Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Butter]

There was a time when I was more sympathetic to conservative conerns over SJW (this was before the term "woke" took off) preachiness and naivete. I agree it doesn't make much sense for everywhere to be a diverse, multi-ethnic hub straight out of a corporate DEI program. But then I ran up into the thing that presumably turns off every other educated person off when they try to deal with conservative thought. Conservatives are fucking luddites. Like say you're a geologist who believes in traditional family values but you're also studying groundwater reservoirs and notice current agricultural practices are exploiting the resource too rapidly which will lead to poor crop yields and sinkholes in a decade or so. If you try to point this out to a conservative, they will call you a woke soyjak and invent conspiracies for why your data was fabricated by Soros in an effort to use regulatory standards to pacify and control the population. At that point your cultural concerns become secondary to the fact that a buch of moronic hicks are going to destroy the local industry and then beg for bailouts all the while never even realizing that their own dumbassery caused the problem in the first place.

IDK bro. I think the Luddites might be on to something.

 

[Ben Zyklon]

I'm really in awe at how much Bethesda fucked up with this one lmao.

Brings me back to the Oblivion days and the Codex outrage at how shit the game was, except this time it is the mainstream normies that are raging while Codexers are actually slurping this slop. Fancy that.

Nah, the goys are all over this slop.

Cohh is a Bethesda fanboy so he will shill for this trash and not only that: HE WAS FUCKING SPONSORED BY BETHESDA. So you don't go thinking that guy will give you an unbiased opinion.

 

[NecroLord]

There was a time when I was more sympathetic to conservative conerns over SJW (this was before the term "woke" took off) preachiness and naivete. I agree it doesn't make much sense for everywhere to be a diverse, multi-ethnic hub straight out of a corporate DEI program. But then I ran up into the thing that presumably turns off every other educated person off when they try to deal with conservative thought. Conservatives are fucking luddites. Like say you're a geologist who believes in traditional family values but you're also studying groundwater reservoirs and notice current agricultural practices are exploiting the resource too rapidly which will lead to poor crop yields and sinkholes in a decade or so. If you try to point this out to a conservative, they will call you a woke soyjak and invent conspiracies for why your data was fabricated by Soros in an effort to use regulatory standards to pacify and control the population. At that point your cultural concerns become secondary to the fact that a buch of moronic hicks are going to destroy the local industry and then beg for bailouts all the while never even realizing that their own dumbassery caused the problem in the first place.

IDK bro. I think the Luddites might be on to something.

It just looks ugly, dude.
Screaming ugly. At least Skyrim looked pretty from a distance (and had that mountain epicness).

 

[Grampy_Bone]

They hate truth and truth is beauty so they hate that too. "Spiteful mutants." Simple as.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Also a few people got timeout'd for saying "woke" after this dialogue, just so you know that this guy is not only uglier than sin but also a massive faggot.

Why you post that guy here? We know this already. He calls his streams "family friendly" which in translation means lgbt degeneracy.

 

[El Presidente]

Also a few people got timeout'd for saying "woke" after this dialogue, just so you know that this guy is not only uglier than sin but also a massive faggot.

Why you post that guy here? We know this already. He calls his streams "family friendly" which in translation means lgbt degeneracy.

I had no idea actually. Never watched his content.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Ironic, on Mars they remind citizens through a speaker not to waste water with long showers. Didn't we have something like that recently?

 

[thesecret1]

i wonder why movies still use really attractive actors for most movies and western gaming decided to go into the opposite direction

Bruh have you seen Netflix and its gorilla posse?

 

[Crispy]

Again, I've only just now completed the starting mission, but even this early on I can unequivocally state that if this is the direction Bethesda is heading they're in trouble.

Gamebryo needs to die. Yes, that's said over and over for every new game but this time it's the main reason why Starfield is probably a big flop.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

it's the main reason why Starfield is probably a big flop.

This game will still sell wildly, don't be ridiculous.

 

[anvi]

I predict 200m sales. Then again next year with GOTY version, and again the year after with Ultimate Megawtf Edition.

 

[pOcHa]

Again, I've only just now completed the starting mission, but even this early on I can unequivocally state that if this is the direction Bethesda is heading they're in trouble.

Gamebryo needs to die. Yes, that's said over and over for every new game but this time it's the main reason why Starfield is probably a big flop.

but... but why did you even try it out? it is like giving a blowjob at the gloryhole and then indignantly proclaiming how gay life is not for you after all

i could understand if this was oblivion, or F3, or skyrim, or F4, or TESO, or F76, but now still, really?

todd doesn't care if you take only the tip of his penis, or he goes all the way balls deep into you, he already made you his little bitch, and unless you refund the game right away, you yourself are the decline enabler, and why we can't have nice things anymore...

 

[Sunsetspawn]

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

This game will still sell wildly, don't be ridiculous.

It's already "sold" wildly. Helps when you do a deal with AMD to give everyone who buys a processor a copy.

But I agree with you that Bethesderp fans will buy it regardless. They're conditioned to by now.

King Crispy is right that it's a mess though, and that this sort of thing won't float forever. They need to retire Netimmerse and fire whatever clutter monkeys on their staff who haven't learned to use anything else in their 20 years in game development.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

lol at all the people who thought Todd Howard would save them from wokeness in RPGs.

 

[AwesomeButton]

During the main story mission, when you dock into another ship in outer space for the first time, there is gravity inside. That must be some space magic, because I understand other places don't have gravity?

 

[Lovely Feather Pillow]

lol at all the people who thought Todd Howard would save them from wokeness in RPGs.

Just saw Dr Disrespect got denied privileges due to past controversies. The drama surrounding this game is insane.

 

[The Jester]

Still can't believe they released a game like this without any ground vehicles. No bullshit in-setting explanation as far as I can tell either, Todd just went full Gigachad, refused to include vehicles, and feels compelled to offer no explanation beyond "you have a jetpack".

Meanwhile in Mojave wasteland

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Still can't believe they released a game like this without any ground vehicles. No bullshit in-setting explanation as far as I can tell either, Todd just went full Gigachad, refused to include vehicles, and feels compelled to offer no explanation beyond "you have a jetpack".

The explanation is obvious. The maps are too small.

 

[bobocrunch]

How can you know you aren't gay unless you try it first?

Gotta suck one cock before you are allowed an opinion, sorry bro.

this is more like hating gays but you cruise gay bars and chat up gay guys and then are offended when they want you to be gay

 

[Lemming42]

Screw the Starfield haters! I have a big ship, a ranger's badge, and a girlfriend who's like fifteen years older than me! I'm living the dream!

 

[darkpatriot]

Still can't believe they released a game like this without any ground vehicles. No bullshit in-setting explanation as far as I can tell either, Todd just went full Gigachad, refused to include vehicles, and feels compelled to offer no explanation beyond "you have a jetpack".

Vehicles would potentially have you hit the boundaries of landing zones really quickly. That is why I assume they were left out.

 

[Lemming42]

Alright, this is genuinely quite sweet. Refreshing change of pace after BG3's disappointing "romance" that was all casual sex, kinky jokes, and offensive pornographic shit.

Looks like the romance options in Starfield just let you say nice things like this to them.

 

[xan]

Nah, fuck it I'm getting this (pleb edition of course). If zoomers, bottom-feeding youtubers, and journos hate it there might be something decent here.

Seriously though, some of the criticism is pretty questionable e.g. one reviewer slighted it for not offering neo pronouns, and a few have complained that abilities require perks to unlock. In other words, they hate that you can't do everything, as in Skyrim. But, for me that's reminiscent of Daggerfall (best ES game) where my nightblade is never ever going to wear chain or plate, and magic is best used to turn invisible for 20 secs, backstab and then fall back to the shadows. I can't be an archmage, or warrior, because I didn't pick either of those classes, but I can use magic to supplement my core combat and stealth skills. The strengths and weaknesses of my character, what he can and cannot do, dictate how I play. How can you complain about that in an RPG?

The other big gripes are 'immersion', and that the presence of loading screens implies that things like planets and their surface areas aren't 'really there', or not legitimiate in some undefined way. I mean, it's weird that starfield has provoked these kind of questions about how games are made, but nothing is 'really there' in any game. If I'm stood in whiterun, the rest of skyrim isn't 'really there'. Even so-called 'seamless' traversal across skyrim involves instantiating about 4 cells around my character, loading a new one in front, and unloading another behind. So the difference between actively loading/unloading cells, and having a blunt 'loading' screen is an aesthetic and not material distinction. If this reality fatally injures immersion I hope these people never find out about occlusion culling, and that everything and anything, including their immersive 4k horse shit, is instantly annihilated when out of sight and was never really there to begin with.

I get it that developers should somewhat obfuscate these realities in order to sustain a suspension of disbelief, and maybe Starfield is peculiarly clumsy in how it does this, but these complaints are applying an unusual standard.

 

[darkpatriot]

Again, I've only just now completed the starting mission, but even this early on I can unequivocally state that if this is the direction Bethesda is heading they're in trouble.

Gamebryo needs to die. Yes, that's said over and over for every new game but this time it's the main reason why Starfield is probably a big flop.

The game takes a while to take off. I think this is partly due to Bethesda taking a more realistic approach to content density resulting in a really huge new atlantis. You can easily spend your first 4 to 8 hours just exploring and doing quests in New Atlantis and random exploration on the first planet. I was getting a bit bored of that but once you get onto other stuff it becomes more varied and interesting. Both in terms of gameplay and content.

Which is, again, strange for Bethesda games to do since their games usually take off pretty quicky after a short tutorial.