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[Visperas]

Hold tab.

Yeah, I meant enemies. I know about Tab. Actually, what's the difference between Tab and Z. And what's obscuration alpha or something like that?

 

[Thonius]

Its show enemies behind stuff. I cranked it up.

 

[DeN DarK]

The game does not open up until after Junkyard. There is little you can do until then in terms of free exploration.

Eh - not a ton of sidequests early. Main quest is pretty much it (save for short fetch quests a la Jonas' watch). I've seen persuasion and Intim. checks for quests, so pick whatever.
And yeah, hacking is good for loot and some quests. I'm thinking about *not* using it next time just because it seems so necessary, but man, I don't want to miss out on oddities. I'll cross that bridge next playthrough.

Thanks for answers ) Game is amazing and this is my first run. I try to be everywere.
Currently I level 7 (preJunkyard quests) - and struggling with Lunatics. Gunner + Freezer + Brawler is hard combo. I killed first trio near Omega. But can't kill second one. Is it mean that my char is too weak or it is challenge for later levels? What about Siphoners and Burrowers?

Second question - Assault Rifles, Metal Armor and etc need str 6. Currently I play with Psi user with Pistols + Crafting. Str 4 Con 4 Ag 5 Will Int Per 7.
Do I need to rise STR or it is too low anyway and it will be too slow and it will be better to spent stat points on Will?

Third question - Can I save Cliff without Doctor? If I go down that trap door and return - will he bleed to death if I don't have that fear? Is this feat needed gamewise?

 

[DeN DarK]

I don't think you'll need all 3 psi spell schools for a gun character. I'd suggest specializing in just one (thought control would probably benefit you the most), with a splash in psychokinesis for the cheesy forcefield (requires 25) and metathermics (35 for cryostasis). The remaining points you can then invest into electronics, tailoring and mechanics.

edit: If you choose thought control, then you need 10 will for the locus feat. Combine that with guns, and you've got one nasty character.

I don't think it is very gun character. More like Psi a.t.m. Because I can't use Assault Rifles with low str.
But I think I concentrate on one school of PSI. Kinesis + Force user make very strong combo. It seems that only Thought Control have hi-level feat for it (Locus). But offensive abilities on first glance is better on Kinesys + Thermics (more dmg it seems + stun on some abilities).

 

[hell bovine]

I don't think you'll need all 3 psi spell schools for a gun character. I'd suggest specializing in just one (thought control would probably benefit you the most), with a splash in psychokinesis for the cheesy forcefield (requires 25) and metathermics (35 for cryostasis). The remaining points you can then invest into electronics, tailoring and mechanics.

edit: If you choose thought control, then you need 10 will for the locus feat. Combine that with guns, and you've got one nasty character.

I don't think it is very gun character. More like Psi a.t.m. Because I can't use Assault Rifles with low str.
But I think I concentrate on one school of PSI. Kinesis + Force user make very strong combo. It seems that only Thought Control have hi-level feat for it (Locus). But offensive abilities on first glance is better on Kinesys + Thermics (more dmg it seems + stun on some abilities).

Not every gun has a strength requirement. One reason to keep raising guns would be to get the execute feat, considering you can stun enemies with psi abilities.

 

[Sykar]

Only two requirments afaik:

Sniper Rifles -> 5 ST
Assault Rfiles -> 7 ST

Correct me if I am ignorant about any other requirement.

 

[roshan]

So I've been playing a pistol character (no psi) - and I'm wondering - what's the point of a low STR pistol build? The damage is shit, your character dies really quickly, and on top of that pistols take tons of AP to fire. What's the logic here?

 

[toro]

Another question:
How game flow from the beggining. In what order better to visit places? Where to go after clearing Omega station but before moving to next main quest?

My instinct is to say ditch persuasion - but don't. Maybe drop Con to 3 to buff Will. I think you're fine without stealth though.
I would shy away against being a jack of all trades though. I'm through Rail Crossing and while hacking is good for loot, it hasn't been super helpful in finishing quests. Basically - with hacking there's always a key or something out there, so it might be less necessary than lockpicking for quest purposes.

Cannot drop lockpicking or hacking. My precious loot cannot be forsaken. Persuasion - already dropped. It seems quest wise Intimidation better used. Am i wrong?

Nope. You are right.

 

[toro]

Does armor sloping work with tactical vests that use psi beetle carapace? or is there other way to reduce armor penality? am playing on hard as stealth crafter/psi but 35% armor penality really cramps my style :/

Nope. Riot gear, boots and the metal armors.

Edit: But you have to craft those armors if you want the bonus.

Edit2: Armor sloping applies to penalties originating from metal plates. Can you use metal plates with vests?

 

[toro]

So, between Evasion and Shield Emitters, which is the better choice for ranged protection?

Why would you not use shield emitters?

High frequency shield emitters are cool but most advanced melee weapons simply bypass the shield.

So, the question is: Is there any point in crafting low frequency shields?

 

[toro]

My monster starts to take shape ))

448 critical damage and that weapon was crafted from 63 quality sniper frame. I cannot imagine what I will do with a higher quality frame

Some advice for gunners: always put the scope on the ranged weapons. It seems precision has a huge impact - event at 10%. I cannot explain why but now I'm happy.

 

[cherry blossom]

How do change the height of walls to be able to see what's against them? I think this was discussed at somepoint but I don't remember if it was finally implemented.

I made the suggestion with gifs to demonstrate it but Styg didn't find it necessary.

Styg, my offer still stands. If you ever reconsider the feature, I'll happily rework the graphics.

 

[countrydoctor]

Will i reach the point when i absolutely need to choose a faction? Kinda afraid of doing things in Core City as they might potentially lock me from some factions or something.

 

[Kem0sabe]

So finished the gauntlet, I forgot about all the keys I had so I was fighting every room instead of just taking the shortcuts, much easier.

For the difficulty, I think the gauntlet and the arena don't give enough exp. You get 5 exp for finishing each, I think you should get one per fight in the arena.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Started a 10 con 10 will full psi char. Took Survival instinct and psychosis. 50% crit chance LOLZ

 

[Jarpie]

Can someone recommend me a good crossbow+melee build? I imagine most of the crafting skills are must for it.

 

[eXalted]

How often do merchant requests reset?

I'm at level 5 and I am encumbered with all kind of crap.

Do you collect everything in the beginning (and later)?

Where do you sell all the stuff that you don't need, do you leave it in a locker somewhere (your room for example) for later?

 

[bloodlover]

I had the luck of being gifted this game and will start to play it very soon. I am scrolling the threads while trying to avoid spoilers and I notice most people go for stealth and ranged combat. Is melee bad or boring to play? Since the game is combat heavy I assume these could be probable reasons.

I was thinking of making some kind of brute warrior and try to see how it works but the lack of people playing this way seems strange.

 

[Zdzisiu]

I had the luck of being gifted this game and will start to play it very soon. I am scrolling the threads while trying to avoid spoilers and I notice most people go for stealth and ranged combat. Is melee bad or boring to play? Since the game is combat heavy I assume these could be probable reasons.

I was thinking of making some kind of brute warrior and try to see how it works but the lack of people playing this way seems strange.

Melee is 100% viable and fun. If you want to go brute, just go for lots of strenght, constitution and use the most badass hammers and the heaviest of armours. At least myself and Blaine can attest to the fact that such a build can finish the game without too much of a problem, and becomes a walking machine of doom later on.

People go ranged because there is a lot of cool guns to use, and for many people guns are the default choice for the first character in any cRPG that has them.

 

[Why.jpeg]

I'm running a bog standard guns and armor build but I'm looking longingly at psi with regrets. I'm not that deep in so is it worth it re-rolling and if so any suggestions for full psi?

 

[Ellef]

I'm running a bog standard guns and armor build but I'm looking longingly at psi with regrets. I'm not that deep in so is it worth it re-rolling and if so any suggestions for full psi?

Wait for your next playthrough with Psi. I'm feeling the lure after having Psi enemies tear me a new one, but there's no rush.

This is assuming your current build is effective.

 

[Why.jpeg]

This is assuming your current build is effective.

Too early to say l, I'm still capping rathounds but I imagine I'll be fine since its such a vanilla build its hard to fuck up.

 

[roshan]

Guys - advice needed - I've currently got 3 strength, 3 willpower and 3 constitution, and at level 10. Dexterity 9, Perception 10, Intelligence 7. Doing a pistols build, no psi. Having some trouble now with the game, because it seems that pistols are really really gimped. They have no range, take retarded amounts of AP to fire, do really low damage, cannot burst - it's just fucked up. And I don't want to have to start over. But how do I salvage this character?

I've gotten aimed shot, expertise, gunslinger, recklessness, kneecap, rapid fire, sharpshooter.

I really wish I had gone with STR 6, because it's a requirement for what seems to be the best pistol perk - steadfast aim, since there seems to be no advantage to pistols except the critical chance provided by this perk. How do I increase my STR? I also need to pump DEX to lower my AP cost.

 

[meeb93]

My current stealth character is just awful, but I can get through most of the game with a lot of resetting, cheesing, etc...

Thinking of my next character build. I've noticed a lot of missions basically require stealth (a Junkyard side mission comes to mind) but I can manage to give that up.

My thinking is a heavy psi user, or an AR user.

AR user:

9 STR/3 DEX/3 AGI/6 CON/10 PER/3 Will/6 INT.

Put 1 point into CON at level 4 for certain feats. Put 1 point in INT at level 8 for the crafting feats.
Maybe change it so that I have higher CON a bit earlier, and put 1 point in STR at level 8.

Skill points: Throw(max), Guns(max), Electronics(max), Mechanics(max), Tailoring(max), Chem(max), Lock/Hack(max). I don't think I need to bother with Biology.


Heavy Psi:

9 STR/3 DEX/3 AGI/6 CON/3 PER/10 WILL/6 INT.

Same story as above. Add to CON and Int initially for the feats. Actually I think I can get away with keeping INT at 6 since the armor based crafting feat is available at 6 int.

Skill points: Metathermics/Psychokinesis (max), Melee(max), Lock/Hack(max), Mechanics(max), Bio(15), Tailoring(max), Electronics(high investment).

Skill points hard to balance here. I don't really think I can do without lockpicking and hacking. Or at least not lockpicking. 15 bio for crafting my own psiboosters, though not sure how worth it that is. Also seems a shame to not capitalize on social stats with such high will.


Thoughts on either of these builds?

 

[Ellef]

Guys - advice needed - I've currently got 3 strength, 3 willpower and 3 constitution, and at level 10. Dexterity 9, Perception 10, Intelligence 7. Doing a pistols build, no psi. Having some trouble now with the game, because it seems that pistols are really really gimped. They have no range, take retarded amounts of AP to fire, do really low damage, cannot burst - it's just fucked up. And I don't want to have to start over. But how do I salvage this character?

I've gotten aimed shot, expertise, gunslinger, recklessness, kneecap, rapid fire, sharpshooter.

I really wish I had gone with STR 6, because it's a requirement for what seems to be the best pistol perk - steadfast aim, since there seems to be no advantage to pistols except the critical chance provided by this perk. How do I increase my STR? I also need to pump DEX to lower my AP cost.

You can see all the feats at char creation, plan carefully! You won't get permanent 6 str for a long time with this build.