Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[Nekot-The-Brave]

Was playing merge mod from MM6, and didn't realize what the "bolster enemies" option did until just now. I thought I was just playing the game wrong (which, I wasn't really) and things were just more tanky than I remembered. Then I came across the well in Rockham and despite everything I tried, I could not defeat the ambush there. It took me maybe like half an hour of trying different things, having 40+ fire res, 40+ luck, and pretty good stats to realize that the fireballs were just doing too much damage to me and it took dealing over 250 damage to kill one of the archers. I looked at the settings and then turned it off, and was able to breeze past it after doing that. I just fundamentally misunderstood what the option was for, I thought it was for the other campaigns, not the current one. I was wondering why I just couldn't get past those wizard encampments in Free haven, they'd just R.I.P. me without me killing anything. I should have taken it as a sign earlier when I was having troubles with some giant rats in Bootleg bay.

Maybe I'll tweak it a bit later so that it's on and I'm not steamrolling, but I was getting outlevelled by the overworld content lol.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Well….. giant rats! They’re horrible.

 

[Kayato]

Hello everyone, sorry for being a noob, I just signed up and I didn't find any presentation or generic topic so I'm writing directly here.
I was browsing the internet asking for information about Might and Magic 1 and 2 and they advised me to come here and ask.....and here I am! So what direction should I go than making posts about M&M 1&2?

 

[octavius]

You're in the right place. Ask away.

 

[Kayato]

Ah ok, I was transported to this topic, perfect! So I recently finished M&M1 (also using some guides), but there are some things that aren't clear to me:
- Merchant Pass and King Pass: should you simply explore the world until you find them?
- The second part of the main quest (after the dog statue) here too do you simply have to explore all the locations you see on the map or was there any clue on where to go? (plus the BJ clue)
- Were there any clues in the answer to Og's question?

 

[Mauman]

Hello everyone, sorry for being a noob, I just signed up and I didn't find any presentation or generic topic so I'm writing directly here.
I was browsing the internet asking for information about Might and Magic 1 and 2 and they advised me to come here and ask.....and here I am! So what direction should I go than making posts about M&M 1&2?

I've never played MM1, but I've beaten MM2. What exactly is your question?

 

[behold_a_man]

- Merchant Pass and King Pass: should you simply explore the world until you find them?

Maybe? Mild spoiler

I stumbled upon Merchant's Pass by accident while exploring, if that's what you're asking for.

 

[octavius]

IIRC there is a clue that you need the Merchant Pass, but not where to find it. But it is in a place you would likely explore in the early game.

As for the other questions, I don't remember the details, but I think there were some rather obscue clues.

 

[Kayato]

I've already finished the game, there are certain things I had to look for solutions online, I just wanted to understand if I hadn't found/understood some clues or simply there are no clues and you simply have to go around/try around the world.
Some of these things are:
-Merchant Pass and King Pass.
-Where to go after the "dog statue"
-The answer to Og's question

 

[Covenant]

Ah ok, I was transported to this topic, perfect! So I recently finished M&M1 (also using some guides), but there are some things that aren't clear to me:
- Merchant Pass and King Pass: should you simply explore the world until you find them?
- The second part of the main quest (after the dog statue) here too do you simply have to explore all the locations you see on the map or was there any clue on where to go? (plus the BJ clue)
- Were there any clues in the answer to Og's question?

The CRPG Addict notes the clues for Og's question in this post.

 

[Kayato]

Ah ok, I was transported to this topic, perfect! So I recently finished M&M1 (also using some guides), but there are some things that aren't clear to me:
- Merchant Pass and King Pass: should you simply explore the world until you find them?
- The second part of the main quest (after the dog statue) here too do you simply have to explore all the locations you see on the map or was there any clue on where to go? (plus the BJ clue)
- Were there any clues in the answer to Og's question?

The CRPG Addict notes the clues for Og's question in this post.

Thanks, that's an interesting point that I wouldn't have gotten to!
Sorry but I still suffer from the delayed approval of each post by a moderator since I'm still new!

Regarding M&M2, I saw that I can import the party and start from level 7, I'd say it's not bad! But I was seeing that there are 2 new classes: the Barbarian and the Ninja. Are they worth trying or can I go with the classic party? Will I have any "surprises" for sex or party alignment in this chapter?

 

[Dorateen]

But I was seeing that there are 2 new classes: the Barbarian and the Ninja. Are they worth trying or can I go with the classic party? Will I have any "surprises" for sex or party alignment in this chapter?

There are barbarian and ninja hirelings available that you can bring along. And definitely expect some surprises.

 

[Mauman]

Regarding M&M2, I saw that I can import the party and start from level 7, I'd say it's not bad! But I was seeing that there are 2 new classes: the Barbarian and the Ninja. Are they worth trying or can I go with the classic party? Will I have any "surprises" for sex or party alignment in this chapter?

First off, the barbarian gets better hp, but worse armor than the knight. It balances out IMO. Can't remember if they're better fighters than the knights like in MM3/4, but they're at least as good as the knight (minus a few weapons they can't use). Ninja fight better than robbers but are worse at thievery. Plus robbers are useful for class quests.

Barbarians have a fairly easy class quest (at least in comparison to others) while the Ninja has one of the worst.

One of the first hirelings is a barbarian, so I wouldn't bother making one if you want to have one. Actually, now that I think about it, 2 of the earliest hirelings are barbarians.

And yes, sex an alignment crops up here and there. There's ways around this however.

Also, just a little piece of advice. Don't train in any town other than Atlantium if you can help it. You get bonus hp/mp by training there. It builds up. There's a way to fix this but it's very expensive and way later into the game. Also, skill potions are your friend. Keep a few on hand if you want to try going into areas you're not supposed to. Also a godsend for class quests.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I remember not finding the merchant's pass until I was a long way into the game, which made most of the quests you unlock with it an absolute joke for my overleveled party. I don't think there are any clues as to where to find it. If there are, I missed them too.

 

[octavius]

Alignment is very important in MM2, since all items that are +6 (or was it 8?) or better are alignment restricted. But MM2 is a very inclusive game that caters for the alignment fluid among us.

 

[Mauman]

Alignment is very important in MM2, since all items that are +6 (or was it 8?) or better are alignment restricted. But MM2 is a very inclusive game that caters for the alignment fluid among us.

Yeah....having something like a Good knight, Neutral barbarian, and evil paladin (or some combination therein) is probably a good idea. I seem to recall that the game favors certain sexes for certain classes as well due to putting (I think the personality one, and I want to say intelligence) stat enhancement pools in hard to reach locations for certain genders. I think, my memory is a bit hazy here.

 

[lycanwarrior]

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Interested but pessimist.
CHances are it will turn out to be a Far Cry/Assassin's Creed in a fantasy setting.
And one on a mediocre budget, too.

 

[Artyoan]

I want to believe that it will not be pure shit.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Considering what a disappointment MMX was and the current trend of chasing Breath of the Wild.... yeah this is going to be some lame as real time 'rpg' with fantasy that's generic enough to be boring but weird enough to be retarded. Throw in some SJW nonsense and spending 90% of the budget on something retarded like a celebrity voice actor who doesn't want to be there. Wake me up when some crazy basement dweller makes a spiritual sequel to MM3-5 with no marketing. That'll be the good one.

 

[Dorateen]

Wake me up when some crazy basement dweller makes a spiritual sequel to MM3-5 with no marketing. That'll be the good one.

Legends of Amberland, especially the just released sequel.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Considering what a disappointment MMX was and the current trend of chasing Breath of the Wild.... yeah this is going to be some lame as real time 'rpg' with fantasy that's generic enough to be boring but weird enough to be retarded. Throw in some SJW nonsense and spending 90% of the budget on something retarded like a celebrity voice actor who doesn't want to be there. Wake me up when some crazy basement dweller makes a spiritual sequel to MM3-5 with no marketing. That'll be the good one.

I mean, I actually enjoyed MMX to a decent degree, even if it was made out of recycled assets and "here's your lunch money" budget.
I'd be ecstatic if this turns out to be just as good, but I'm expecting a far worse bastardization in an attempt to appeal to a a "modern audience".

 

[madrigal]

Also, skill potions are your friend. Keep a few on hand if you want to try going into areas you're not supposed to. Also a godsend for class quests.

Narrow window of usefulness soon made redundant when you find Gold armor.

Yeah....having something like a Good knight, Neutral barbarian, and evil paladin (or some combination therein) is probably a good idea.

Disagree, due to the existence of item duplication having all the same alignment is useful, also the most powerful weapon types can be obtained alignmentless and enchanted. Sharing alignment also means you only have to enchant one item instead of eight.

 

[Mauman]

Also, skill potions are your friend. Keep a few on hand if you want to try going into areas you're not supposed to. Also a godsend for class quests.

Narrow window of usefulness soon made redundant when you find Gold armor.

Yeah....having something like a Good knight, Neutral barbarian, and evil paladin (or some combination therein) is probably a good idea.

Disagree, due to the existence of item duplication having all the same alignment is useful, also the most powerful weapon types can be obtained alignmentless and enchanted. Sharing alignment also means you only have to enchant one item instead of eight.

fair enough.

 

[UndeadHalfOrc]

Hello all! I joined RPG Codex only recently, and this is my first ever post, so this will be my short introduction:
I'm a M&M and HoMM veteran.
Played King's Bounty, HoMM1, HoMM2, HoMM3, MM6, MM7, MM8 shortly after they came out.
Then in 2010, bought the M&M 6-pack on GoG.
Got started on MM1, but lost interest at level 14 because as ambitious as that game was when it came out, too much lunky stuff that got on my nerves: having to type in number for spells, no automap, and random HP level ups. So I ended up abandoning it.
Fast forward to 2022, and I REALLY would like to try again because MM2-3-4-5 look and sound like they are awesome. So I forced myself to finish MM1.

Got Started on MM2 shortly after, finished it at lev 75, managed to beat the 66 devil kings.
Loved the automap and they removed the random HP level ups from MM1. Loved being able to enchant my weapons to +28 by the end. Too bad you still had to enter numbers for spells. I did not know about the Where are We mod.

MM3, I took my time, started in january 2023, beat it only this september. Liked it even more than MM2.
I thought Obsidian weapons were far too common, far too early, and far too powerful though, so I UGE-edited them to Diamond.
(and Diamond weapons I got got downgraded to Sapphire).

Started M&M4-5 World of Xeen, which I'm currently playing, level 12, inside the Golem Dungeon. I'm loving it.


I even started a new MM1 game with the Where Are We mod, just to toy with it. Unsurprisingly, this makes it way more fun, I wish I had it back in 2010.

I still think MM6 and MM7 are awesome , still think MM8 is weak sauce.