Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Excidium]

ToEE is 3E with move action and standard action, why do that instead of good old action points?

Why not have movement points separated from action points? I mean it makes perfect sense that you can do some things while moving, even though it might be harder and/or limit how far you can move.

 

[tuluse]

Why not have movement points separated from action points? I mean it makes perfect sense that you can do some things while moving, even though it might be harder and/or limit how far you can move.

Well 3E doesn't do that anyways.

I think it would be cool, but it could complicated to manage movement points and action points effectively.

 

[Excidium]

Why not have movement points separated from action points? I mean it makes perfect sense that you can do some things while moving, even though it might be harder and/or limit how far you can move.

Well 3E doesn't do that anyways.

I think it would be cool, but it could complicated to manage movement points and action points effectively.

Yeah, I know, what I mainly want is to avoid the situation where you have to sacrifice your entire action in a turn to take a single step because it'll leave you a fraction of AP short of an attack.

I guess a more simple way of achieving that would be to make attacks cheap but innacurate, and let you invest AP for aiming or automatic fire.

 

[Lhynn]

Why not have movement points separated from action points? I mean it makes perfect sense that you can do some things while moving, even though it might be harder and/or limit how far you can move.

Well 3E doesn't do that anyways.

I think it would be cool, but it could complicated to manage movement points and action points effectively.

Yeah, I know, what I mainly want is to avoid the situation where you have to sacrifice your entire action in a turn to take a single step because it'll leave you a fraction of AP short of an attack.

I guess a more simple way of achieving that would be to make attacks cheap but innacurate, and let you invest AP for aiming or automatic fire.

or just let you make an attack that spends all of your remaining AP, or a defensive mode i guess, that gets better the more AP you got left.

 

[Gord]

If you're not going to use a grid for movement, why would you use it for placement?

I guess because I'd think that it will make stuff like blocking chokepoints, handling who can attack whom, etc. easier.
But maybe I just need it to look tidy because I have an undiagnosed OCD.

 

[Infinitron]

http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=4545&p=76646#p76646

Re: Update 35: We’re Still Listening
by Brother None » September 18th, 2013, 8:46 pm

One thing we didn't talk about in the update; the raiders "auto-detecting" the Rangers was a bug. They need to spot them to know where they are.

Yuri wrote:

But there is no word on using party in dialogues again.

In dialog you can use skill checks of any ranger within range.

 

[Infinitron]

New interview: http://www.dealspwn.com/wasteland-2-preview-choices-155180

 

[Infinitron]

Another one?! http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/92114/Brian Fargo: "I've never had more pressure to ship a game"/

 

[Kem0sabe]

Another one?! http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/92114/Brian Fargo: "I've never had more pressure to ship a game"/

"I've never had more pressure to ship a game in my life. For sure. Kickstarter there's a lot of... I mean it's all I mean I love it. But it's very personal. You're putting yourself out there to succeed or fail for the world to see."

It's understandable, the iphone game scene is a bit more laid back in terms of pressure on the developers. Fargo just needs to adapt to the PC reality.

 

[shihonage]

You don't understand. It's all a part of the plan. When the game comes out, the choice&consequence chain will be linking to Fargo's interviews about what the game should play like.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Hipsters with long hair. I hate 'em.

 

[Infinitron]

Trademark defense successful: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/09/30/wastland-kings-is-now-nuclear-throne/

After announcing the game for PC, PlayStation 4 and PlayStation Vita during Sony’s press conference at gamescom, we were contacted by a Dutch employee of InXile Entertainment, the studio behind 1988 title Wasteland and the recent Kickstarter for Wasteland 2. They explained that InXile CEO Brian Fargo and some of the team were worried about possible brand confusion and argued that Wasteland Kings could be misinterpreted as a title in the ‘Wasteland’ franchise.

Brother None

 

[FeelTheRads]

Kind of like Bethesda badgering Notch about his Scrolls game or whatever it was called.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Dutch employee of InXile Entertainment

This sounds awesome and fun on so many levels.

 

[dunno lah]

That should be Brother None's sig or something...

 

[Brother None]

Thomas "Dutch" Beekers

Dutchman in Exile

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Ramireza]

Ok, its october now. When the beta pledgers will get access to the beta?

 

[cherry blossom]

Kind of like Bethesda badgering Notch about his Scrolls game or whatever it was called.

That's different. Notch filed a trademark patent for the word "Scrolls" so that any game containing that word in its title would be in potential risk of infringing upon somebody else's (ie. Notch's) property and paying for "damages" in return. Bethesda taking action against it was only natural in their own interest. It was a pretty stupid thing to do on Notch's part, for a shit little game nobody would even give a damn to infringe with shady intentions. Plus, unless I'm mistaken, he didn't even have to file a patent under the trademark laws of most of the western world as the moment your product comes into being, it becomes protected by default with its existence as legal proof.

What InXile did, however, is true scumbaggery. Plenty of games with the name Wasteland in its title. The "concern" is an utterly bullshit one.

 

[Infinitron]

What InXile did, however, is true scumbaggery. Plenty of games with the name Wasteland in its title. The "concern" is an utterly bullshit one.

Brother None It's PR time.

 

[cherry blossom]

Indeed it is.

 

[Infinitron]

Indeed it is.

Well, FWIW, he's told me that it doesn't matter whether or not Wasteland Kings filed a trademark. inXile's trademark must nonetheless be defended. Also, I only know of one other game with that word in its title, Wasteland Angel, which was made B.K. (Before Kickstarter).

 

[Blaine]

Ok, its october now. When the beta pledgers will get access to the beta?

My money's on it getting pushed "back" (or more properly, forward; such imbecilic terminology) to Q1 2014.

 

[Infinitron]

Ok, its october now. When the beta pledgers will get access to the beta?

My money's on it getting pushed "back" (or more properly, forward; such imbecilic terminology) to Q1 2014.

Doubtful.

"October" doesn't mean October 1st.

 

[cherry blossom]

Wasteland Angel
Nuclear Wasteland
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

I thought I remembered a few more but it doesn't seem like it. It's still ridiculous regardless.

inXile's trademark must nonetheless be defended

That sounds so ironically hilarious for some reason.