Unofficial Arcanum Patch (Original Thread)

[Antagonist]

I'd like to pose a question for the seasoned Arcanum players here: I am currently playing Arcanum for the first time with the latest official and unofficial patch and my character currently resides in Black Root. There I encountered a NPC named Herhemer Oggdoddler who, according to my understanding of the dialogue, offers expert training for a modest fee. My problem is that when I ask him for training no appropriate dialogue choices appear. I can only go back to more general questions or end the conversation, but not start the training. Is anyone here familiar with this?

 

[killerschlumpf]

Hör ihm einfach zu was er über den Krieg zu erzählen hat, also immer schön weiter,weiter,weiter etc. Snchließend bedankt er sich, dass du so aufmerksam warst und du solltest die Dialogsoptionen für Nahkampf, Ausweichen und Fallenerkennen(?) haben. Natürlich nur, wenn du die nötigen Punkte schon investiert hast und Lehrling bist.

 

[Zyrxil]

Racist! How can you assume someone speaks German, just because they live in Germany. You have to post in English so people can find stuff to mock.

 

[Antagonist]

Hör ihm einfach zu was er über den Krieg zu erzählen hat, also immer schön weiter,weiter,weiter etc. Snchließend bedankt er sich, dass du so aufmerksam warst und du solltest die Dialogsoptionen für Nahkampf, Ausweichen und Fallenerkennen(?) haben. Natürlich nur, wenn du die nötigen Punkte schon investiert hast und Lehrling bist.

Well, I actually did listen to his rambling about the war and even agreed that firearms are despicable weapons (raised his disposition towards me to 75). He offered to give me expert training but the corresponding options do not appear in dialogue although I have an apprentice level for melee. :-/ Is this a bug?

 

[Double Ogre]

I suppose you don't have enough skill to receive the expert training. You need 9 ranks to qualify. (Each CP gets you 4 ranks).

 

[Antagonist]

I suppose you don't have enough skill to receive the expert training. You need 9 ranks to qualify. (Each CP gets you 4 ranks).

That's probably it then as I invested only two character points into melee. I was just worried as the other trainers I met usually have some line that explains that you are not experienced enough.

 

[killerschlumpf]

Racist! How can you assume someone speaks German, just because they live in Germany. You have to post in English so people can find stuff to mock.

Oh, i can ... very easy.

I think he understood what i wrote, e.g. that he needs enough points in the skill he wants to become an expert. Vollhorst

 

[Antagonist]

Hör ihm einfach zu was er über den Krieg zu erzählen hat, also immer schön weiter,weiter,weiter etc. Snchließend bedankt er sich, dass du so aufmerksam warst und du solltest die Dialogsoptionen für Nahkampf, Ausweichen und Fallenerkennen(?) haben. Natürlich nur, wenn du die nötigen Punkte schon investiert hast und Lehrling bist.

Listening to him just what he has to talk about the war, that is always more beautiful, more, more, etc. Snchließend grateful he was that you were so carefully and you should check out the dialogue options for melee, dodging and case detection (?) Have. Of course, only if you have the necessary points have been invested and apprentice are.

 

[killerschlumpf]

Dank dir :D

 

[Lexx]

Dank dir :D

Thank you :D

Heh, couldn't resist...


So, no new patch version in the next time? I would find it great, if the resolution patch could come back again... I don't really like, that it isn't compatible with the newest version anymore.

 

[lordfrikk]

I would find it great, if the resolution patch could come back again... I don't really like, that it isn't compatible with the newest version anymore.

Oh, indeed. It would probably cause my mind to explode with joy, but well, it's just me

Anyway, does it mean there is no other person in the world who loves Arcanum AND has the knowledge required to create a hires patch for Arcanum other than Drog?

P.S.: I am no coder so I can't even imagine how hard/easy it is to do such thing.

 

[Chefe]

He'll be back. This has happened a few times before.

He'll release the latest patch with a few new updates, everyone will sing praises, then in a few months and several hundred posts later, he will once again quit, and continue the cycle.

You can check out of Arcanum anytime you like, but you can never leave!

 

[Double Ogre]

Anyway, does it mean there is no other person in the world who loves Arcanum AND has the knowledge required to create a hires patch for Arcanum other than Drog?

P.S.: I am no coder so I can't even imagine how hard/easy it is to do such thing.

Speaking of the high resolution patch. I WAS working on a new version, the one that would support any resolution (by making use of formulas) without any custom graphics. I started from scratch and documented every offset I changed. The thing is, Arcanum has a very complicated UI, and even though the mod is nowhere to be finished, I've already patched around 800 offsets. It's just a lot of work, and sometimes you also need to patch code in ASM, since the game was never supposed to have all these menus centered in higher resolutions. All of this takes a lot of time and is very frustrating. Perhaps I will pick it up later, but it'd be nice if I get a helping hand. I would share the documented offsets and the pre-patched file with a competent person.

He'll be back. This has happened a few times before.

He'll release the latest patch with a few new updates, everyone will sing praises, then in a few months and several hundred posts later, he will once again quit, and continue the cycle.

You can check out of Arcanum anytime you like, but you can never leave!

Yet after all of this, Arcanum is still what it always was, a place of possibility, a place of change. One thing is certain, and that is that nothing at all is ever certain in this place. Who's to say what the future holds for the land we call Arcanum?

 

[lordfrikk]

Anyway, does it mean there is no other person in the world who loves Arcanum AND has the knowledge required to create a hires patch for Arcanum other than Drog?

P.S.: I am no coder so I can't even imagine how hard/easy it is to do such thing.

new version

*orgasm* :D

It would be great if you continued, OgreOgre, but I can understand from your explanation it's tedious and boring job. What about getting your and Drog's heads together, wouldn't that be an option?

 

[Double Ogre]

I thought my nickname would be a pretty obvious indication at who I really am. I will be using this account for now. The main one will be used for official announcements and such, in case I participate in any more Arcanum related projects.

The above screenshot shows that it is indeed possible to make a proper high resolution patch (the one that just centers everything without adding anything custom that might not be liked by many people) for Arcanum, similar to the Fallout high resolution patch. It's just a lot of work, and I'm not too keen on continuing it right now all by myself. Being burned out on the game doesn't really help either.

If somebody with good knowledge of ASM wants to help, then they may feel free to PM either of my accounts, or just post in this thread.

 

[lordfrikk]

I see now, OgreOgre .)

Yes, the Fallout one is awesome indeed. Although having everything centered and perfect is really nice, main reason why I love those patches is I can see more of the screen, it really helps a lot.

Anyway, hopefully, you'll get back on track sometime in the future. Arcanum is 8 years old now... wow, and I'm still playing it.

 

[killerschlumpf]

All things centered is nice but it doesn't really matter if they're not. Like lordfrikk said, what matters is the better overview

 

[Periamin]

Greetings ladies and gentleman. I would wonder, when the resolution patch will be accessible. If at all will be. He thanks. Sorry for my perfect english :p

the fan Arcanum.

 

[lordfrikk]

Greetings ladies and gentleman. I would wonder, when the resolution patch will be accessible. If at all will be. He thanks. Sorry for my perfect english :p

the fan Arcanum.

As OgreOgre said 3 posts above , it is uncertain as of now when and IF the patch will be finished.

 

[Periamin]

Ugh forgive, I overlooked this. I hope however that he will finish it. The resolution 800x600 irritates me.

 

[lordfrikk]

Periamin, I managed to run and play Arcanum with last patch version and last 1024x768 resolution enabler by Drog without any glitches or bugs.

 

[Double Ogre]

I don't recommend it. The last 1024x768 patch executable is missing the latest engine fixes. There will be problems, e.g. some prototypes will get broken.

 

[lordfrikk]

Can you explain to a layman such as me what do you mean by "prototypes will get broken"? :>

 

[Double Ogre]

Some critters will have wrong stats.

 

[Periamin]

Any incorrect with quest etc. only some critters? Which critters? Is it serious bug or nothing big deal?