The only difference is that his dream game would have a historical setting instead of a fantasy one and it wouldn't have bestiary XP or lock picking XP.

Anyway, Feargus has said that he was on the fence about some of the design decisions but still gave Sawyer the benefit of the doubt for whatever reason.

Uh, I don't think so. Roguey will be able to tell you more with quotes and such probably but I'm fairly sure Sawyer has mentioned a preference towards turn based combat systems and classless character systems among other things.
 

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Wrong. My own relatively new laptop already struggles with some games, and I have no idea whether it will handle the new Arkham or not. What am I supposed to do? People constantly lie, have confirmation bias, even on normally objective things like performance, and with a specific system it's hard to find enough evidence that you will run it well. But then whew you can pirate it, see how well it runs, if you like how it plays and the controls handle. Then you buy it if you want to access the multiplayer or not get a shit unpatched version, more unstable because the crack is mediocre.

I just disagree. If you want epic performance on the latest action beat em up or shooter, spend untold thousands on keeping up with the Jones' and upgrade your rig once a year. That should be understood. If you dont want to spend that cash, then go for games that will obviously run. Basically, if your shit isnt constantly well above the recommended specs, dont waste your time.

If the recommended specs are misleading and you cant use them to properly guage shit, then you have a legitimate gripe. Again, I have not experienced this 99% of the time. I have a laptop running a 660m that I got 3 years ago. Even with shitty optimus gfx switching, I do not have a hard time getting shit to run that I know I should be able to run.
 

imweasel

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Sorry, but you did actually get "Fuck you: Suck my Dick: Josh Sawyer's Dream RPG Experience". The only difference is that his dream game would have a historical setting instead of a fantasy one and it wouldn't have bestiary XP or lock picking XP.

Anyway, Feargus has said that he was on the fence about some of the design decisions but still gave Sawyer the benefit of the doubt for whatever reason.

Uh, I don't think so. Roguey will be able to tell you more with quotes and such probably but I'm fairly sure Sawyer has mentioned a preference towards turn based combat systems and classless character systems among other things.
Yeah, Sawyer prefers classless systems which I forgot to mention. That still doesn't change the fact that PoE is his baby.

Sawyer's favorite game of all time is Darklands. It is set in historical Germany, has an isometric camera, doesn't have combat XP and has RTwP combat.

I won't bother to look for any quotes about this fact. I'll leave that up to Roguey.
 
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I just disagree. If you want epic performance on the latest action beat em up or shooter, spend untold thousands on keeping up with the Jones' and upgrade your rig once a year. That should be understood. If you dont want to spend that cash, then go for games that will obviously run. Basically, if your shit isnt constantly well above the recommended specs, dont waste your time.

If the recommended specs are misleading and you cant use them to properly guage shit, then you have a legitimate gripe. Again, I have not experienced this 99% of the time. I have a laptop running a 660m that I got 3 years ago. Even with shitty optimus gfx switching, I do not have a hard time getting shit to run that I know I should be able to run.

Not realizing there is a niche for gaming laptops is being autistic.
 

Kz3r0

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Anyway, Feargus has said that he was on the fence about some of the design decisions but still gave Sawyer the benefit of the doubt for whatever reason.
Feargus did the right thing, he appointed a creative lead a didn't meddle with the project, something suits usually do, the problem is that Sawyer is not fit for a creative role in my opinion.
 
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