Top cRPG to be a cRPG veteran?

[ropetight]

btw, if you're interested about the Amiga game "Legion", here is some info:

https://www.mobygames.com/game/66301/legion/

and here, something more:

https://thecompany.pl/gra/Legion

Some screens look familiar, but nothing more than that.
I probably missed it back in the time, but I will have to try it if it has English version.
Especially since it is new genre - PREMIUM RPG!

1. Genre: PREMIUM RPG

 

[ColossusCimmerian]

I think I'll finally try Jagged Alliance 2. I liked Fallout Tactics a lot, lilura praised it since forever, the famous game reviewer from Balkan always derped about it, = must be great.

Yes, play it.

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[ColossusCimmerian]

You can play Jagged Alliance 2 vanilla with ddraw, yes it runs in modern Windows, people are so used to Bugtheda and modern computer gams that you need to install hundreds of mods... Like those people playing Fallout, but they only know "Fallout FIXT"

 

[Laz Sundays]

You can play Jagged Alliance 2 vanilla with ddraw, yes it runs in modern Windows, people are so used to Bugtheda and modern computer gams that you need to install hundreds of mods... Like those people playing Fallout, but they only know "Fallout FIXT"

That's what I was thinking, I wanna see what it looks like originally first.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

 

[Lord_Potato]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

Or the nature of war?

 

[Lord_Potato]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

Or the nature of war?

This one's easy.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

Easy, change is the nature of man.

 

[Lord_Potato]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

Easy, change is the nature of man.

Being chopped in half with a two-hander also changes the nature of man.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

Easy, change is the nature of man.

Being chopped in half with a two-hander also changes the nature of man.

Yes but don't try it at home, there's only so much adhesive/duct tape you can buy to undo it.

 

[CryptRat]

You're a cRPG veteran when you stopped giving a shit about what other people like and play whatever the fuck you want.

 

[WhiteHumanMaleFighter]

Tim Cain in one of his yt videos spoke of how it's a foolish endeavor to try and play every single video game, or every single rpg-ish game, or even every single crpg. With how massive the game industry is now, dwarfing over other giants like the music or literature industries, there's an abundance of games that no single man could explore fully during his lifetime. If it's difficult to at first decide what your tastes are like, it's probably best to just pirate all the games on a best of list, like the Top X RPGs that codex has, and then give each one at least 4-5 hours of play and decide if it's worth finishing through it and if it's intrigued you enough. There are some exceptions, anyone who has not finished the greatest CRPG of all time: The Last Sovereign, is not qualified to discuss RPGs.

 

[Lord_Potato]

You're a cRPG veteran when you stopped giving a shit about what other people like and play whatever the fuck you want.

Hmmm, calling smb who only played Cat Quest 1&2 a cRPG veteran doesn't feel right

 

[ERYFKRAD]

You're a cRPG veteran when you stopped giving a shit about what other people like and play whatever the fuck you want.

Hmmm, calling smb who only played Cat Quest 1&2 a cRPG veteran doesn't feel right

CatRPG though

 

[TheKing01]

Why would you think to ask Codex, of all places?

Many of it's fifth-world inhabitants will name text-parser style games and games lacking a consistent framerate above 25.

I'll bite. Here's a list of games a not from pre-90's gamer could feasibly consume:

Planescape: Torment
Fallout 1 and 2
Ultima 5 and 6 (play the fan remakes on Dungeon Siege, anything before doesn't fit my own self-imposed guidelines)
Baldur's Gate 2 (not 1, it's objectively inferior, not going into subjective arguments about this)
Arcanum
Tex Murphy franchise (yes, most of them do constitute as RPGs, unless we're foregoing Mass Effect as an RPG as well)
Deus Ex franchise
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines (and Redemption, to a lesser extent)
NWN franchise (yes, 1 and 2, especially MotB)
Dead State (a case study on unfulfilled ambition)
Gothic franchise (this is as far as Euro-jank as I'm willing to go)
KOTOR franchise
Morrowind with OpenMW (emphasis on OMW)
Arx Fatalis
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

I'm sure there's many I've missed

 

[Krivol]

Tex Murphy franchise (yes, most of them do constitute as RPGs, unless we're foregoing Mass Effect as an RPG as well)

Could you elaborate? Are there char stats or anything? I always thought it was a point-and-click adventure with FMVs.

 

[Red Hexapus]

I think we should take a step back and answer some more fundamental questions before being able to answer OP's query. Questions such as, What is an RPG?

And what can change the nature of man?

Easy, change is the nature of man.

Being chopped in half with a two-hander also changes the nature of man.

 

[Falksi]

That list has to include one of Spiderweb's best efforts.

Even though there's now as much crap as there is quality from Vogel, playing only the big studio hitters doesn't qualify someone as a CRPG veteran in my book. For me, you have to have sampled some of the best indie titles too, and Escape From The Pit and Geneforge are probably the kings of the indies.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

I have never played a quality Vogel CRPG. The best one is arguably Geneforge but the writing in the first half dozen hours is so bland and boring that I could never stick with it long enough.

Interesting observation about Vogel, he doesn't own a monitor capable of higher resolutions than 720p. I can prove this.

 

[MerchantKing]

Obviously Skyrim as that was what I was paid to post.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

The reason Disco Elysium is not considered a classic by me is because it needs more time to "withstand the test of time". Having said that, it deserves the spot on a list of top RPGs.

Dude is a visual novel, choose-your-own-adventure, NOT an RPG. Even if "withstand the test of time" it will still be a visual novel similar to Ian Livingstone, Steve Jackson books.

I declare Disco Elysium as Point and click adventure with skill checks

Disco Elysium isn't a game, it's an experience. The best experience in all of gaming

 

[Agesilaus]

Thinking the other day... What are the top classic cRPGs? The top that everyone, no excuse, should play. The mandatory top list for someone to be considered a cRPG veteran.

Ultima 7, the geneforges, age of decadence, underrail. Once you complete those you can sit the CRPG exam and be admitted to the gaming bar.

 

[rikkles]

You can be a cRPG veteran of different eras. Playing Deathlord has nothing to do with playing BG3 and both are worth playing.
And as someone said above, you’re a veteran when you don’t give a shit what others think. Suprisingly maybe, I finished Deathlord (well I made Deathlord Relorded so I had to…) but haven’t reached Act II in BG3 yet. It’s just painful to me.

One highly underrated Wiz/BT style game is Dark Heart of Uukrul. Play the Apple 2 version, not the VGA one. That one is also for veteran players but pretty incredible.

 

[Fargus]

but haven’t reached Act II in BG3 yet

You and half of the playerbase