Incline Team Ninja's Rise of the Ronin

[Spike]

Man, uh oh. I'm an optimistic combatfag too and this even has me a little concerned. I will wait for PC and we will know by then, but I will probably grab it regardless because as long as the combat is fun, even if it is a bit simple, I'm a pretty big TN fan in general and trust them. I had no idea they split up to make Wo Long as well as RotR. Maybe they shouldn't do that in future? Who knows, it was definitely an experiment.

 

[911 Jumper]

The more I see and read about this game, the more inclined I am to believe that this is another Team Ninja “Japanese Hamburger” – a Japanese game that tries to appeal to the West but stumbles (the term was originally used to describe the vanilla version of Ninja Gaiden 3).

I get the impression that in this instance, Team Ninja looked at games such as Assassin's Creed and RDR2 and decided to do their own interpretation of those games without properly evaluating whether they have tech and dev skills to handle such a game.

The proprietary engine they are using has been their platform since Nioh 1. I've read that even in the PS5's Performance Mode, RotR has an unstable framerate – it struggles to maintain 60fps and drops into the 40s. Cutscenes also exhibit judder.

It's embarrassing for Sony, to say the least. This is a PS5 exclusive, in other words a game built targeting a single platform spec. I'm surprised that they have allowed previews while the game is in this state.

 

[Abu Antar]

Someone was strwaming this for five hours. Setting seems okay, not sure the gameplay is for me. Would have liked a demo.

 

[Bendu]

More Assassin's Creed than Nioh

 

[cruel]

76 on Metactritic, based on 94 reviews. Pretty disappointing for a PS5 exclusive, no way this will be a hit for them. I'm actually happy that I canceled my preorder.

Wondering if someone's head will fall on Team Ninja side based on that. So many stupid decisions they made regarding that game:
- the biggest strength the company has (combat system) was dumbed down
- no supernatural enemies, limiting possible enemy variety
- following shitty Ubisoft formula for world design for no reason
- trying to create a story-heavy game while sucking at storytelling
- releasing same day as DD2

Just give me Nioh 3 some day, please.

 

[911 Jumper]

Memories of Ninja Gaiden 3 should have prevented them from going down the “Let's try to appeal to the West” path.

 

[cruel]

It seems the game has some very impressive quest & objective design as well:
- defeat enemies (0/5)
- defeat formidable foes (0/2)
- collect wood (0/5)

Maybe they were using AI to create those, not people?

 

[Skinwalker]

Is it going to be more or less shitty than Nioh 2?

 

[911 Jumper]

This review's a bit more positive


The more I see, the more I think those saying it looks like a [native] last gen game are being charitable. It could pass for a remastered late gen PS3 game.

 

[REhorror]

Holy shit, imagine if this is on PC now.

I freaking want it so bad.

 

[Skinwalker]

So is it definitely shit?

 

[notpl]

So is it definitely shit?

I don't know. One of you rich boys with a ps5 should take one for the team and let us know.

 

[Skinwalker]

So is it definitely shit?

I don't know. One of you rich boys with a ps5 should take one for the team and let us know.

But I need to know whether or not this is shit before I get a ps5.

 

[Lyric Suite]

The more I see, the more I think those saying it looks like a [native] last gen game are being charitable. It could pass for a remastered late gen PS3 game.

Looks on a level with Nioh except less shiny.

BTW, difficulty modes. Yuck, we are doing this now i guess. I pray FromSoft won't succumb too. Wonder if people complaining the combat is simplistic aren't playing at the easy setting.

 

[cruel]

https://www.truetrophies.com/news/most-popular-ps5-games-rise-of-the-ronin-debut

The most interesting part: Dragons Dogma 2 player count topped Rise of the Ronin debut by 77%.

Well well, who would have expected that releasing on the same day was stupid.

 

[Skinwalker]

Why does this game look like Tenchu: Birth of the Stealth Assassins?

By which I mean, it looks like it was made in 1998.

 

[Machocruz]

Team Ninja rebirth arc already peaked at Nioh 2? What a shame.

 

[Turn_BASED]

Based on 4chan posts the game seems to be very fun, makes me want to play it after DD2 slithered out of Itsuno’s ass.

If we don’t get a PC port by Allah strap me to a PS5 and fire me at Tel Aviv I am ready.

 

[Spike]

Based on 4chan posts the game seems to be very fun, makes me want to play it after DD2 slithered out of Itsuno’s ass.

If we don’t get a PC port by Allah strap me to a PS5 and fire me at Tel Aviv I am ready.

I knew it would be...Once again, the cantankerous dullards at the Codex never cease to overblow everything.

 

[Lyre Mors]

It's nice that apparently every enemy has a unique moveset. So while you're facing off with humans only, they managed to make them all feel fresh. I heard one reviewer say it strikes a balance between Nioh's and Wo Long's combat complexity, and that's not a terrible middleground to be in when it comes to action combat (I like Wo Long's combat well enough).

I'll likely check this out when it comes to PC. Hopefully get it as a GOTY type thing for $40 at some point.

 

[Spike]

It's nice that apparently every enemy has a unique moveset. So while you're facing off with humans only, they managed to make them all feel fresh. I heard one reviewer say it strikes a balance between Nioh's and Wo Long's combat complexity, and that's not a terrible middleground to be in when it comes to action combat (I like Wo Long's combat well enough).

I'll likely check this out when it comes to PC. Hopefully get it as a GOTY type thing for $40 at some point.

Thank God, praise be. Team Ninjer has not failed us yet.

 

[Multidirectional]

I have no hopes for it being playable on my PC anyway, since I can't even run Wo Long at stable 60 fps. Their open world game is bound to run even worse. But maybe some years down the line I will be able to enjoy it. I don't mind their games not having top tier graphics, but why do they also have to run a lot worse than way better looking games from other studios? Annoying.

 

[Suicidal]

I watched a stream of this game a bit and it did look better than in the previews and trailers. Guy was fighting a boss for like an hour and it looked fun and very Sekiro-like. Also the animations looked much more competent, which made me think the trailers were filmed at 20 FPS or something, so it seemed like half the animation frames were missing.

Looking forward to trying it when it's on PC.

 

[Spike]

I watched a stream of this game a bit and it did look better than in the previews and trailers. Guy was fighting a boss for like an hour and it looked fun and very Sekiro-like. Also the animations looked much more competent, which made me think the trailers were filmed at 20 FPS or something, so it seemed like half the animation frames were missing.

Looking forward to trying it when it's on PC.

"...very fun and Sekiro-like"
Ahh, that's the stuff.

 

[ADL]

Been watching gameplay of this over the past couple days. Looks like it's definitely less focused than Ninja Gaiden Black, Nioh and Wo Long but there's only so many times you can play Ninja Gaiden Black, Nioh and Wo Long. A mediocre Team Ninja game is still comparatively better than 99.9% of all other games and I'm not a fan of making perfection the enemy of good.
(on PC)