Vapourware System Shock 3 by OtherSide Entertainment - taken over by Tencent!

[Mozg]

Twist: You were Shodan the whole time whooaaa

Hope this surprises me somehow 'cause I can't imagine.

 

[Karwelas]

FYI, that's a part of this talk in 2002:

Do you know where is it? I mean time.

 

[LESS T_T]

Do you know where is it? I mean time.

Thief talk starts in 42:35. (Youtube's auto generated transcript is quite useful when search inside the video.)

 

[Sodafish]

If there's one sequel announcement that can get me cautiously fapping it's SS3. This despite the bitter cynic realist in me knowing it will likely be dogshit.

 

[Infinitron]

Lots of console vs PC angst here: https://www.othersideentertainment.com/forum/index.php?topic=942.msg16102#msg16102

 

[Viata]

My kids friends never heard of Shock so I shouldn't target them at all? Of course I should, younger gamers understand immersion completely. They grew up on Minecraft. They will get what we build. Console gamers will see 'like Bioshock'. If we went there we would embrace that for the console release.

 

[Infinitron]

My kids friends never heard of Shock so I shouldn't target them at all? Of course I should, younger gamers understand immersion completely. They grew up on Minecraft. They will get what we build. Console gamers will see 'like Bioshock'. If we went there we would embrace that for the console release.

Well, he's not wrong - the existing popularity of BioShock is a good marketing "in" for a future SS3 console port. It's not a completely unknown thing to console gamers. And by Minecraft he's referring to doing stuff with PHYSIX, though I don't know if SS3 is going to be as much about that stuff as UA is.

It's all a hypothetical though. These guys don't have the resources now to develop a multiplatform title even if they wanted to.

 

[Alfons]

Pardon the silly question, but what makes you think this will be good?

 

[jcd]

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[Infinitron]

Pardon the silly question, but what makes you think this will be good?

(((infinitron))) is a jew like (((ken levine))) that's why he defends him and his useless games

This might also answer Alfons' question.

 

[jcd]

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[Infinitron]

Hey, what do you know: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...and-its-similarities-to-his-next-project.aspx

Ken Levine's Take On System Shock 3 And Its Similarities To His Next Project

With the announcement of Otherside Entertainment's upcoming sequel to the beloved System Shock 2, we wanted to check in and see what the lead designer and lead writer of that game, Ken Levine, thought of the news. In an interview for an upcoming episode of The Game Informer Show, Levine had this to say about the prospect of System Shock 3.

“I wish them the best," Levine said. "I have a personal connection to System Shock, [System Shock 2] was the first game I ever shipped. We were completely stumbling around in the dark on that game… so the impact that it had was a complete surprise to us. Without that game, there’s nothing else for us. Nothing would have happened. So I have a deep connection with it... I’m excited, I hope they can figure it out and make a cool game out of it.”

We then asked Levine about leaving the next System Shock in somebody else's hands and whether he would have liked to work on it himself, but he responded by drawing comparisons to his mysterious next project that he says is a first-person sci-fi RPG.

“I’m so deeply involved in the themes of our new thing, our new game is a science-fiction game," Levine said. "It involves themes like artificial intelligence and what it means to be programmed, that you are a thing that was created by programming. That’s a big theme in the new game. And how much agency you have outside of what you are as a piece of programming instructions. So I’m scratching a lot of those itches in the new game already. I don’t really feel a need to go back to touch those characters again, in the same way that I didn’t need to when I made BioShock. Say we would have gotten the rights to System Shock before we did BioShock, there wouldn’t have been an Andrew Ryan, or Big Daddies, or Elizabeth… I do think it’s important to move on and make different things in life.”

To listen to the full interview with Ken Levine, subscribe to The Game Informer Show and stay tuned for Thursday's episode.

 

[MrJohnson]

Damn man - If the kids buy the game because it's a "bioshock sequel" ....

 

[Roguey]

If I recall, System Shock was originally written as a trilogy—that is, the plot for System Shock 3 was already written when System Shock 2 released. They got, I believe, a professional writer to write them a novelish sort of narrative that ran from the first to the third.

However, EA required them to slap in, at the last minute, the Rebecca Simmons ending; it wasn’t part of the script as written, and it doesn’t fit into the prewritten narrative.

Now that I've actually paid attention to this post, I can say you're misrembering.

https://archive.is/acws

Neurath’s offer was incredibly open. Looking Glass had, in making Thief: The Dark Project, developed its own in-house engine. All of Irrational were experienced with it, having all worked on Thief. Why not make a game with it with us? Any game you fancy, really. “We immediately started designing,” Levine recalls.

“The three partners sat down, and we ended up with a game design which was basically our design for Shock 2, but in a totally different world. It was a kind of Heart Of Darkness story, with a military commander gone crazy and your mission was to go to this crazy spaceship and assassinate him.”

This was pitched around various publishers. The one that bit was Electronic Arts, which – through its purchase of Origin – was in possession of the System Shock IP. EA suggested that the game could, in fact, be System Shock 2. “And we said, ‘Um… sure’,” Levine laughs. “I rewrote the story and changed a few of the things, but the game design never changed.”

This isn't unlike certain horror movie sequels where they take a pre-existing unrelated script and make changes to make it part of the franchise.

 

[LESS T_T]

More Facebook fun: https://www.facebook.com/OtherSideEntertainment/posts/1700599850152184

Henri Haimakainen More than a minimalistic UI, it should be in vein of the game visuals (unlike games like the latest Thief where the UI was too "modern" for a steampunk/medieval game). I like the UI in SS2, keeps me in the game's world. [...]

OtherSide Entertainment There was a new Thief?

Magnus Lindén Things that I think should be in SS3 [...] 6. Music. The music in SS2 was excellent. But the tecno should be toned down.

OtherSide Entertainment Aw...we were thinking going total 80's electronica. Art of Noise FTW. (The reality is we haven't thought about it yet)

 

[pippin]

OtherSide Entertainment There was a new Thief?

That's my impression as well. It has been a very long time since Thief 3. Perhaps tha guy was talking about Dishonored?

 

[Viata]

It seems people are expecting more SS2 than 1 in SS3. I find 1 better.

 

[MrJohnson]

More Facebook fun: https://www.facebook.com/OtherSideEntertainment/posts/1700599850152184

Speaking of music, I always liked the dystopia soundtrack, I think some of those tunes could fit System Shock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0JERHozflU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3eP6nWjosI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiKXB_B5NMc

 

[pippin]

It seems people are expecting more SS2 than 1 in SS3. I find 1 better.

SS1 was one of those games that were too old and "forgotten" for mainstream gamers to care about. Besides, SS2 had Ken Levine, and you know the spiritual predecessor to Bioshock has to be good.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

SS1 with the mouselook mod is as amazing today as it was then. SS2 I felt went much further into the organic horror direction. SS1 was intense through cybernetics. Also I would love to see an improved Cyberspace ala SS1.

 

[jcd]

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[DraQ]

It seems people are expecting more SS2 than 1 in SS3. I find 1 better.

SS2 had better atmosphere and some mechanical additions. Otherwise, yeah.

Anyway, at the very worst it will draw some gamers to rediscover SS1 and SS2.

 

[xemous]

they'll get him on board eventually due to pressure just like they did with avellone and wasteland 2

he'll be a stretch goal in the kickstarter

ill predict it now

 

[xemous]

i recall reading about similar events in 2005-2006

 

[Morgoth]

Ken isn't a developer, he's a writer. And bitch all you want, Shock2's writing was excellent you faggots.