The Codex’s Best Computer RPGs (pre-Diablo)

[cvv]

The real cutoff point, as every truly prestigious Codexer obviously knows, is 2001

If that were the cutoff point, there wouldn't be any point in making the poll. Anyone who has spent a week on the Codex can name the top 10 of such a poll in their sleep.

So the whole point of the poll is to dodge the IE isometric bullet Codex is obsessed about?

'k

 

[Pegultagol]

3 Wasteland
3 Betrayal at Krondor
2 Daggerfall
1 Star Control 2
1 Bloodnet

 

[croitav]

5 points for each
Dungeon Master
Realms of Arkania: Star Trail

 

[curds]

There may be some games I prefer, but I'd like to see it get some representation anyways.

Fuck that. Just list your damn favourites, man. (This is aimed at everyone who votes with an agenda rather than just listing what they like so don't take it personally)

 

[HarveyBirdman]

5 points each:
- Daggerfall
- Wizardry 7

 

[Casual Hero]

There may be some games I prefer, but I'd like to see it get some representation anyways.

Fuck that. Just list your damn favourites, man. (This is aimed at everyone who votes with an agenda rather than just listing what they like so don't take it personally)

Well I get that, but to be perfectly honest, Wizardry 1 is the only game on this list that I've beaten myself. It's the only game I can vote on with total confidence that I can back it up.

 

[Lady Error]

Current results:

Spoiler

It's pretty close at the top.

 

[felipepepe]

The 1-5 point scale with only 10 points was too unbalanced... With results so close and people able to give 5 points to two games, a single voter can significantly change the entire ranking :/

 

[ERYFKRAD]

The 1-5 point scale with only 10 points was too unbalanced.

Anti sawyerism is quite in spirit of the times, my good man.

 

[Casual Hero]

We should just roll 3d6 down the line to determine ranking.

 

[Mightmagic]

4 points:
Might and Magic 3: Isles of Terra (New World Computing)

3 points:
Stonekeep (Interplay)
Ravenloft: Stone Prophet (Dreamforge)

 

[Tacgnol]

Current results:

Spoiler

It's pretty close at the top.

Pretty diverse list. Seems like most of the "subcategories" of RPG are represented pretty well.

 

[Lady Error]

With results so close and people able to give 5 points to two games, a single voter can significantly change the entire ranking

Not really, it's just that we have a somewhat unexpected close run of 3-4 games at the top.

 

[Darth Roxor]

The 1-5 point scale with only 10 points was too unbalanced... With results so close and people able to give 5 points to two games, a single voter can significantly change the entire ranking :/

good

 

[Decado]

The 1-5 point scale with only 10 points was too unbalanced... With results so close and people able to give 5 points to two games, a single voter can significantly change the entire ranking :/

I don't see the problem with this, though. If you're willing to give 5 points to a single game as opposed to 1 point to 5 games, that says something about the game getting 5 points.

I think we will have a group of 7-10 games jockeying for various positions which is as it should be. It was always going to be close, and as we talked about in the thread (I think?) it might not make sense to have a ranking at all, just a group; aka, the best 5 or 10 RPGs, none of them ranked.

 

[Jason Liang]

The 1-5 point scale with only 10 points was too unbalanced... With results so close and people able to give 5 points to two games, a single voter can significantly change the entire ranking :/

I don't see the problem with this, though. If you're willing to give 5 points to a single game as opposed to 1 point to 5 games, that says something about the game getting 5 points.

Or someone who has only played 1-2 games from this era.

I would have implemented a scaling point system, like I outlined in previous poll threads:

1 game -> 2 points
min. 2 games -> 3 points
min. 3 games -> 5 points, max 3
min. 4 games -> 6 points, max 3
min. 5 games -> 8 points, max 3
min. 10 games -> 15 points, max 3
min. 15 games -> 22 points, max 3

 

[Decado]

The 1-5 point scale with only 10 points was too unbalanced... With results so close and people able to give 5 points to two games, a single voter can significantly change the entire ranking :/

I don't see the problem with this, though. If you're willing to give 5 points to a single game as opposed to 1 point to 5 games, that says something about the game getting 5 points.

Or someone who has only played 1-2 games from this era.

I would have implemented a scaling point system, like I outlined in previous poll threads:

1 game -> 2 points
min. 2 games -> 3 points
min. 3 games -> 5 points, max 3
min. 4 games -> 6 points, max 3
min. 5 games -> 8 points, max 3
min. 10 games -> 15 points, max 3
min. 15 games -> 22 points, max 3

This is way too fucking complicated.

 

[V_K]

Quite honestly, since Deuce Traveler and Co bothered to compile the list, they might have just as well made it a "rate every game on the list that you've played" kind of poll.

 

[Drunken Irishman]

Current results:

Spoiler

It's pretty close at the top.

The top 10 is actually pretty good. Even the top 20 is okay. Basically, all the games, that people should at least try for developing their gaming palate, are mentioned.

The only issue I have is the huge chasm between Shattered Lands and Wake of the Ravager, and between Ultima Underworld and Underworld II. It's not like there is a huge drop in quality.

 

[Darth Roxor]

No matter what scoring approach you apply, it will always generate butthurt. Therefore this one is as good as any.

 

[Jason Liang]

Current results:

Spoiler

It's pretty close at the top.

The top 10 is actually pretty good. Even the top 20 is okay. Basically, all the games, that people should at least try for developing their gaming palate, are mentioned.

No Ultima V or Kichikuou Rance? The top 10 is popamole derp drek.
Ultima 7 is shit. Does not belong anywhere near the top 20. As far as I can tell, it's clearly the least enjoyable game in the top 20.
Lands of Lore top 20? wtf.

 

[Skall]

The only issue I have is the huge chasm between Shattered Lands and Wake of the Ravager, and between Ultima Underworld and Underworld II. It's not like there is a huge drop in quality.

I personally included Ultima VII: The Black Gate, Shattered Lands, and Ultima Underworld over their sequels simply because they were the first to use their respective engines and, at the time, made a bigger impact on me. It's not a denunciation of the quality of the subsequent titles.

(Although I first checked out Shattered Lands only a few years ago, and haven't played through Wake of the Ravager just yet.)

 

[V_K]

No matter what scoring approach you apply, it will always generate butthurt. Therefore this one is as good as any.

No. It doesn't generate enough butthurt.

 

[Kleptocratic debt serf]

Three points:

-Dark Sun: Wake of the Ravager
-Daggerfall
-Darklands

One Point:

-Ultima 1/Trilogy (my first RPG - on a shitty Apple II hand me down back in 1992, I was 8 years old but still remember)

Okay, pretty sure the real purpose of this thread is remind old fags just how old they really are.

 

[Xorphitus]

Giving 1 point to each of these.

Wasteland
Champions of Krynn
Wizardry 6: Bane of the Cosmic Forge
Death Knights of Krynn
Ultima 7: The Black Gate
Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant
Might and Magic V: Darkside of Xeen
Ultima 7 Part 2: Serpent Isle
Might and Magic: World of Xeen
Swords of Xeen