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[Zombra]

(close-up) dialog choices

The dialogue system will be the complex one used for TTON, tweaked slightly I think. The only difference is that the camera will go close up. It's OK if you hate a more cinematic camera but I want to make sure you're unhappy about what you mean to be unhappy about.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

(close-up) dialog choices

The dialogue system will be the complex one used for TTON, tweaked slightly I think. The only difference is that the camera will go close up. It's OK if you hate a more cinematic camera but I want to make sure you're unhappy about what you mean to be unhappy about.

Sauce? Please.

 

[Infinitron]

(close-up) dialog choices

The dialogue system will be the complex one used for TTON, tweaked slightly I think. The only difference is that the camera will go close up. It's OK if you hate a more cinematic camera but I want to make sure you're unhappy about what you mean to be unhappy about.

Sauce? Please.

Zombra might be drawing conclusions from the fact that they're using the Obsidian dialogue editor, which is also used in TToN. That doesn't mean much in and of itself, though. Obsidian use that tool in all of their games, including the ones with dialogue wheels.

 

[undecaf]

The only difference is that the camera will go close up.

There is a quote that implies the close-up is only for "key converstaions".

Perhaps it's only a partial disaster.

 

[StaticSpine]

I've got an email from inXile and I can see how the Fig page will look like.

I believe this one haven't been posted yet:

 

[FeelTheRads]

So obviously pre-rendered.

Also, why doesn't the floor texture match the shape of the tiles?

PrimeJunta, anything to say about that?

 

[Alienman]

Is that a portal to hell?

 

[StaticSpine]

Another thing:

 

[Zombra]

(close-up) dialog choices

The dialogue system will be the complex one used for TTON, tweaked slightly I think. The only difference is that the camera will go close up. It's OK if you hate a more cinematic camera but I want to make sure you're unhappy about what you mean to be unhappy about.

Sauce? Please.

The MMORPG interview.

Additionally, we’re utilizing the Pillars of Eternity conversation editor again, which is the same we used in Torment, which allows our writers to quickly mock-up and step through branching conversations. We're building on years of experience with the technology so that also helps let us do more. I think people will quite impressed when they see the video.

I guess it's possible that "doing more" means "dumbing down" - you never know - but I don't believe it. Sounds like it will be nice and robust just like in TTON.

I believe this one haven't been posted yet:

Whoa, bullshot or not, that's gorgeous.

The only difference is that the camera will go close up.

There is a quote that implies the close-up is only for "key converstaions".
Perhaps it's only a partial disaster.

Remind me why a close up camera is decline? Honest question. I like looking at tiny isometric characters in normal gameplay, but that view doesn't exactly lend itself to dramatic characterization.
I also hope that a zoomed in camera will mean better facial options for PCs. I hated how the different heads in W2DC were all based on the same mesh.

 

[undecaf]

Remind me why a close up camera is decline? Honest question. I like looking at tiny isometric characters in normal gameplay, but that view doesn't exactly lend itself to dramatic characterization.
I also hope that a zoomed in camera will mean better facial options for PCs. I hated how the different heads in W2DC were all based on the same mesh.

Don't know about decline, but I'm not so sure about the benefits of "dramatic characterization" when you are looking close up at a mute and lifeless group of people to whom a "dramatically characterized" NPC acts to according to the dialog prompts. Well, unless the cam goes all the way to a 1st person view in which case it'd likely feel less cumbersome if the transition zoom-ins were simply replaced with an enlarged window with an animated talking head over an appropriate background above the dialog UI (it'd probably even look better).

I have doubts on this thing really working for the benefit of the experience.

 

[Zombra]

Don't know about decline, but I'm not so sure about the benefits of "dramatic characterization" when you are looking close up at a mute and lifeless group of people to whom a "dramatically characterized" NPC acts to according to the dialog prompts. Well, unless the cam goes all the way to a 1st person view in which case it'd likely feel less cumbersome if the transition zoom-ins were simply replaced with an enlarged window with an animated talking head over an appropriate background above the dialog UI.

I get it, you like Fallout, but I just don't understand why this is bad

but this is good.

I have doubts on this thing really working for the benefit of the experience.

Fair enough. It still doesn't make sense to me, but thanks for the explanation anyway.

 

[undecaf]

I get it, you like Fallout...

It's not really about Fallout. I would've liked Wasteland 2 and the series from thereon to be closer to Wasteland 1 than Fallout, but here we are.

About the pics. The first pic shows a group of people all taking part in the conversation, I doubt that will be the case unless the ranger team (+companions) is also voiced and animated. The lower example abstracts the team rather than depicts them as dummies.

Nothing really more to it.

 

[Jimmious]

I respect you both for the example images

 

[Zombra]

About the pics. The first pic shows a group of people all taking part in the conversation, I doubt that will be the case unless the ranger team (+companions) is also voiced and animated. The lower example abstracts the team rather than depicts them as dummies.

Ah, I get it. But I don't see why this*

makes the characters any less wooden. If it's a choice between dummies far away or dummies close up, I don't see what the problem is with dummies close up.

*(Not picking on Fallout, it was just an easy example that came to mind.)

 

[Infinitron]

That screenshot/prototype art looks like it's showing some kind of cult. inXile game - gotta have cults.

 

[Bubbles]

That screenshot/prototype art looks like it's showing some kind of cult. inXile game - gotta have cults.

Were there any cults in Choplifter HD?

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

The chosen party.

In America, you can always choose a party.
In Soviet Russia, the Party choses YOU!

 

[undecaf]

About the pics. The first pic shows a group of people all taking part in the conversation, I doubt that will be the case unless the ranger team (+companions) is also voiced and animated. The lower example abstracts the team rather than depicts them as dummies.

Ah, I get it. But I don't see why this*

makes the characters any less wooden. If it's a choice between dummies far away or dummies close up, I don't see what the problem is with dummies close up.

*(Not picking on Fallout, it was just an easy example that came to mind.)

Suppose it has to do with detachment, dummies up close look like dummies. The distance blurs the details and just like with unvoiced dialog, you fill in the expressive blanks in your head if you want to (and provided the dialog itself isn't too "wooden" for that).

 

[Zombra]

Suppose it has to do with detachment, dummies up close look like dummies. The distance blurs the details and just like with unvoiced dialog, you fill in the expressive blanks in your head if you want to (and provided the dialog itself isn't too "wooden" for that).

I can dig it. Brofist.

I guess I want to zoom because I want to see the custom characters I made. And I'm hopeful that the graphics will be better than last time (even in W2, they were good enough I was happy to see them zoomed whenever I went into the character screen). Voiced dialogue is a very illustrative point, thank you; but of course there's a big difference between a graphically-customized character I made and some voice actor doing their own interpretation. If we had decent voice synth nowadays, I would want to give my characters custom voices and hear them talk a lot ... even if the effect was somewhat wooden.

 

[undecaf]

Suppose it has to do with detachment, dummies up close look like dummies. The distance blurs the details and just like with unvoiced dialog, you fill in the expressive blanks in your head if you want to (and provided the dialog itself isn't too "wooden" for that).

I can dig it. Brofist.

I guess I want to zoom because I want to see the custom characters I made. And I'm hopeful that the graphics will be better than last time (even in W2, they were good enough I was happy to see them zoomed whenever I went into the character screen). Voiced dialogue is a very illustrative point, thank you; but of course there's a big difference between a graphically-customized character I made and some voice actor doing their own interpretation. If we had decent voice synth nowadays, I would want to give my characters custom voices and hear them talk a lot ... even if the effect was somewhat wooden.

No argument. I'm just more inclined towards a more abstract and interpreted depiction than an up close and detailed one. Also don't really care much what the characters might look like beyond the portrait the charactersheet image.

 

[Old One]

I want to see a Wasteland game made from the point-of-view of the toaster.

 

[DosBuster]

Fun fact: those screenshots are made by the developers of stasis.

 

[DosBuster]

Additionally, we've been working closely with Christopher and Nic Bischoff of Brotherhood Games, the team behind the widely celebrated STASIS, Cayne and the upcoming Beautiful Desolation. In fact, they’re responsible for the beautiful prototype screenshots and video you’ve seen so far!

 

[Mustawd]

Fun fact. This is old news dawg.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Fun fact: Then it's guaranteed they're 2D renders (which is what they look like) and the actual game will look nowhere near that. But most people won't have a clue about it and donate thinking that's what they'll get.

Prototype screenshots... Also known as "we could never actually make it like this, but wouldn't it be totally cool if we could????"

This is worse than Bethesda level of lying.