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The Last Of Us 2 - now with protagonist-murdering trannies

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Writing in movies has been going to shit since the 2000s. This past years we just reached levels of retardation that shouldn't be possible, but here we are.

Writing in games was always stupid though and often mostly pointless and the few times it's actually good it's only good as far as video games go. That said, i was never impressed by what i saw of the original Last of Us and it just looked like the typical writing you find in 'murrican TV shows. The concept itself is as generic as it gets. Middle aged father who lost his child ends up having to care for a little girl in zombie apocalypse or some shit. Wow, never saw that before.

Of course i'm biased since i have a friend who absolutely loves the game and he is the worst kind of retard. He thinks Skyrim is the greatest RPG ever made and has spend countless hours modding it and every time he shows it to me it still looks like shit lmao. Anyway yeah, if he likes it it can't be good.

I do not think it is a question of quality, but rather there is a specific set of unoriginal ideas circulating in American media. By unoriginal ideas, I do not just mean Tolkien fantasy. Instead, the "subversion of expectations" as seen in Star Wars, which is a shitty version of the M. Night Shyamalan "twist". I get the sense these writers believe they exist in a "post-good" world, so long as they tried to subvert expectations and thrown a bone to progressive values.
 
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Jesus H. Christ, it's not "shitty" writing. Are ya'll blind or dumb? It's WOKE writing, obviously. It's not just simply "bad", it's a concerted effort to push a certain agenda. Ya'll are like a bunch of grammar nerds obsessing about bad spelling and sentence structure in Das Kapital. Like that's what's really wrong with it.
 
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Writing in movies has been going to shit since the 2000s. This past years we just reached levels of retardation that shouldn't be possible, but here we are.

Writing in games was always stupid though and often mostly pointless and the few times it's actually good it's only good as far as video games go. That said, i was never impressed by what i saw of the original Last of Us and it just looked like the typical writing you find in 'murrican TV shows. The concept itself is as generic as it gets. Middle aged father who lost his child ends up having to care for a little girl in zombie apocalypse or some shit. Wow, never saw that before.

Of course i'm biased since i have a friend who absolutely loves the game and he is the worst kind of retard. He thinks Skyrim is the greatest RPG ever made and has spend countless hours modding it and every time he shows it to me it still looks like shit lmao. Anyway yeah, if he likes it it can't be good.

I do not think it is a question of quality, but rather there is a specific set of unoriginal ideas circulating in American media. By unoriginal ideas, I do not just mean Tolkien fantasy. Instead, the "subversion of expectations" as seen in Star Wars, which is a shitty version of the M. Night Shyamalan "twist". I get the sense these writers believe they exist in a "post-good" world, so long as they tried to subvert expectations and thrown a bone to progressive values.
They saw that GOT was popular and thought that Subversion was the main draw, ignoring well built geography, complex politics, engaging characters and every death having reason and consequence to it.
Now every chucklefuck goes "ha,ha Reddit theorycrafters got outplayed, I am master writer", they don't care if it's good or makes sense, they just want to appear smarter than their audience (which, ironically, gives the exact opposite effect).
 

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Writing in movies has been going to shit since the 2000s. This past years we just reached levels of retardation that shouldn't be possible, but here we are.

Writing in games was always stupid though and often mostly pointless and the few times it's actually good it's only good as far as video games go. That said, i was never impressed by what i saw of the original Last of Us and it just looked like the typical writing you find in 'murrican TV shows. The concept itself is as generic as it gets. Middle aged father who lost his child ends up having to care for a little girl in zombie apocalypse or some shit. Wow, never saw that before.

Of course i'm biased since i have a friend who absolutely loves the game and he is the worst kind of retard. He thinks Skyrim is the greatest RPG ever made and has spend countless hours modding it and every time he shows it to me it still looks like shit lmao. Anyway yeah, if he likes it it can't be good.

I do not think it is a question of quality, but rather there is a specific set of unoriginal ideas circulating in American media. By unoriginal ideas, I do not just mean Tolkien fantasy. Instead, the "subversion of expectations" as seen in Star Wars, which is a shitty version of the M. Night Shyamalan "twist". I get the sense these writers believe they exist in a "post-good" world, so long as they tried to subvert expectations and thrown a bone to progressive values.

Writers are a product of their culture, which in the case of a*gloid media is usually college english grads who couldn't get a real job to save their lives, and advanced in their respective industry via nepotism. The idea of a male power fantasy, a woman being sexually attractive, or western civlization triumping over "the other" makes them inherently uncomfortable, so they try to undermine such themes.

The irony of Druckmann/Hennig is that they reverse the common stereotype of SJW infiltration. Hennig was an English grad who started out in art and animation, progressing to management and writing. Druckmann graduated with a computer science degree and worked in programming until he got moved up. Hennig has complained in depth about how sexuality and gender has come to define a lot of relationships in fiction, whereas Druckmann is obsessed with it. Still, it's entirely possible Druckmann doesn't actually believe any of that shit and is just a psychopath who used it to advance in the corporate culture of ND and SCA, similar to how Infinitron seized control of RPG Codex.
 

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The concept itself is as generic as it gets. Middle aged father who lost his child ends up having to care for a little girl in zombie apocalypse or some shit. Wow, never saw that before.

The problem is if the main idea behind the plot is original or not, the problem is the writer's expertise.
A good storyteller can wease an engaging and meaningful tale from about anything.

similar to how Infinitron seized control of RPG Codex.

I acknowledge this user's agenda.
 

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Jesus H. Christ, it's not "shitty" writing. Are ya'll blind or dumb? It's WOKE writing, obviously. It's not just simply "bad", it's a concerted effort to push a certain agenda. Ya'll are like a bunch of grammar nerds obsessing about bad spelling and sentence structure in Das Kapital. Like that's what's really wrong with it.

To be fair it goes hand in hand. You have to make so many logical somersaults for making woke writing work it turns into bad writing.
 

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Jesus H. Christ, it's not "shitty" writing. Are ya'll blind or dumb? It's WOKE writing, obviously. It's not just simply "bad", it's a concerted effort to push a certain agenda. Ya'll are like a bunch of grammar nerds obsessing about bad spelling and sentence structure in Das Kapital. Like that's what's really wrong with it.
I think you are giving these guys far more credit than they deserve. While that agenda does exist, I doubt these guys have ever put that level of thought into anything.

Never mistake malicious genius with mundane stupidity and ego.
 

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not a tranny said:
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They leaked game's chapter info (screen from debug tools), first half is marked for Ellie, the other for the bodybuilder Abby. Also Abby's gameplay footage was leaked.
I tried to look it up, but every video and screenshot is removed from internet. Too bad.

edit. Found it.

 
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The issue with showcasing buff women, or women who are good at MMA, as a rebuttal against the argument they are not suited for combat is that both of those things -- getting that big as a woman, or being that skilled a combatant as a woman -- are both markedly harder to do in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

Like, in order for women to get that huge they have to lift a crazy fucking amount, and they have to be incredibly strict with their diets . . to say nothing of their reliance on specialized supplements and sometimes outright pharmaceutical remedies. There won't be anyone in your end-of-the-world scenario -- where food is scarce, there are no supplements, and the ability to "train" will be severely curtailed by the environment and circumstances -- who is going to be super buff. If anything, most people would walking around malnourished and the people with the genetics to deal with that will be wiry and hardened, like they have bones made of teak. Getting that huge is essentially a luxury that relies on a surplus of calories, sleep, training time, and a low-cortisol state.

Which basically means that everyone will be relying on three things to be a successful violent person in such a scenario, and in this order: 1) their natural genetic endowment 2) their experience and 3) any training they can get. I'm sorry, but dudes are just naturally stronger and more savage. If you don't believe this, there's nothing else to talk about. This is not to say that a woman couldn't hold up her end in a fight or be especially vicious in a combat scenario. Because of course, you could always find that one woman (or man, for that matter) who is just a gifted killer or fighter. But you won't find a dozen of them, whereas you could probably pick a man out at random and train him to be deadly enough to a point that he only needs to fear a bigger, better trained man.

None of this should be controversial.
 

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Because of course, you could always find that one woman (or man, for that matter) who is just a gifted killer or fighter. But you won't find a dozen of them, whereas you could probably pick a man out at random and train him to be deadly enough to a point that he only needs to fear a bigger, better trained man.
The main protagonist or antagonist in (action) video games is always a gifted killer or fighter.

I know SJWs can't write good characters or plots, but the arguments from Anti-SJWs are the worst.
 

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Going on the plot synopsis and level list, at a guess I'd say there is barely a 5-6 hour game here. One hour for every year of development hell lol.

From indefinite hold to release in a month and half? Sony is cutting their losses and running. It will still sell decent numbers, but I'd say the franchise will die along with Naughty Dog as an AAA developer.

Cuckman probably has a career in Holywood ahead of him.
 

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Because of course, you could always find that one woman (or man, for that matter) who is just a gifted killer or fighter. But you won't find a dozen of them, whereas you could probably pick a man out at random and train him to be deadly enough to a point that he only needs to fear a bigger, better trained man.
The main protagonist or antagonist in (action) video games is always a gifted killer or fighter.

I know SJWs can't write good characters or plots, but the arguments from Anti-SJWs are the worst.

Well actually, no. Especially in the case of the game we're discussing -- Joel was built to be a sort of hardened "everyman" who didn't have any special skills or talents beyond what he had learned in the wasteland. He wasn't that great of a shot. He wasn't especially buff or fast. He was just brutal and uncaring. That was, in large part, the difficulty inherent in the game.
 

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No, I just kinda like if a creator gives his fans the finger.
No he just wants to push a LGBT, white man bad narrative. Which is why they kill off the white male lead and make you play as a lesbian and a tranny.
I never finished the first game, but wasn't Joel a bad man?


Well actually, no. Especially in the case of the game we're discussing -- Joel was built to be a sort of hardened "everyman" who didn't have any special skills or talents beyond what he had learned in the wasteland. He wasn't that great of a shot. He wasn't especially buff or fast. He was just brutal and uncaring. That was, in large part, the difficulty inherent in the game.
Really? I mean as an action video game character he would be average, but not in the the game itself.
 

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No, I just kinda like if a creator gives his fans the finger.
No he just wants to push a LGBT, white man bad narrative. Which is why they kill off the white male lead and make you play as a lesbian and a tranny.
I never finished the first game, but wasn't Joel a bad man?


Only if you are retarded and you missed the point of the entire game.
 

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