Warcraft III: Reforged - now with lowest user metacritic score of all time

[Reinhardt]

Funny, how they include blacks, browns etc, but human civilization in games is always medieval european kingdoms with knights and sheeeeit. Now THAT'S white supremacy and eurocenrism, not making all characters in medieval Bohemia white.

 

[Infinitron]

Uh. Lots of people in this thread seem to be talking about this game in the context of some Great Cultural And Moral Decline Of Gaming, but this isn't some misguided creative effort by radicals. It's just a failed cashgrab, the likes of which have existed since the beginning of video games.

 

[Lacrymas]

The problem is that it's a failed cashgrab lololol. It's just higher profile because Blizz.

 

[Storyfag]

Funny, how they include blacks, browns etc, but human civilization in games is always medieval european kingdoms with knights and sheeeeit. Now THAT'S white supremacy and eurocenrism, not making all characters in medieval Bohemia white.

This is exactly what they are attempting to subvert. They are trying to create a narrative in which medieval european kingdoms were not predominantly white.

 

[Lacrymas]

No, "they" don't want to do that.

 

[Reinhardt]

Funny, how they include blacks, browns etc, but human civilization in games is always medieval european kingdoms with knights and sheeeeit. Now THAT'S white supremacy and eurocenrism, not making all characters in medieval Bohemia white.

This is exactly what they are attempting to subvert. They are trying to create a narrative in which medieval european kingdoms were not predominantly white.

Still whiter than Africa. And that's why they succeed where other failed.

Basically developers and filmmakers openly show contempt for white culture, but in reality they despise others even more. Despise them enough to not even allow them to have their own culture.

 

[Daedalos]

Uh. Lots of people in this thread seem to be talking about this game in the context of some Great Cultural And Moral Decline Of Gaming, but this isn't some misguided creative effort by radicals. It's just a failed cashgrab, the likes of which have existed since the beginning of video games.

The point that's being made, is that Blizzard at least historically, would never really do failed cashgrabs or cashgrabs at all. They used to be about quality first and foremost. That's what the outrage is about. Blizzard used to be the high bastion of incline in the old days of gaming, how they have fallen, and now been reduced to this.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

own

You don't own proprietary software, you're licensing it.

 

[Reinhardt]

Remember times when Blizzard was "when it's ready"?

 

[Citizen]

Uh. Lots of people in this thread seem to be talking about this game in the context of some Great Cultural And Moral Decline Of Gaming, but this isn't some misguided creative effort by radicals. It's just a failed cashgrab, the likes of which have existed since the beginning of video games.

Honestly I wouldn't care at all if the classic version was easily available alongside the new one. They basically erased the old TFT from history, making even the people without reforged play an inferior version. This cunty action deserves all the hate they get and more

 

[cvv]

Uh. Lots of people in this thread seem to be talking about this game in the context of some Great Cultural And Moral Decline Of Gaming, but this isn't some misguided creative effort by radicals. It's just a failed cashgrab, the likes of which have existed since the beginning of video games.

Dark Souls Remaster is a brazen cashgrab. This...dunno. I've just seen a short breakdown of what's wrong with Reforged and it's stuff like EULA, custom campaigns and multiplayer, something I personally don't give a fuck about. As an uber-casual fan of the old Blizzard, I'd be perfectly happy with this game if it was like 15 bucks. It's got widescreen support, HD textures, even a ton of new assets and animations...that's more than enough for me. Only the price is pants on head retarded.

 

[Lyric Suite]

HD textures that look like shit, all the assets feel awkward and out of place, can't use custom maps, interface is a web browser, pointless gender-swapped units, Samwise icon replaced with horse faced chink with purple hair nobody has ever even seen before, nuBattle.net instead of the far superior older one.

I mean, come on guys, for 15 bucks, look all the stuff you are getting.

 

[Lyric Suite]

but this isn't some misguided creative effort by radicals. It's just a failed cashgrab

No, it's both. That's how we got this perfect storm of a disaster.

Don't forget, the original plan was to add to the story and writing, update the characters to their current nuWoW status etc. They didn't do that because they had no time, but it might still be coming in future patches.

 

[cvv]

HD textures that look like shit, all the assets feel awkward and out of place

'k

 

[Lyric Suite]

HD textures lmao:

 

[cvv]

HD textures lmao

I don't get it, you wanted a MORE thorough makeover or what? If they completely reworked the art all the manbabies would start squealing about Blizzard destroying their childhood or some such.

 

[Lyric Suite]

It looks like complete dog shit. Where's the improvement?

 

[Citizen]

I don't get it, you wanted a MORE thorough makeover or what? If they completely reworked the art all the manbabies would start squealing about Blizzard destroying their childhood or some such.

Went from a distinctive high-contrast sharp look to a bland low-contrast high-color mobile-game look, we have been discussing this for few pages already

 

[MWaser]

HD textures lmao:

the second picture makes me feel like my eyesight suddenly got a lot worse.

 

[Farewell into the night]

This is sad.

 

[cvv]

I don't get it, you wanted a MORE thorough makeover or what? If they completely reworked the art all the manbabies would start squealing about Blizzard destroying their childhood or some such.

Went from a distinctive high-contrast sharp look to a bland low-contrast high-color mobile-game look, we have been discussing this for few pages already

It looks like complete dog shit. Where's the improvement?

Seems to me like a mix of graphix whoreness and an excessive emoshunal attachment to muh good ol' days. Sure the new graphix looks like dogshit, it's not a Cryengine makeover now is it? Plus ya'll kids might not remember anymore but even the original kindda looked like dogshit when it came out. Gone was the pretty 2D art from W2, replaced by ghastly angular models from the notoriously unsightly dawn of 3D engines.

So all that waxing lyrical about muh old Warcraft is just pure nostalgiafaggotry. Your taste is no better than Blizzard's.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Original had shit art to begin with.

 

[whydoibother]

but this isn't some misguided creative effort by radicals. It's just a failed cashgrab

No, it's both. That's how we got this perfect storm of a disaster.

Don't forget, the original plan was to add to the story and writing, update the characters to their current nuWoW status etc. They didn't do that because they had no time, but it might still be coming in future patches.

When you want to make an argument, you correctly talk about how its a bad game, and a lazy cash grab. But then when it comes time to make a conclusion, you go full SJW, and act as if you proved all of this crap.
Yes, the art style looks worse. Yes, there are missing textures. Yes, the models are bad. Yes, they didn't deliver the cutscene rework, etc. Yes there are issues with custom games, there are no clans. Yes, they basically deleted the classic game. Yes, we all think its shit. No, this doesn't mean that its a cultural jihad against conservative America or whatever. Its just a company in decline trying and failing to sell a bad product. Stop hijacking gamer outrage and trying to paint it as a political revolt. Fuck off.

 

[Farewell into the night]

If they didn't screw it up, there would be probably Warcraft 4 in the future? This is a disaster.

 

[Citizen]

Seems to me like a mix of graphix whoreness and an excessive emoshunal attachment to muh old art. Sure the new graphix looks like dogshit, it's not a Cryengine makeover now is it? Plus ya'll kids might not remember anymore but even the original kindda looked like dogshit when it came out. Gone were the pretty 2D art from W2, replaced by ghastly angular models from the notoriously unsightly dawn of 3D engines.

So all that waxing lyrical about the old Warcraft is just pure nostalgiafaggotry. Your taste is no better than Blizzard's.

I agree that OG warcraft wasn't too pretty, but it had distinct "old cartoon" visual style with overdetailed high-contrast objects. It was looking like shit, but at least you could tell what kind of picture they were aiming for. New graphics look like cheap ass mobile game assets.

Moral is: if you can't do better, don't touch. They either needed to completely redo the graphics by recreating the game in SC2 engine (with SC2 visual style), or don't touch them at all, just make better animations and leave it be. Instead they made the graphics shittier and left the same old 15 fps animations lol