Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[GrainWetski]

 

[fantadomat]

You were faster....this time!

 

[Luzur]

Hello! 0/

This mod is a result of more than three weeks of work (and more then two weeks and a half of testing and bug hunting) with MM Editor, different text files, tables and the LUA rich scripting environment to produce a much more interesting, much harder and - ultimately - different experience of Might & Magic 7: For Blood and Honor.

Generally, most spells will feel differently (and better to use), monsters will create additional challenge, and locations will have new secrets and dangers for player to find & overcome.
Most aspects of the game been changed at least slightly in this heavy-duty overhaul: from NPC's, services and items (including enchantments) on all maps in the game, quests reward changes and new abilities added to existing spells and skills.

Monster stats and spawns have been reworked, and many monsters now cast new spells and possess new abilities. E.G. Wyverns now can summon dragonflies.

I also restored the un-used manticore's in Nighon and the Nighon-related areas, along with numerous guard additions to outdoor maps (rocs patrolling Tularean Forest or friendly genies flying over Bracada Desert, for example), among other things.

And many more changes...

Currently my mod is in state of a First Final version.
This version name means that most changes that I want to be in the Might & Magic 7 are presented and most problems that been noticed during tests are fixed.
This does not mean that my mod will be forzen in this state.


LIST OF POSSIBLE CHANGES FOR FUTURE VERSIONS:
+ Reworking banks and town halls.
+ Adding special "perks" unique only to specific classes.
+ Further balance changes, based on more feedback.
+ Reworking expert teachers current placement in the game world.

CHANGES FOR UPDATE 1:
+ Reduced cost of spell books.
+ Now some enchantments providing additional skills points (namely for disarm traps, armmaster, ID Item, ID Monsters, unarmed and dodging skills) will provide reduced value. Other enchantments are unaffected.
+ Reduced maximum number of enhancment value. [Down From 50]
+ Changed statistics rows, so enchantments boosting stats along with other sources of stat boosts will feel better.

CHANGES FOR UPDATE 2:
+ Reworked most spells and fixed unworking spell behavior changing scripts (special thanks to help of other people)
+ Fixed hostility problems and monster interactions (most notable with Castle Navan and Tatalia)
+ Changed and fixed small assorted problems and bugs
+ Small tweaks to game balance

CHANGES FOR FIRST FINAL VERSION:
+ Tweaks for damage dealing spells
+ Tweaks for all enemies using dragon breathe or shrapmetal (King Lich, Queen of the Death, et cetera)
+ Small changes for maps
+ Improved script for correct work of all spells with changed behavior.

CHANGES FOR FIRST FINAL VERSION WITH FIXES:
+ Fixed chain damage effects (Fire Bolt / Lightning Bolt)
+ Small balance fixes to spells
+ Poison effects now work more reliably


DISCLAIMER FOR UPDATE 2 AND LATER VERSIONS:
Script folder dedicated to Global scripts contain multiple scripts weighting 0 bytes (empty scripts). These scripts are added to overwrite currently obsolete scripts for people using older version (update 1).
Empty scripts are safe to delete, but doing so is not required.

DISCLAIMER: It is advised to read README in attached .zip file for list of all notable changes.

DROPBOX LINK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vh2846jeqj47n ... 9.zip?dl=0

HOW TO INSTALL (REST OF HELP IN README):

Generally structure of mod installation is this:

1) Install a fresh (unchanged) copy of M&M7
2) Install a Grayface latest patch with NO LOD texture / Large-Mod changes (conflicts are possible)
3) Install MMExtension
4) Run M&M7 as ADMIN -- Close (IMPORTANT!)
5) Re-Open M&M7 -- Close (IMPORTANT!)
6) Install my mod overwriting everything as needed
7) Run MM7 with my mod
8) Enjoy changes for more interesting and harder game 0/

EITHER ONLY SLIGHTLY ANNOYING OR IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX CURRENTLY PROBLEMS:
1) Some textures are distorted (most notable in Erathian Sewers).
2) Some textures can be replaced with different ones for very limited amount of dungeons (most notable in Red Dwarf Mines). [Usually this is fixed by re-entering location]

3) Enhancements with new values in effect (disarm traps, armmaster, ID Item, ID Monsters, unarmed and dodging skills bonuses) still show old values in the descriptions. This will be fixed at some point in the future and have no direct impact on the game, but can be annoting. Sorry!

Special thanks goes to CognizanceGaming (scripts & testing help), eksekk (scripts & testing help), Darkrage (testing) and cthscr (help with technical aspects of mod), AstroPheonix (testing) and many other people supporting my efforts in Might & Magic Discord : - )

 

[Luzur]

Hi Everyone!
MM7 Refilled is a mod for the MM678 Merge. It aims to fill in the empty areas of MM7 with additional and more challenging monsters -- and a little more treasure.

MM7 Refilled:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m5Qez0 ... sp=sharing

When I first played the Merge, I applied Echo's MM8 Monstrosity Modling to it, and highly enjoyed the extra monsters and treasure. When I arrived in the MM7 portion, I was disappointed by the relative drop in challenge and reward. That portion of the game felt empty. MM7 Refilled aims to fix this.

The MM8 Monstrosity Modling is not required, but refraining from using it would defeat the purpose of my mod.
A Merge compatible version of the MM8 Monstrosity can be found at Nexus Mods here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/mightandmagicviii/mods/2

MM7 refilled consists of 2 files. Both should be installed atop a completed Merge installation. Open the archive and drop the contents directly into your base Merge folder. Start a new game to enjoy, as changing games.lod files in the middle of a game causes crashes.

***IMPORTANT***
Enable Compatibility Mode for your MM8.exe, set to Windows XP SP 3. Otherwise, you will get massive lag from large monster groups.

Details:
"mm7.games.lod" contains my altered maps. It replaces the file of the same name that comes with the merge.

"CTHostileMonsters.lua" is a simple script that makes almost all monsters stop fighting each other and focus on the party. This was necessary to keep several of my new monster groups from tearing each other to shreds as soon as the player wandered within range.

The script is not strictly necessary, so feel free to omit it if you need. Be aware that many of my new monster groups will ignore you and fight each other without it. The script mainly causes MM7 to act like MM6 and MM8, where the party is the focus of the monsters. Behavior of friendlies and town guards is unchanged.

Be warned! This mod makes the MM7 portion of the Merge quite a bit tougher. I made no change to existing monster stats. I placed more and/or tougher monsters in places that were void of them. Feel free to Bolster through the Merge as you see fit. Areas that used to be relatively save are no longer so, and some parts of early maps may require returning to at a higher level. Diligent monster slayers will be rewarded for their perseverance.

Of Note:
There are now many more adventurers than just you and Brent Filiant trying to win Lord Markham's contest. An earlier band awoke something dark and sinister inside the (formerly) Abandoned Temple of the Moon. Those accustomed to negotiating with Sal Sharktooth may find him loyal only to his new master.

The nations of Erathia and Tularea now actively want a piece of Harmondale, and are ready to take it from you by force. Their claims of benevolence in "rescuing" the town from its current besiegement by goblins is surely a pretense. Be prepared to fend off hostiles upon arrival in your new home. In the chaos, a rival thieves guild has set up shop in the White Cliff Caves, pursuing rumors of a hidden treasure. Several citizens of Harmondale say the new guild serves a mysterious mistress who keeps her face concealed at all times.

In Erathia, the great fortress of Riverstride is the site of constant skirmishes. In the haze of battle, combatants may not discern between their ancestral foes and innocent travelers.

The back entrance to Castle Navan through the Tularean Caves is now highly defended. Would-be raiders of the elven treasury will be fiercely resisted -- and richly rewarded. Due to the open hostilities between the Elven and Human kingdoms and poor Harmondale, the new Lords can certainly be forgiven exacting revenge upon their respective Castles and Forts. The door to the Elven treasury somehow got left open by the last Royal Factor, and remains so -- even for those who do not choose the path of the Black Knight.

The Barrow Downs has lost its Gog population, replaced instead by the many undead who have crawled out of the dwarven barrows. Many opportunists are attempting to take advantage of such a dark outpouring. Travelers are advised to beware of angry earth elementals, driven mad by the disruption of the land.

The Temples of the Light and of the Dark, and the Castles of the Wizards and the Necromancers have managed to gain possession of some of the greatest artifacts and texts of their enemies, and are attempting to purify or corrupt them -- as their nature dictates. Champions of Virtue and Scions of Wickedness are each advised to rescue such powerful items from the clutches of those who would abuse them.

Rumor has it that a rather odd warlock has claimed to have salvaged mysterious technology from the beaches north of Nighon. It has been weeks since he was last seen in town, muttering something about a "new tutor". Several experienced hydra-watchers have gone missing, and travelers are advised to use caution.

An old Armsmaster has retired in Eofol, at the site of his greatest conquests. It is now confirmed that he is in possession of a weapon of great power, having relied upon it for his battles against the great evils of the realm. The Warlocks of Nighon have grown tired of his rejection of their entreaties to purchase this weapon and are preparing a war-party to seize it by force. A party that comes to his aid, displaying their valor and selflessness, might be freely rewarded with the very weapon that others tried to take.

Finally, in the Shoals near Avlee, a long, lost shipwreck hides a mysterious bottle. Diligent explorers may discover exactly who's ship was wrecked with such strange cargo.

I hope you all enjoy new adventures with MM7 Refilled.
--Lightbringer23

 

[fantadomat]

Also didn't know that the composer was such a chad lol. That guy is buffed!

 

[The Jester]

M&M 6, 7, 8 in one game and you can travel between the worlds?

 

[grimer]

• Tracker: No known effect. Can only be learned at the Halls of Insanity in MM3
• This skill is in Swords of Xeen too. What does it?

It's not even listed in the bible, safe to say it does nothing. (RPG classics > Xeen)

It's mentioned as unknown in the M&M III skill list.

yea thats probably a skill they havent fully implemented in the game like navigation. in mm2 navigation was required to traverse the desert/tundra without getting swept away but became useless in mm3 when they removed that mechanic.

 

[Rafidur]

Is this correct for the merge mod?

https://gitlab.com/templayer/mmmerge/-/wikis/Docs/PlayerManual/Install

The "mod pack" link times out.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Is this correct for the merge mod?

https://gitlab.com/templayer/mmmerge/-/wikis/Docs/PlayerManual/Install

The "mod pack" link times out.

Celestialheavens forum seems down too...

 

[Invictus]

Is there a hi res mod for the separate games also? I loved how the games look in higher res

 

[jackofshadows]

Also didn't know that the composer was such a chad lol. That guy is buffed!

*do you even lift jpeg* check his youtube channel, there's some insighful stuff, even aside from
When I did stumble at his channel and discovered that Rachmaninoff is his favorite composer it was like everything fell into place. Several themes has made more sense to me personally but beyond that I realized why exactly he's so beloved precisely around here un Russia. No coincidence, I tell you.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Is there a hi res mod for the separate games also? I loved how the games look in higher res

There is a chinese "HD" mod, it's even compatible with MMerge, i think, you'll find it at celestialheavens when it's up and running, might be on modDB too but i never used it.

 

[fantadomat]

Rachmaninoff is his favorite composer

That is fucking prestigious,the dude that could write true Russian music and only slavs could fully feel his music! Really miserable bastard,very respective! One of my favourite composers and pianists. And one really good reason to hate kwan swines!

 

[jackofshadows]

That is fucking prestigious,the dude that could write true Russian music and only slavs could fully feel his music! Really miserable bastard,very respective! One of my favourite composers and pianists. And one really good reason to hate kwan swines!

That's one weird conclusion. Kwan swines have actually provided him shelter and the opportunity to work. Same goes for Stravinsky and many more less known artists and beyond. One really good reason to hate fucking bolsheviks (and commies in general) would be more reasonable conclusion, I'd say. Every time I listen something of later Rachmaninoff's work pains me but at the same time no less than listening Shostakovich's work of the ~same fucking period

 

[Antorus]

So no way to download the merge mod right now?

 

[fantadomat]

Kwan swines have actually provided him shelter and the opportunity to work.

Not really,they were just hunting for culture and accepted anyone gifted from Evropa because they were mainly a country filled with inbreed retards. They got intellectual cowards from all over the world. Yet in the end they didn't give two pisses about man's wishes and denied his death bed's request to be buried in Mother Russia,even now they still refuse Russian's request for his body to be returned to Russia,because muh tourists and money making. I find it disgusting all around. Kwans are just parasites and vermin in me eyes,the worst thing that could have happened to the world. While communism is an ideology that comes and goes in a few decades,kwans were the same scum throughout their whole history. That said i blame the Monarchy in Russia for being too weak and pathetic,for letting the communists to take power. Romanovs at that point were extremely pathetic at that point,the nobles should have beheaded the little cuck and took power,instead of wasting time fighting muh germany. A slime compared to the Tzars of old,like that glorious bastard Ivan Grozni.

 

[JarlFrank]

Does anyone have an alternate download link for that M&M 6+7+8 mod? I wanna play it but the website linked in Sseth's video is inaccessible...

 

[jackofshadows]

Not really,they were just hunting for culture and accepted anyone gifted from Evropa because they were mainly a country filled with inbreed retards. They got intellectual cowards from all over the world. Yet in the end they didn't give two pisses about man's wishes and denied his death bed's request to be buried in Mother Russia,even now they still refuse Russian's request for his body to be returned to Russia,because muh tourists and money making. I find it disgusting all around. Kwans are just parasites and vermin in me eyes,the worst thing that could have happened to the world. While communism is an ideology that comes and goes in a few decades,kwans were the same scum throughout their whole history. That said i blame the Monarchy in Russia for being too weak and pathetic,for letting the communists to take power. Romanovs at that point were extremely pathetic at that point,the nobles should have beheaded the little cuck and took power,instead of wasting time fighting muh germany. A slime compared to the Tzars of old,like that glorious bastard Ivan Grozni.

You're the one edgy motherfucker. Ivan Grozni was barely better than Stalin and basically was the same parasite on top of what's been great. But let's drop that.

The fact that some fuckers don't wanna let Rachmaninoff's body away is troubling but that's irrelevant because life is what relevant, not death. Especially now, at information age. In life, it were the kwan swines who saved him.

However there's a fascinatinating derivative out of all this: their (Rachmaninoff and others) art work could have been something else entirely if not this exile and the life after it. Something to think about.

 

[Efe]

Does anyone have an alternate download link for that M&M 6+7+8 mod? I wanna play it but the website linked in Sseth's video is inaccessible...

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Might and Magic 6, 7, 8 merge based on mm8 engine. [upd. 12.07.2020]
Postby Rodril » Nov 13 2017, 18:17

cthscr wrote:Links from the first post of Merge thread are broken now.

Latest Rodril's pack (v. 12.07.2020) can be obtained here

Latest Rodril's patch was 16.08.2020 which is not recommended to be installed due to being broken regarding quests.

Latest Rodril's changes (including patch 16.08.2020 and fixes) were from 2020-10-01. You can get them via 'rodril' branch of mmmerge @ gitlab. (As usual additional fixes were applied in 'rodril-fixes' branch of mmmerge @ gitlab.)

(And of course more features, more possibilities and even more fixes [that often can't be backported easily] are in 'master' branch of mmmerge @ gitlab)

Installation instruction: https://gitlab.com/templayer/mmmerge/-/ ... al/Install

Issue/Bug tracker: https://gitlab.com/templayer/mmmerge/-/issues


Hello.

Here is thing i did for past time: merge of mm6, mm7, and mm8 on base of mm8 using MMExtension.

Game files v. 12.07.2020
MEGA: https://mega.nz/file/zvh3nJrQ#ABcmCuolD ... 1joc_GNnpQ
OneDrive: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am9rWpMJxt9sasRuJzl ... o?e=QqD6vJ

Update (if you have game files of previous version): https://mega.nz/file/n7oH3DZJ#VIxXt_S7T ... OUBvOU_H2Q
Patch 16.08.2020: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oif3enzrrl405 ... 0.zip?dl=0
Update localiztion files after applying this update, if you use them.

How to install:
Warning: do not install MMPatch before applying game files.
1. Install GOG version of Might and Magic VIII.
2. Copy mod files into MM8 folder, replacing existing.
3. [Optional - skip this step if game already works] Install MMPatch 2.4.1 (https://github.com/GrayFace/Misc/releas ... v2.4.1.exe )
4. [Optional] - download localization files, links below.

Check community branch for hotfixes and additional features.

Known unfixed bugs/issues:
1. One half of double-leaf doors in MM6 dungeons sometimes stays impassable, second part usually works fine.
2. Check tracker for more.

Possible contributions if someone would:
1. Testing.
2. Repainting mm6/7 armors to fit mm8 dolls. (List of armors requiring to be repainted: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1uxa88lcbioif ... t.txt?dl=0)
(video-example at 1:18 : https://youtu.be/lipriutf3SI (video a bit outdated, use dump(*table*) function to find new fields of structures)).
3. Some texts have not been localized yet, translate any, and share them here, please.
Here is list: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qzcvdzeajg5z ... t.txt?dl=0
put this file into "Data" folder to see new texts in game. Open debug console with ctrl+f1 and execute "RelocalizeTables()" (without quotes) with ctrl+enter to see new texts without relaunching game.

Current contributions:
- Two elf females and woman from MM7 by J.M.Sower.
- Two elf males and man from MM7 by Albahr.
- MM7 dwarves, goblins, and all MM6 characters by Jamesx.
- Two connective cross-continent questlines by Echo.
- Items splitted into subtiers by Xfing: Weapons, Armors (not fully implemented yet), Apparel (not implemented yet)
- Water frames, body armor conversion and code fixes by GrayFace.
- Suggestions/bugs/tasks tracker by Templayer: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xf4 ... mZ3o/edit#
- MM6 -alike interface by Vinevi

Localization:
This is English version based on GOG releases. I did external database to not get confused with all game files, i think, i can use it to automatically replace current files with other localization, send me your *.lod archives from game folder, so i can try to do it.

Existing localizations:
German: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l44xd3is36ix ... Dwb0a?dl=0
- Texts and mm6/mm7/mm8 audio.

Polish: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hs5tur167a50 ... bVeXa?dl=0
- Texts and mm7/mm8 audio. If mm6 sound localization exist, send it to me, please.

Russian: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q5ld445zeqi8 ... o1B0a?dl=0
- Texts and mm6/mm7/mm8 audio + localized cross continent quests. There are two options: by Alexeevdenis and by Maslyonok.

French: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8u2mgfe73vfk ... 9_Pla?dl=0
- Texts and mm6/mm7/mm8 audio + localized cross continent quests by Mozaki.

Czech: *awaits bugfixing*
- Only mm6/mm7/mm8 texts + localized cross continent quests by Templayer.

Spanish localization by Roor (might be outdated): https://www.dropbox.com/sh/chkqg9sonz7z ... c6dua?dl=0

- copy files in your "...\Data" folder to apply localization.

Note:
These localizations were made mostly automatically, and have not been tested enough yet. English texts were manually reviewed by Phobos, misspells and some quest descriptions were corrected, which stays in localizations, texts for new quests does not have existing translation, if you'll resolve some of this issues, please, share new texts here.

Tips:
1. At certain points of stories you will receive instructions about traveling to other continents and explanation of it's purpose.
2. Party can be filled up at start or during gameplay by hiring random followers.
3. Game have weather effects (snow and rain), these are toggleable by new button in "Controls" menu.
4. Simple way to achieve high resolution (provided by China community): https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/10/16658
Grayface's mmpatch 2.1 supports high resolution without any side software, check it's "readme".
5. I've used Marcon Phoenix's world map for new game menu.
6. Game bolstering monsters to match them with high levelled parties, who have already finished one of continents, if this became gamebreaking or annoying - disable or adjust bolster in "Controls" menu.
7. Use "f4" button to switch windowed and fullscreen mode in game.
8. Music is disabled by default, to enable it: open file "mm8.ini" via notepad, find line "PlayMP3=0", change it to "PlayMP3=1".
9. If music does not loop, convert .mp3 files into .wav (all music files stored in "Music" folder).
10. Cheat engine for merge: http://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9058
11. "How-to" modify in-game graphics: https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/10/16923
12. "How-to" encode .smk videos for MM engine: https://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/10/16916
Last edited by Pol on Jan 29 2021, 12:59, edited 165 times in total.

links are dead tho
from a random poster on alst page
https://mega.nz/file/Ly5wDRBb#GWnXjPB3hprLz6iLkuQDUzg-LLG19y3uWCS1sk2y1xk

 

[Invictus]

All the activity must have crashed the servers, he DOES have a pretty big fanbase along with Mandalore

 

[rusty_shackleford]

mandalore's fanbase isn't big enough to even crash the codex and it crashes by itself all the time

 

[Efe]

mouselook is disabled whenever you click interact with an object

 

[Desiderius]

Kwan swines have actually provided him shelter and the opportunity to work.

Not really,they were just hunting for culture and accepted anyone gifted from Evropa because they were mainly a country filled with inbreed retards. They got intellectual cowards from all over the world. Yet in the end they didn't give two pisses about man's wishes and denied his death bed's request to be buried in Mother Russia,even now they still refuse Russian's request for his body to be returned to Russia,because muh tourists and money making. I find it disgusting all around. Kwans are just parasites and vermin in me eyes,the worst thing that could have happened to the world. While communism is an ideology that comes and goes in a few decades,kwans were the same scum throughout their whole history. That said i blame the Monarchy in Russia for being too weak and pathetic,for letting the communists to take power. Romanovs at that point were extremely pathetic at that point,the nobles should have beheaded the little cuck and took power,instead of wasting time fighting muh germany. A slime compared to the Tzars of old,like that glorious bastard Ivan Grozni.

(1) Your Dumbfuck moniker is well chosen.

(2) Wait until you find out that Wall Street funded the Bolshies...

 

[fantadomat]

Kwan swines have actually provided him shelter and the opportunity to work.

Not really,they were just hunting for culture and accepted anyone gifted from Evropa because they were mainly a country filled with inbreed retards. They got intellectual cowards from all over the world. Yet in the end they didn't give two pisses about man's wishes and denied his death bed's request to be buried in Mother Russia,even now they still refuse Russian's request for his body to be returned to Russia,because muh tourists and money making. I find it disgusting all around. Kwans are just parasites and vermin in me eyes,the worst thing that could have happened to the world. While communism is an ideology that comes and goes in a few decades,kwans were the same scum throughout their whole history. That said i blame the Monarchy in Russia for being too weak and pathetic,for letting the communists to take power. Romanovs at that point were extremely pathetic at that point,the nobles should have beheaded the little cuck and took power,instead of wasting time fighting muh germany. A slime compared to the Tzars of old,like that glorious bastard Ivan Grozni.

(1) Your Dumbfuck moniker is well chosen.

(2) Wait until you find out that Wall Street funded the Bolshies...

Eat shit faggot .!.

 

[JarlFrank]

installed the M&M 6-7-8 combi mod
started out in the world of 6, five characters, all-female party (I picked, of course, the ones with barefoot paperdolls )
already killed a bunch of goblins and found some treasure hidden under a random rock

I'm having fun. Might and Magic is just so much fun despite how simple its gameplay loop is.