Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

[Lilura]

Wow, you really are a newbie to BG2. And why are you asking these Qs on the Codex?

 

[Grunker]

I'm thinking of doing a Cleric/Thief multiclass playthrough in the future and I have two questions. How good is that multiclass and what would be the best race? Gnome for the shorty saves and bonus to thieving skills or half-orc for the ridiculous physical attributes?

Damn, I thought you were a pro bro

Cleric/Thief is fine 'cause backstab is supar dupar cool and I'd probably go with Gnome 'cause I mean Gnomes are totally rad but half-orcs are objectively better at first especially when you get use any item. Later when stats get buffed to max Gnomes are better again but it's with a tiny margin

What version will you be playing? If you are using an L1NPC-compatible one and stacking difficulty mods you can defend easing the Cleric weapon restrictions. I often do with such combinations.

 

[Citizen]

Gnome C/T + staff of magi + sanctuary + invisibility + backstabs + various cleric spells + UAI = best candidate for solo non-reload playthrough. But you are going to have some hardtime before getting the staff.

 

[Lilura]

Damn, I thought you were a pro bro.

I thought he was a pro, too. I never thought you were, though.

 

[Jason Liang]

I'm thinking of doing a Cleric/Thief multiclass playthrough in the future and I have two questions. How good is that multiclass and what would be the best race? Gnome for the shorty saves and bonus to thieving skills or half-orc for the ridiculous physical attributes?

Thieves can only backstab with thief weapons, and the only 2H thief weapon that a cleric can use is quarterstaff (and the only 1H thief weapon that clerics can use is club). It's not a huge issue since quarterstaves are top tier weapons in BG: EE and BG2: EE.

Another problem I can think of is that Cleric and Thief HLA's are kind of ass (besides Thief's UAD of course).

If you multiclass you wont be able to kit (unless you use a mod). Thief kits are pretty good so it might be worth it to play a human dual class cleric/ thief instead.

The final problem is are you going to be attacking or casting spells? Thief doesn't help if you're castinng spells, and if you're going to be fighting, then fighter/ thief is a better thief multiclass.

 

[Lilura]

Try here.

 

[Lacrymas]

When have I ever said I was a pro? I played BG1 for the first time 2 years ago, just before I joined the Codex, and only much later BG2. I've said that before. I don't have experience with all the classes and combinations. And where else would I ask such questions? The Beamdog forum lol?

Lilura, that's for Mage/Thief, though, I know how that plays :p

 

[Lilura]

And where else would I ask such questions? The Beamdog forum lol?

No, r/baldursgate is where the experts are. And before that, they were elsewhere.

 

[Lacrymas]

The wiki says very basic things that I know already, I need more juicy info. Like "is it viable at all?" and "gnome or half-orc?" lol. I suppose every class is viable, but if it's terrible compared to any other class, or even its dual-class, there's no point to playing it.

 

[Lilura]

Half-orc sounds good but it's EZ for clerics to buff physical stats to 25 so gnome is the better choice for the bonus to saves and thief skills. It's not really a power-gaming multi but you can do stuff like stealth while under the effect of Globe of Blades. You can also HLA assassinate with Righteous Magic, which is pretty cool.

 

[Lacrymas]

There's also the fact that gnomes have -1 WIS. I suppose it doesn't matter much when you have 3 tomes of understanding to get through. Both half-orc and gnome are cool, so I don't mind either in terms of "coolness". I predict that half-orc would be easier to start with because of 19 str, 19 con, but then the gnome will outperform half-orcs due to the shorty saves.

 

[hell bovine]

The wiki says very basic things that I know already, I need more juicy info. Like "is it viable at all?" and "gnome or half-orc?" lol. I suppose every class is viable, but if it's terrible compared to any other class, or even its dual-class, there's no point to playing it.

Gnome. A bonus to saves is better than the cleric bonus spells, you'll max your strenght with draw upon holy might anyway.

Cleric/thief is a fun multiclass, imo. Sanctuary lets you steal with impunity, righteous magic gives your backstab that extra stab. Late game staff of the ram combined with duhm and rm makes for a very nasty backstab, though most of ToB tough critters are immune. On the plus side, having access to mage scrolls through UAI really helps keeping a character alive in 'SCS & Ascension' land.

 

[Lacrymas]

There's a very weird bug with the EE where the game doesn't detect your actual alignment. My true neutral Druid/Fighter got the chaotic evil Bhaalspawn abilities and my current testing C/T neutral evil gnome is treated as if he's good alignment by Hull. Has anyone else noticed that? The only mods I have are SCS, NPC project and Fixpack (although I don't remember if I only used it to install SCS).

EDIT: I googled it and it turns out you get the bhaalspawn abilities based on your reputation. Which is weird because someone at the Ironworks forum has listed them as alignment powers. Sooo, conflicting information. That doesn't change the fact that Hull treats me as if I'm good alignment, though.

 

[hell bovine]

Might be because in BG2 your starting reputation (and therefore powers) was based on your alignement. Same as in BG1, but there you had enough time to change your rep before the first dream.

Hull's reaction is based on your charisma, from what I remember.

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah, you are right, it turns out it's from CHA rather than alignment. Good to know there's no bug.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Wow, you really are a newbie to BG2. And why are you asking these Qs on the Codex?

Gate keeping the BG thread?

 

[Lilura]

Gate keeping the BG thread?

If I am, what are you going to do about it?

 

[oldmanpaco]

Gate keeping the BG thread?

If I am, what are you going to do about it?

 

[Lilura]

Thought so.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Thought so.

 

[razvedchiki]

Guys is it possible to create a custom party in BG and importing it in bg2 with their stats/lvls unchanged?

 

[Morkar Left]

Creating a multiplayer session and exporting the chars in BG1 and importing them back in BG2?

Or play with BGT or EET of course.

 

[Lacrymas]

The EEs have a functionality to create a custom party without creating a MP session, but I don't know if you can export and import them ALL. If all else fails you can recreate your custom party in BG2 and then change their stats to their appropriate values in Shadow/EEKeeper.

 

[razvedchiki]

Guys the APR an archer gets through lvling and grandmastering also apply to crossbows?
So a lvl 13 archer with grandmaster in crossbows would have 3 attacks per round?

 

[Lilura]

Yes, but Tuigan shortbow will have 5 ApR.