World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Roguey]

I don't know whether everything I cited is necessarily politically liberal. Bloodlines was what it was because of having "diverse" developers, namely Tim Cain, not because they were liberal. Equating the general acceptance, or merely existence, of minorities with the modern left or liberalism is harmful and deceptive. Case in point, everyone now thinks inclusion of them is not only a political agenda, but also a left-leaning one. For people who aren't any kind of minority, it might seem like that, but, to use the previous example, Tim Cain is always gay, not only when someone mentions politics, and it's just the way he is, including non-standard people is simply the result of his life and experience, not an agenda.

Tim just did some programming on Bloodlines. He was busy for most of it working on ToEE. And as for Timmy, well, https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...g-dumping-ground.90469/page-1639#post-4085949

 

[Harry Easter]

Except those filthy nosferatu NEET's who live in their parents sewer and shitpost on the internet all night.

No wonder they run the codex. They are the only ones that feel at home here.

Not convinced Bloodlines was good, or even above average. The first one was ok though.

I recently replayed Bloodlines. It has aged, yeah, but the writing is still strong and using skills in conversations is still as fun, as is sneaking (just because the AI doesn't see you, when your talent is high enough). Acting like a bloodsucking master thief is still cool. Fighting though was always bad and is still bad. But it makes me feel like a superstrong vampire, so it has that going for it.

 

[Lacrymas]

Tim just did some programming on Bloodlines. He was busy for most of it working on ToEE. And as for Timmy, well, https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...g-dumping-ground.90469/page-1639#post-4085949

I just wanted to use him to make a point. When you yourself are a minority, that is life, when you aren't, it's a political agenda of the left.

 

[anvi]

Not convinced Bloodlines was good, or even above average. The first one was ok though.

Also not convinced anyone over 13 would even buy a Vampire game. It would be mostly Twilight fans disappointed it isn't an emo romance, or those South Park kids wanting to drink cranberry and pretend it is blood, per se.

 

[fantadomat]

Not convinced Bloodlines was good, or even above average. The first one was ok though.

You are really dumb piece of shit!

 

[Roguey]

I just wanted to use him to make a point. When you yourself are a minority, that is life, when you aren't, it's a political agenda of the left.

I have certain aspects that would exclude me from the majority. Though when I mentioned Bloodlines's liberal slant, I really wasn't so much as referring to the handful of gays and plethora of heterosexual-male-appealing lesbians and more like the Bush admin crack and stuff like

Last year Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds bought a sport utility vehicle. Three months later there were two seperate incidences of hit-and-runs by an unidentified SUV in his area. Is Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds to blame? Can you afford to take that chance? Can your children? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, a candidate that has never committed vehicular homicide. Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds has never publicly stated his opinion on child pornography. Is it because he is hiding something? Would you want a child pornographer voting on this nation's laws? Would you trust your children's future to someone like that? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, the candidate that is comitted to locking up child pornographers. Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds recently sued Senator Robert Thorne for accusing Redmonds of being a murderous child pornographer. But Redmonds had previously said he was against clogging up courts with frivolous law suits. Wouldn't this make him a hypocrite? Would you want a hypocrite as your next congressman? Would you want your children become hypocrites? Vote Republican Senator Robert Thorne, a candidate not accused of being a murderous child pornographer.

 

[anvi]

Not convinced Bloodlines was good, or even above average. The first one was ok though.

You are really dumb piece of shit!

You forgot to say per se.

 

[fantadomat]

Not convinced Bloodlines was good, or even above average. The first one was ok though.

You are really dumb piece of shit!

You forgot to say per se.

I see that Infinitron removed your well deserved shitty tags. Did you clean his dick well?

 

[anvi]

Who says it was him? And how is the cranberry juice Vampir?

 

[Big Wrangle]

They prefer Sprite Cranberry nowadays.

 

[fantadomat]

Who says it was him? And how is the cranberry juice Vampir?

Because there were two mods when it was removed,Infinitron and Crispy . I am not sure if Crispy have the power,so the most obvious choice is the jew. Imagine being that butthurt so you will pay money to random guy to remove your tags .

 

[anvi]

Oh I'm serious. My name is Fandomat Vampir, I'm from Bulgaria and have a dark hooded avatar. Dark, like the depressing loneliness of my soul, per se.

 

[fantadomat]

Oh I'm serious. My name is Fandomat Vampir, I'm from Bulgaria and have a dark hooded avatar. Dark, like the depressing loneliness of my soul, per se.

A face well deserving your tags from the past.

 

[anvi]

Apparently the shitty mod is no longer a mod.

 

[glass blackbird]

I really don't know how much more progressive and woke they can become. I can't think of one thing from mainstream SJWism that is missing in WoD. Gays, lesbians and those filthy bisexuals - check, trannies - check, polyamory - check, stronk womyn - check, racial minorities - check, danger hair - check. Soooooo???

haven't there been gay vampires since forever in wod though?

 

[Life of the Party]

Clan Brujah have always Embraced from the ranks of those sympathetic to counterculture and revolution. They seek out allies who question normative ideas, and recognizing the fire of the oppressed, they gravitate toward the underdog.

Common perception place punks, gang-members, maladjusted immigrants rejected by the society that should protect them, and placard-carrying and Molotov wielding rioters among the Brujah. While the clan definitely includes substantial numbers of vocal and visible outsiders, their desire for rebellion reaches as deep as the fraudster ripping off his own company, the lawyer representing the poor pro bono, the neo-Nazi claiming to be “alt-right,” and the basement-dweller downloading thousands of movies illegally for redistribution on streaming sites. Fledglings Embraced to fight and protest are commonly known as rabble.

The Brujah can be passionate fighters but also critical thinkers; the clan activists are often very different from the clan theorists. On many occasions, the latter are Embraced from former gender studies or sociology students, those who have survived near-death experiences, and people who have in other ways suffered and endured great personal loss. The philosophical Brujah, known as Hellenes, believe the best method of dismantling the establishment is to understand the social and cultural systems that allow it to exist in the first place.

 

[Big Wrangle]

the basement-dweller downloading thousands of movies illegally for redistribution on streaming sites.

Cool story but are they using a VPN?

 

[Cael]

Clan Brujah have always Embraced from the ranks of those sympathetic to counterculture and revolution. They seek out allies who question normative ideas, and recognizing the fire of the oppressed, they gravitate toward the underdog.

Common perception place punks, gang-members, maladjusted immigrants rejected by the society that should protect them, and placard-carrying and Molotov wielding rioters among the Brujah. While the clan definitely includes substantial numbers of vocal and visible outsiders, their desire for rebellion reaches as deep as the fraudster ripping off his own company, the lawyer representing the poor pro bono, the neo-Nazi claiming to be “alt-right,” and the basement-dweller downloading thousands of movies illegally for redistribution on streaming sites. Fledglings Embraced to fight and protest are commonly known as rabble.

The Brujah can be passionate fighters but also critical thinkers; the clan activists are often very different from the clan theorists. On many occasions, the latter are Embraced from former gender studies or sociology students, those who have survived near-death experiences, and people who have in other ways suffered and endured great personal loss. The philosophical Brujah, known as Hellenes, believe the best method of dismantling the establishment is to understand the social and cultural systems that allow it to exist in the first place.

So, they turned the warrior-philosopher clan into antifa. Good one, white bitches!

 

[agentorange]

I really don't know how much more progressive and woke they can become. I can't think of one thing from mainstream SJWism that is missing in WoD. Gays, lesbians and those filthy bisexuals - check, trannies - check, polyamory - check, stronk womyn - check, racial minorities - check, danger hair - check. Soooooo???

Games have by and large always been made by liberals, and none of the things you listed are new to the medium as a whole and certainly not new to WoD, but what changed with the advent of SJWism is how all of these things are presented. Like Roguey said, it's all about the tone.

In VTMB you had gays and bisexual slut vampires, bondage dominatrix clubs, commie anarchist vampires and so on. But was the game trying to bludgeon you with some point or commentary through this stuff? Were they using these things as a means for lecturing the player? No, they were just elements of a dark and seedy world.

There's also the fact that the counter-culture, punk tone of stuff like WoD used to actually be, you know, counter-cultural. It was kind of an edgy, fringe thing that was looked down on by the mainstream normies, and attractive by virtue of that. But now all this stuff is perfectly mainstream, it's lost its edge. You can go out in public and see people who look like a nosferatu that just climbed out of a sewer, and they're probably going to lecture you about being a bigot.

 

[Vincente]

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[Cael]

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Meet with hot single Codexers in your area.

They're all single, but none of them hot.

Crispy would like a word with you...

 

[Yosharian]

, they were just elements of a dark and seedy world.

Nowadays a dark and seedy world is just fuel to accuse the developers of being misogynists.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Things VtMB was about:

-heavy metal

There was 0 heavy metal in Bloodlines.

 

[Yosharian]

Things VtMB was about:

-heavy metal

There was 0 heavy metal in Bloodlines.

Industrial metal, then. Whatever.