The New DOOM Thread (2016)

[CthuluIsSpy]

The guns in Doom2016 do sound weak imo.

It depends. For a Doom game, the shotgun is pretty crap, but the Heavy Assault Rifle and the Plasma rifle feel great. The HAR even feels and sounds better than the chaingun, especially if you use micro missiles.

A lot of the weapons' damage and features actually come from their mods, and I noticed that you seem to deal more damage with upgraded weapons than non-upgraded weapons.

 

[JDR13]

The best parts of the game was when you could freely explore and fight enemies along the way, that was Doom to me.

The problem is that there aren't enough areas like that in the last game. It looks like Doom Eternal will be more that style though.

 

[sullynathan]

The game is good. Reading codexers posts makes you think it's worse than it really is. It's not a high gun skill type game, but neither was the original.

I will say that there is more platforming that I was expecting, and it's not very good at times due to lack of air control and the "grab the ledge" mechanics that modern games have that don't allow you to get on a higher platform if you aren't facing the platform.

I haven't beaten the game nor fought a boss yet, but one thing I noticed about how the game handles keys is that so far, no key has led to more optional areas of the map like the original doom did. In the original, depending on map, you could get a yellow or red key before you got a blue key and then explore some area of the map to find secrets, weapons and etc. In the one, keys are sequential. You find the yellow key to then unlock the door for the blue key. Secrets are more separate.

3D Map sucks and is a bigger chore to use than the old 2D. Always resetting where you last left off when you leave.

 

[sullynathan]

Is it me, or is there a surprising lack of sound and music in the early levels in comparison to Eternal?

 

[ghardy]

Does anyone know if the source for this will (ever) be released, like with older id games?

 

[whydoibother]

Does anyone know if the source for this will (ever) be released, like with older id games?

The guy who wanted code released isn't there anymore, so probably not.

 

[soulburner]

Does anyone know if the source for this will (ever) be released, like with older id games?

The guy who wanted code released isn't there anymore, so probably not.

Unfortunately. John Carmack thought that after selling the company to Zenimax he still owned his code, but after releasing the sources to, if I recall correctly, Doom 3 BFG, he was quickly reminded by the legal team it isn't so. I bet it was a big contributing factor to his leaving id Software, aside all the more public reasons related to VR and Oculus.

 

[whydoibother]

I bet it was a big contributing factor to his leaving id Software, aside all the more public reasons related to VR and Oculus.

"I thought I owned the code" was his legal defence for bringing the VR lightning/reflections tech to Oculus, right? IIRC it was originally idSoft technology.

 

[soulburner]

Yeah, I don't remember the details, but not only did Zenimax lose the case against him he counter sued them afterwards for delaying payment for id.