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Stellaris - Paradox new sci-fi grand strategy game

Hoodoo

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Yeah you outsource the alpha testing to naive gamers for 3 years straight.
What are you talking about? Part of the enjoyment of playing the game is having to constantly change play-styles to adapt to the new version.

Paradox game design follows the same parameters as sport. You create a rough framework and then adapt that framework according to how people play. Hell, it's the same way the market works.

You don't pay 45$ to play football lite.

15$ deal, turn your brick into a genuine rubber ball.
 

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Yeah you outsource the alpha testing to naive gamers for 3 years straight.
What are you talking about? Part of the enjoyment of playing the game is having to constantly change play-styles to adapt to the new version.

Paradox game design follows the same parameters as sport. You create a rough framework and then adapt that framework according to how people play. Hell, it's the same way the market works.

You don't pay 45$ to play football lite.

15$ deal, turn your brick into a genuine rubber ball.
In total agreement with you here. Their DLC policy is bad. Really bad. And no, I don't care about the nickel and diming. Their DLC model prevents them from following the timeline I set up above, as they will never fix features of a DLC. DLC should be cosmetic only.
 
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back in the day we loathed dlcs because horse armors were ripped out of the game to be sold separately.
now you want horse armors to be ripped out of the game to be sold separately.
 

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back in the day we loathed dlcs because horse armors were ripped out of the game to be sold separately.
now you want horse armors to be ripped out of the game to be sold separately.

No need to buy horse armor, if modders give you whole horses in full armor for free. And all the other cool stuff that usually hits Paradoxgames from the beyond.
 

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Release is only harming the game. take Half-Life 3, for example. It's perfect in it's current state, flawless and ideal. Why cripple it with release? Until going gold the game exists in a many variants, and once released, people can experience only one of such variants. No, games should be developed indefinitely.
 
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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
So what is the Codex Consensus™ for the game? I found a nice 20 euro offer in a shady cdkey site and Im considering it
 

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Oh I think we can reach a consensus right now that you need to wait for a few patches or maybe mods first.
 

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thanks to ulminati i will have to play this heap

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I've bought some time ago Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition on Steam and refunded the next day but I was still able to launch the game afterwards.
Will I be able to do that with Stellaris?
 

Jimmious

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Oh I think we can reach a consensus right now that you need to wait for a few patches or maybe mods first.
There you go. It's the Codex here guys, opinions are made without the necessity of first hand experience. Learn from the masters
 
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Oh I think we can reach a consensus right now that you need to wait for a few patches or maybe mods first.
There you go. It's the Codex here guys, opinions are made without the necessity of first hand experience. Learn from the masters
Going by all of Paradoxes previous grand strategy titles, it's very accurate. They're always a buggy mess at first and require a fair amount of mods and/or paid DLC before they get any semblance of depth or balance.
 

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I've bought some time ago Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition on Steam and refunded the next day but I was still able to launch the game afterwards.
Will I be able to do that with Stellaris?
Paradox games have no DRM so once the executable is on your disk they can't stop you from playing.
 

Jimmious

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Oh I think we can reach a consensus right now that you need to wait for a few patches or maybe mods first.
There you go. It's the Codex here guys, opinions are made without the necessity of first hand experience. Learn from the masters

I have been playing their games since EU1 times so I know my Paradox thank you.
I was actually serious and your answer was just fine
 

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Paradox games can also get worse with DLC and patches...CK2 is a good example. I would take the release bugs to the "balancing" done by Paradox
 

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Paradox games have no DRM so once the executable is on your disk they can't stop you from playing.

They know better.

Mods are the best part of their games so they hide the forums behind the game keys.

Even if you torrent the game it helps to buy their games on sale just for access.
 

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I noticed there is already 2 cosmetics dlcs "out". The pre-order thing, and then the galaxy version dlc. LAME!

6 races will be missing by buying it after release, or the normal version.
 

Kem0sabe

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I noticed there is already 2 cosmetics dlcs "out". The pre-order thing, and then the galaxy version dlc. LAME!

6 races will be missing by buying it after release, or the normal version.
It's fucking paradox, the most anti consumer publisher bellow the AAA tier of customer buggery.

The fact this is SciFi, andniwnt constrained by such things as history and 'realism', will allow them to milk the game for DLC in a way they have never managed before...
 
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You mean like the historically accurate Aztec invasion of Europe?
 

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