Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[catfood]

I just dont want to push through darkmoor and varn.

But Darkmoor wants you. It yearns for you. Darkmoor is love, Darkmoor is (un)life.

honestly I always found varn worse

Those are the best dungeons in the game. Stop being a homosexual.

 

[DaveO]

I am so getting my ass handed to me playing Might & Magic merge mod as a Minotaur Ranger. I may have seriously underestimated how savage the game is solo...

 

[lukaszek]

I am so getting my ass handed to me playing Might & Magic merge mod as a Minotaur Ranger. I may have seriously underestimated how savage the game is solo...

it does balance enemies in weird way. For example when i started in mm6, ive compared that baa followers are MUCH stronger around castle ironfist

 

[Storyfag]

Just don't turn the enemy scaling on?

 

[lukaszek]

Just don't turn the enemy scaling on?

but its supposed to kick based on your level when you migrate between worlds, while im talking about fresh new character

 

[Gerrard]

Decided to give MM7 another spin after abandoning one playthrough long ago. I must be near the end because I have reached the part where the game just becomes silly and you're just holding attack while waiting for dragons to die.

And I have 10+ untrained levels.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Then don't waste your time and go straight to the Devil's Hive (if you haven't done so already) and then the underwater mission to finish the game. Kiilling Dragons is entirely optional. That goes for MM6, too.

 

[Covenant]

Honestly, if you've already played Arcomage in every tavern, you may as well just restart now and begin playing Arcomage all over again.

 

[Mauman]

Then don't waste your time and go straight to the Devil's Hive (if you haven't done so already) and then the underwater mission to finish the game. Kiilling Dragons is entirely optional. That goes for MM6, too.

I can't imagine NOT turning Eofol into a wasteland.

.....

Ok, MORE of a wasteland.

 

[Storyfag]

A pity they reduced the amount of Devil types for MM7. Xenofex should be a winged one.

 

[Gerrard]

Holy shit that underwater part and having to unequip all your gear was super cringe.

Most bullshit enemy of the game goes to Queens of the Dead who just instantly cast of Dragon Breath upon seeing you, doing several hundred points of damage, sometimes knocking out both casters, and having to cast Dispel Magic every 5 seconds to remove Pain Reflection.

By the way, are there supposed to be some force fields visible here and it's an issue with the hardware renderer, or are they always invisible?

Spoiler

Honestly, if you've already played Arcomage in every tavern, you may as well just restart now and begin playing Arcomage all over again.

I don't understand what some people see in this minigame, it's mostly RNG of what cards you get. I lost several times trying to destroy the opponent's tower, not getting any (good) attack cards for 10+ turns, and once again realizing I should've just went for building my own tower instead.

Now I feel like playing Heroes IV again.

 

[Average Manatee]

I have a deep philosophical question I've been ruminating on for too long. How does everyone distribute their horseshoes in MM6?

I have considered 3 sensible strategies:

1. Distribute them evenly across everyone. All characters gain equal amounts of skill points. This is "fair".
2. Give them all to the character you have that has the strongest bonuses (generally gonna be a light or dark master for MM6 unless you're doing something weird). Gives in theory the strongest overall party bonus (after all even 1 point in light is buffing everyone more than multiple points in most skills).
3. Give them all to the one character you have mastering most or all of the miscellaneous bullshit like merchant/identify/repair/disarm/perception. This helps avoid them falling behind. Arguably more "fair" in a way than #1 so they aren't left behind in combat.

I'm genuinely curious for some reason about how many people do each strategy or whether there's other logical ways to distribute them.

Yes I am autistic.

 

[Storyfag]

2. Give them all to the character you have that has the strongest bonuses (generally gonna be a light or dark master for MM6 unless you're doing something weird). Gives in theory the strongest overall party bonus (after all even 1 point in light is buffing everyone more than multiple points in most skills).

This is my typical choice. Dark Master, obviously.

But nowadays I'm only ever playing MMMerge. Still dumping all the horseshoes on the Dark Master

Very rarely I give a horseshoe or two to someone who's just missing those few points to another skill mastery level.

 

[cthscr]

Just don't turn the enemy scaling on?

but its supposed to kick based on your level when you migrate between worlds, while im talking about fresh new character

No, it makes low level monster stronger on any map load.

Ok, im gaming MMmerge mod hard and cleared out New Sorpigal and moved into Ironfist, but i have this wierd bug where i cant enter the guilds in town without crashing, and only the guilds, the rest is fine. Anyone had this error?

Not reproducible. Is savegame available?

 

[Luzur]

Just don't turn the enemy scaling on?

but its supposed to kick based on your level when you migrate between worlds, while im talking about fresh new character

No, it makes low level monster stronger on any map load.

Ok, im gaming MMmerge mod hard and cleared out New Sorpigal and moved into Ironfist, but i have this wierd bug where i cant enter the guilds in town without crashing, and only the guilds, the rest is fine. Anyone had this error?

Not reproducible. Is savegame available?

I kinda found the problem, if i go to a guild im not a member of and try to enter, game crashes, but if i become a member and enter, it works just fine.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

MM5:
Is there a way to get the treasure hidden inside walls, in the south-western part of the Necropolis Sewers?
Teleport and Etherealize do not work.
The "Where Are We" built-in map says it contains 220000 gold and a bunch of great Lev7 items.

 

[octavius]

I have a deep philosophical question I've been ruminating on for too long. How does everyone distribute their horseshoes in MM6?

I give them to whomever can have immidiate benefit (in the form of going from for example Expert to Master) from them. If several characters qualify the one with the most useful/important skill will be the lucky one.

 

[Kayato]

MM5:
Is there a way to get the treasure hidden inside walls, in the south-western part of the Necropolis Sewers?
Teleport and Etherealize do not work.
The "Where Are We" built-in map says it contains 220000 gold and a bunch of great Lev7 items.

Are you sure about the teleporter ban? I'm pretty sure I've always cleared dungeons 100% and so I think I've done that too. This should be a corridor of 3 spaces with lava and a chest. Have you tried to see if the wall is fake from the south? Maybe from the city above?

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Yes, tried everything: Teleport, Etherealize, Bash, and just try walking through walls, from all sides (except the west side obviously) I'm using the (floppy) GOG version Are you using the Mac version? DOS CD version?

 

[Kayato]

I launched the game and tried it, the teleportation spell works for me. I have the GOG version of WoX and launch the CD version

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Interesting. Maybe they fixed it for the CD version. Too bad I can't test it myself, I have both versions but my save game is for the GOG floppy but no save game to test the CD version with.
I have read that it does fix a tavern saving bug in MM4 Shangri La. The bug teleports you inside solid dirt in the floppy version

 

[Kayato]

Since you are using WhereAreWe check what it tells you about the sewers. There should be a window (I don't remember the name) that indicates the active spells on the party and the map features and you should see a "Teleport ban" entry with "true or false" to understand if they actually inserted different values between the floppy version and that CD.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

I did . It says: Teleport ban = true.

 

[Kayato]

We learned something new. Since this is obviously an oversight, you can use WhereAreWe's teleporter to fix it.

 

[Average Manatee]

I give them to whomever can have immidiate benefit (in the form of going from for example Expert to Master) from them. If several characters qualify the one with the most useful/important skill will be the lucky one.

Yeah rushing Water Magic is a pretty big deal.