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Well played, sir.
Dragon Age is "Baldur's Gate 2 made 3D, and simplified for wider audiences."
Project Eternity is more "Infinity Engine style 2D game with an original fantasy universe."
All you can really say is they are both inspired by older titles and that they are both party-based RPGs.
Brother None I think you're misinterpeting Toxic's approach here. He doesn't think PE will be like DA:O because they both strive to be IE successors. He thinks PE will be like DA:O, directly.
Just like TB pointed out in the interview, 2d is a way to make games on the cheap side
Or it's an aesthetic choice. Which it is in this case.
Maybe you're right and it's a mistake, but I don't really think it has that negative an impact. Wasteland 2 has an essentially fixed camera too so it's not like the gameplay limitations between the two are that far apart.
Obsidian did go for that Infinity Engine crowd hard and going 2D is a part of that. It could be a marketing thing. Kickstarter still has to be marketable, just in different ways. I don't think 2D versus 3D as a basic decision really is what PE will stand or fall on, though.
Well played, sir.
Eh, yeah, sure. An aesthetic choice which conveniently saves them a bunch of $$$ on their DA:O spin-off.
W2 has tactical turn-based combat. There's no gameplay-related comparison you can make between these two games that won't sound retarded.
When you go realtime, you can either have shitty combat and gameplay in 2d or awesome combat and gameplay in 3d. Just look at combat in BG, the game that supposedly inspired both PE and DA:O. Combat was an atrocious grind, saved only by the switch to full 3d in DA:O.
And they still have to make, model, and texture the art assets in 3D before implementing them in 2D and post-producing them.
So, where does the big money saving come in?
That's odd. I mean, for all we know they have identical inventory interfaces. Surely the camera comparison makes some sense.
I still pledged, but not a lot, because "Infinity Engine born again! By JE Sawyer!" doesn't appeal to me *that* much. I couldn't stand the Infinity Engine and disagree a lot on design notions with Sawyer.
But eh, it's personal preference. People still want it! That said, it sounds like the combat system you're objecting to, not so much 2D or 3D.
We've reached an incredible new level of Codex edginess - you can't even say that a good game belongs to the same genre as a bad game.
Because that's like a slippery slope and before you know it you've got gay elf romances and health regeneration.
Worst discussion I've ever seen.
Worst discussion I've ever seen.
Every time I point out the obvious reasons why a game will suck people argue. Then it comes out and sucks. Do I get an apology? Never.
Joined: Oct 20, 2012
Did Toxic turn into a dumbfuck overnight? I don't remember him being this stupid.
Yes people you haven't met before are all new to the internet. Good thinking.Every time I point out the obvious reasons why a game will suck people argue. Then it comes out and sucks. Do I get an apology? Never.
Joined: Oct 20, 2012
Whose alt is this
Worst discussion I've ever seen.
I'm sure at some point developers that people take seriously will be talking about "classics like Oblivion". And whatever teenager replaces Infinitron by then will defend them
A cheap remake of one of Codex's games of the year? It'd be praised here too!Worst discussion I've ever seen.
I'm sure at some point developers that people take seriously will be talking about "classics like Oblivion". And whatever teenager replaces Infinitron by then will defend them
What bugs me is the outright dismissal of any rational or sane comment that simply doesn't fit in with their preconception. If MCA came out on PAX and said, word for word, that PE was nothing but a cheap DA:O remake, their minds would probably still find a way to block it out. They're just so caught up in the hype, they can't see the edge of the cliff.
A cheap remake of one of Codex's games of the year? It'd be praised here too!
It's reasonable to be suspicious in this day and age, but some of the speculation here is hyperbolic.
My favouritest shit gameDink Smallwood
Right, can't draw conclusions without playing the game first.
YOU can't. Your poor comprehension skills and lack of inside knowledge preclude you from doing so. Please explain to the class, in detail, all the ways PE is going to resemble DA, since you know how it's going to turn out already.
St. Toxic said:Dragon Age is to Baldur's Gate what Fallout 3 is to Ultima Underworld
Fuck that loser.