KickStarter Vampire Syndicate: Gangs of MoonFall

[Jrpgfan]

One possible art style. Probably way too early at this point to even release any test material since it's barely in Alpha. Don't want to get people's hopes up prematurely.

But....

Wasn't expecting those graphics, judging by your previous games.

Did you hire an artist or something?

 

[Nortar]

One possible art style. Probably way too early at this point to even release any test material since it's barely in Alpha. Don't want to get people's hopes up prematurely.

But....

This is a high quality troll picture. I really thought there's a dirt speck on my screen.

 

[Tyranicon]

Any gameplay videos? There is disciplines like Thaumaturgy in this game?

Probably going to be a while before videos come out, still very early in dev. There will be vampire abilities, both for social and combat. They're not yet fully fleshed out, but will include genre staples such as mind control, blood draining, etc.

Since the player starts out as a human familiar, vampirism is something to be earned. The game will have classes, and I'm thinking off adding the vampire class tree as a (very strong) mid/endgame subclass.

Thanks for the info anyway. Is there anything you can say about how you plan the gameplay to work or what superpowers are likely to be available?

For vampire stuff, see above. General gameplay loop will actually be somewhat similar to Battle Brothers, surprisingly. You're in a crime syndicate, you have a crew, you go around doing jobs and pulling off crime things to earn money and respect. There'll be a lot of story but it's mostly avoidable if you just want to freeroam in a dark, cyberpunk city.

Also I will probably have premade "story companions" and randomized, expendable companions.

Wasn't expecting those graphics, judging by your previous games.

Did you hire an artist or something?

Yup, dunno if I mentioned it, but I got a 3D artist onboard. Most of what we're using right now are just premade assets though.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Vampire Gangs of MoonFall is an old-school cRPG set amidst the vampire-dominated crime syndicates of a cyberpunk city. As a Familiar of one of the ancient vampire lineages, you have been tasked by your undead masters to expand their criminal empire.

If you play your cards right, that criminal empire may one day be yours; along with eternal youth and power beyond the imagining of mere humans.


Old-school cRPG

Vampires Gangs is inspired by legendary cRPGs, but also seeks to add new features to the formula.

Traditional Features:

• Nuanced character creation
• Turn-based combat
• Classes
• Skill checks
• Choice and Consequence
• Hand-created isometric maps
• Sprawling urban overworld
• Limited VO, lots of text

A few questions:

• Is it going to be party-based? I know you spoke about BB but just to be sure. If so, any expected party size? And how many characters in battle?
• Different classes of vampires or some characters could not be vampires?
• What about the AP (Action Points) system? 1 or 2 actions system or monocled real AP pool system?
• Hand-crafted map is nice, what about combat encounters? I can smell the procedurally gen. thing but how about crafting 20/30/50? encounters or at least starting combat positions with squishy/ranged enemies being restricted to some safe positions?
• Quest design, how complex will it be? Fetch BB quests or Prelude to Darkness deep quest level with multiple solutions?

 

[lightbane]

There'll be a lot of story but it's mostly avoidable if you just want to freeroam in a dark, cyberpunk city.

Will there be implants? Would having too many implants impact your ability to do magic/vampirism stuff and viceversa? Or can you freely become a mostly-cybernetic cyborg that also drinks blood for maximum metal?
Unless it's an odd case of a cyberpunk game with no cybernetics.

 

[Tyranicon]

A few questions:

• Is it going to be party-based? I know you spoke about BB but just to be sure. If so, any expected party size? And how many characters in battle?
• Different classes of vampires or some characters could not be vampires?
• What about the AP (Action Points) system? 1 or 2 actions system or monocled real AP pool system?
• Hand-crafted map is nice, what about combat encounters? I can smell the procedurally gen. thing but how about crafting 20/30/50? encounters or at least starting combat positions with squishy/ranged enemies being restricted to some safe positions?
• Quest design, how complex will it be? Fetch BB quests or Prelude to Darkness deep quest level with multiple solutions?

A lot of Vampire Gangs is going to be like Battle Brothel, but there will be changes.

- Yup, party-based. Don't know how big the companion pool will get or limits, but battle party size will be at least 5, maybe 6.
- Vampires will have different lineage/faction abilities. Players can choose to pursue vampirism or not. Too many augments/body mods will limit you from being a vampire.
- Am thinking of switching to AP system from previous combat style. Will have to experiment with.
- I don't do "real" proc gen. Story encounters will be hand crafted (although it's not something I'm great at). Freeroam battles will be chosen from a pool of location/mission relevant enemies x random battle map.
- Quests are something that is weaker in my games due to necessity (good quests require a lot of time). I had something like 40+ quests in BB (ugh, too much work). If I lower the amount to around 10 big ones, then I can increase their quality.

Will there be implants? Would having too many implants impact your ability to do magic/vampirism stuff and viceversa? Or can you freely become a mostly-cybernetic cyborg that also drinks blood for maximum metal?
Unless it's an odd case of a cyberpunk game with no cybernetics.

Yes to implants. They don't interfere with magic/vampire powers (some will enhance them), but vampires will look down on you. Going past a certain amount of body mods (Over Threshold) may disqualify the player from being promoted to vampire.

 

[Rahdulan]

One possible art style. Probably way too early at this point to even release any test material since it's barely in Alpha. Don't want to get people's hopes up prematurely.

But....

That angle has potential to it. That's all I'm saying.

 

[santino27]

I think the new art looks great. Kudos to your artist, and I hope it proves easy to implement in game.

 

[Tao]

It looks fantastic. So much right in just one image.

At last we will get a decent vampire rpg after all this time.

 

[Herumor]

I know you've already talked about too much cybernetics cutting you off from becoming a vampire, but can you tell us more what you have in mind for the cybernetics themselves?

Will they be mostly augments that increase your skills and such or will we have outright limb / organ / eyes replacements that change how the PC looks like?

 

[Tyranicon]

I know you've already talked about too much cybernetics cutting you off from becoming a vampire, but can you tell us more what you have in mind for the cybernetics themselves?

Will they be mostly augments that increase your skills and such or will we have outright limb / organ / eyes replacements that change how the PC looks like?

So in my previous games, augments either gave you a unique permanent buff or a combat skill, and it'll probably be the same here too. I'm also trying to cut down on the amount of trash items in my game and replace them with well thought out version. Other than that I haven't gotten too in detail with these yet.

As for PC customization, the engine really hamstrings me into how much visual customization I can allow. All I can say for now is there may be some visual customization, but we'll have to see.

 

[Sykar]

Speedbooster like in that new Cyberpunk Edgerunner series would be cool. You become inhumanely fast, but overuse leads to death.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I know you've already talked about too much cybernetics cutting you off from becoming a vampire, but can you tell us more what you have in mind for the cybernetics themselves?

Will they be mostly augments that increase your skills and such or will we have outright limb / organ / eyes replacements that change how the PC looks like?

So in my previous games, augments either gave you a unique permanent buff or a combat skill, and it'll probably be the same here too. I'm also trying to cut down on the amount of trash items in my game and replace them with well thought out version. Other than that I haven't gotten too in detail with these yet.

As for PC customization, the engine really hamstrings me into how much visual customization I can allow. All I can say for now is there may be some visual customization, but we'll have to see.

Just have a barbarian option too.

 

[RaggleFraggle]

Tyranicon one of the descriptions says that there will be multiple kinds of vampire with different powers and methods of turning. Is there anything you can share about that? Will there be allegiance missions where you have to perform a different kind of black magic ritual to join a vampire clique or something?

 

[Tyranicon]

Tyranicon one of the descriptions says that there will be multiple kinds of vampire with different powers and methods of turning. Is there anything you can share about that? Will there be allegiance missions where you have to perform a different kind of black magic ritual to join a vampire clique or something?

Yup, each of the four planned vampire lineages are very different, the only similarity being that they descend from the original vampiric curse. They each run one of the larger crime syndicates in city, and vampires control the criminal underworld.

The player starts off as a newly promoted familiar in one of these crime syndicates/vampire lineages. If you progress up the hierarchy by doing faction missions, you might eventually get promoted or "made" by being offered vampirism. The ritual for this is different from lineage to lineage.

 

[Pink Eye]

One possible art style. Probably way too early at this point to even release any test material since it's barely in Alpha. Don't want to get people's hopes up prematurely.

But....

This looks good. Doesn't look like a porn game at all; though those 3D models are very similar to the 3D porn videos you'd see on xnxx and those 3D porn comics.

 

[RaggleFraggle]

though those 3D models are very similar to the 3D porn videos you'd see on xnxx and those 3D porn comics.

That's probably because they all use Poser.

 

[Tyranicon]

One possible art style. Probably way too early at this point to even release any test material since it's barely in Alpha. Don't want to get people's hopes up prematurely.

But....

This looks good. Doesn't look like a porn game at all; though those 3D models are very similar to the 3D porn videos you'd see on xnxx and those 3D porn comics.

though those 3D models are very similar to the 3D porn videos you'd see on xnxx and those 3D porn comics.

That's probably because they all use Poser.

Models are made in Daz3D, which is the same rendering software used by a lot of other sex games. It is somewhat infamous for having high uncanny valley aesthetics.

 

[BanEvader]

The fugly characters crawled straight outta daz 3d deranged clone factory.

You're not wrong there. We're running them through some other software to remove the fuglyness, to where they're almost presentable. Not quite there yet, but I think we're making strides.

Spoiler

Oh look WoD clone...

I mean Paradox is taking their sweet time with VtMB 2 and someone has to take advantage of all that marketing.

Yeah just steal and be derivative of the same old 30 year old emo goth shit instead of innovating and creating something unique. That formula rarely works out for companies that do it.

Who wrote the setting? Are they a professional writer or are they some fanfic writer that has no clue on how to write a unique setting? Do you even have a professional writer(s)?

Don't think I'm being harsh with you because I enjoy it. I don't. I want you to succeed with your game and to stand on your own merits.

There it is.
The most pathetic post I've seen in my 2 decades of browsing the internet. Pure, unadulterated seethe.
Admit it James ol' boy, you were fucking JELLY of OP. ABSOLUTELY JELLY.
I'm actually lmaoing right now.
Just incredible.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Do you have any of the porn spoilers? Are they fully animated?

 

[Dadd]

Looks good though the lighting is a little excessive.

 

[Tyranicon]

Do you have any of the porn spoilers? Are they fully animated?

So the porn in my previous game was... unorthodox. It was animated pixel art with text.

I think for this game, the meat will be 3d renders. It will probably be a mix of static images and animated scenes, although I wouldn't expect the production value of someone who actually has a lot of money to throw at gamedev.

There will also probably be anime CGs, if you're into that kind of thing.

Like with my last game, sex isn't the main draw.

 

[Sykar]

Can you ignore the sex stuff altogether?

 

[JamesDixon]

There it is.

I thought you quit Codex. Why are you such a liar? Don't bother replying since you are now on the retard list.

 

[BanEvader]