So, anyone playing League of Legends?

[Darth Roxor]

The entire moba genre is just a severely dumbed down Guild Wars for faggots and womyn anyway, who cares which one sucks less.

 

[Berekän]

Dota 2 requires you to manage a lot more active items than LoL, which I personally don't like / am not capable of doing.

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Dota 2 often requires you to manage a shit ton of units at once, which I personally don't like / am not capable of doing.

Of the 107 heroes on Dota2 about 20~ have a skill that gives you ++units to control, wouldn't say 20% of the time is often. Many of them are just right clickers.

Dota 2 seems to have carried over some nonsense shit from the Warcraft 3 days, like turn speed (and why the fuck is there a "secret shop"?), and obscure mechanics like stacking jungle camps (Dota 2 jungling in general always seemed really hermetic to me).

Turn speed gives mêlée heroes a chance so ranged characters can kite and harass you without any repercussions, so ranged carries aren't as dominant as they're in LoL. Jungle stacking is weird but it gives more strategic options during the game, like delaying the push on the safe lane.

Dota 2 supports are ward spambots, while LoL supports can now actually feel some character progression during the game.

Bullshit. Supports in Dota are a lot more impactful than in LoL. Sure, you may not get as many items as your carry, but you don't need them for good reason.

Dota 2 map is effing huge, and there are way too many moments where you're doing nothing but cruising around the map.

Buy tp's

On Dota 2 it feels specially painful to purchase consumables (fuck town portals), considering you have to complete items before dying since you lose a shit load of gold upon death.

TP's in Dota give a lot more versatility over LoL's just recall and it's not that hard to get money unless you're on a feeding spree.

On Dota 2 people expect you to be able to play just about every single champion. I used to spam undying and people I met in game were like "oh man you need to start playing something different", how about no, I like playing this hero and fuck you

v0v I found quite the contrary, meta isn't as enforced as in LoL, you have much more versatility in what you play.

LoL has a more varied hero/champion design (yes, I know quite a few champions have abilities copied from dota 2, but the rest of them are quite different).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LoL is continuously evolving to become more balanced, diminishing snowballing (making 1 mistake at 5 minutes and you lose the game is not fun) and increasing windows for counterplay, which reduces the amount of noninteractive "get wrecked" moments.

Riot cannot into balance. They're making every hero the same fun sized crap that plays the same and god forbid you if there's a fun champion with a unique playstyle that does what it does a bit better than the rest, for it will get wrecked and abandoned for lack of counterplay. It's one of the many things that ended driving me away from the game.

That said, I can recognize (and accept) that some people just preffer Dota 2, specially because they see a few of theses points as actual strong points for it, specially the first 2. Oh and Dota 2 seems to have a better community, with less children, and in game voice chat.

Both communities are terrible but I can't fucking stand the russians in Dota2. There are a lot of other good points but the fact that Dota2 has a client that doesn't suck huge hairy balls it's good enough.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

Dota2 is the better game but it's not different enough that I'd bother to learn it. Much rather I'd get back to Starcraft 2 if I could quit drinking so much.

Also did 4 out of 5 games so far with Yorick "tank". At least it's a better role designation than the Jayce tank and Udyr mage I've seen so far. I've been picking Triforce on him every game, it's so much more impactful than Iceborn Gauntlet. In general Iceborn Gauntlet seems weak, it's bad on Nidalee too and I'm pretty sure Hecarim, you need very high base damages to make use of it. Had some fun games with him, one where I went Hydra and split pushed all game, another where I'd get caught, pop ult and net 2 kills. Also finally getting comfortable with taking teleport every game, it's pretty lame to see your enemy stick in lane with 200 hp because you have 0 burst, but hopefully junglers will get better at tower diving.

Try AD runes, 21/9 doran sword Yorick, the extra damage helps so much and he's never gonna die anyway so what's the point of tank masteries. Yorick is strong again especially now that powerful AA based ADC's are OP. I sure like playing him vs. ranged, it's funny how you respond to their harass by chunking their health while not really stopping your farming. Then they get more and more frustrated and try to force you out of lane but you just laugh and last hit.

I've been pretty lucky with him in that I haven't had fail ADC's in my Yorick games, sure he gets ridiculously tanky and has okay melee range sustained damage but that enemy Ryze is gonna roll hard if your double ADC isn't doing enough damage.

His "gank - you mean double kill" shit is still the funniest thing about him, I'm always laughing aloud when LeeShit tries to be cool in my minions and just gets a shovel to the face while I basically ignore the other laner with my sustain tankiness.

Anybody else seen Amumu carrys? Every mumu I'm up against lately goes AP and magpen with some tanky items thrown in late game.

IMO it's the strongest Amumu build, his CC buys him time to deal damage, and he deals lots of it especially to tanks.

 

[Renegen]

Bro of course I go 21/9, and dorans sword when I can get away with it. I still like the crazy sustain and gold value from a flask against ranged. I haven't really been ulting the adc yet, I mostly just build a lot of damage and ult myself... sure I pick Yorick because it's good for the team, yeah...

His damage really can be quite surprising. You can beat Tryndameres, Yasuos, Ryzes and many more. With a dorans blade, I've seen Yoricks get lvl 2 kill on Renekton (traditionally one of his best counters), he's quite high skill cap if you use everything correctly and can win most lanes. And of course very versatile, that revive ult is one of the best in the game. With it for example, you can facecheck a baron pit with 5 people, eat all their cooldowns, come back and fuck em up. In fact I did that with a Master Yi Jungle, 2v5d them. The Teleport meta is also better for Yorick I think, sure Ignite allows him to destroy his lane opponent, but teleport allows you to never run out of mana and recover from a disastrous gank, his teleport ganks are also decent and he can split push.

 

[Jozoz]

I lost in the semifinals, damn it!

Still top 4 though, so I'm not too sad!

 

[Markman]

I missed your match by 10-15 min then. I watched the stream when the other semis played.

 

[OmniSlacker]

Uh, I'm only level 23 and don't ever intend on playing ranked or taking the game that seriously. As such, I barely understand what everyone is talking about here, so I'm just gonna leave my IGN here. If ya wanna play casually, feel free to add me: OmniSlacker (NA)

 

[Farage]

Why comparing Dota2 to LoL?

Everytime i see ppl comparing Dota2 to LoL it reminds me of this:

"LoL is moba. Dota2 is moba too but Dota2 is not a fucker"

 

[markec]

I see people here play Yorick, I have been playing few game here and there with him but Im thinking in making him my top main so i could use some advice. This is last game I had with him http://matchhistory.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUN1/905463163/36954218 I usually start with faerie charm, 5 mana potions and 2 health potions, I use this to spam skills and hard bully enemy champ in early game.

 

[Markman]

Wow, this chat restrict bullshit makes me send an angry email to Rito. Played one(1) game after it ended with no restrictions, didnt even got the time to flame anyone and I got another 14 games of chat restriction. Fuck you Rito.
Also a fast demotion(5 out of 6 lost) as usual as the retard train keeps rolling.

 

[Renegen]

The main advantage of a faerie charm start on Yorick is that you get to buy a 3 minute ward and be hyper aggressive all early laning phase. I stopped doing it because it's smart to base when you have enough for an early tear anyway and a trinket ward does that well. Your item build is ok but if you go Frozen Mallet you'll really suffer in terms of defensive stats so it's not a good idea to combo it with lucidity boots and Triforce. Besides that, I see that you didn't actually kill your laning opponent (Malphite) or deny him much cs, you want to get really good at controlling the minion wave and making it push towards your tower so you can freeze it there and deny him cs/exp. Don't worry, if you are bad at it you'll be perma-ganked.

Malphite for example if he wants to trade has to use his E and if you trade smartly with him, he will E your minions and end up pushing things in your direction. So what you could've done is walk up to Malphite when he cses, hit him with a shovel, maybe a Q, then an E and back off. Max E if you just want to harass the enemy hard and put more points in Q if you have to all-in people, against Malphite maxing E would've been good. The Malphite played really bad I imagine, he should've bought a chalice and I think it's a tough lane for Yorick, your early item choices for him are Manamune, boots and Specter's Cowl. Then you could've gotten a Banshees against Malphite/Warwick/Teemo and finished it off with Frozen Heart/Triforce first depending how the game goes.

 

[Markman]

Yorick isnt easy to lane against, as Malphite usually let him push to the tower, harrass with Q, when your Malph is 6, get him to half health and instagib with ult. Then go back, buy Sheen and instagib again. Early Sheen could work with Yorick too cause of his Q and you have a decent slow on W if I remember correctly. Autoattacking is something alot of people forget with most of the champions, like its reserved for minions only.
But that game he posted isnt much to talk about cause there were no real resistance. If you want to learn a champ you gotta play ranked to see if he's viable. Its all fun and games till you lane against a dude that plays on his comfort pick and tryhards to win.
Dont remember who it was pwning scrubs with Quinn top on normals but in rankeds he got a different outcome.

 

[Renegen]

A lot of Yoricks get an early Phage instead of an early Sheen, it also helps autoattacking people but it also has AD for last hitting under tower and HP for all ins.

 

[Erzherzog]

So I've seen some head scratching mid picks suddenly become popular. First Xerath, now Zilean. Apparently EU and NA are just copying Faker's recent picks. So I'm being a sheep to the NA pros who are being a sheep to our Korean LoL-gods.

However, I am still absolutely in love with Xerath mid. 5 and 0 so far but what I love best is even when I lose lane, the pure statistical damage I put out. This last game went well where I hard carried against Kassaderp, and put out over a quarter of the damage that was dealt overall, was 300 off from being 10,000 damage ahead of the next highest champion and I put out only about 2-3K less damage than the enire other team combined! I was able to take the enemy ADC dwn to 300 health with just my Q and W, enemy team blamed trist but for what? Not her fault I can literally bypass the tank line and zone Trist outside the teamfight radius.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1478997244/44226535

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1472958948/44226535 <- Did poorly in lane but still contributed largely to team damage totals.

And what I love best is how well he works in the current soloqueue meta. Leona, Thresh, and Braum are all popular support picks, and tanks/tanky fighters are the rage top and catching on in the jungle. And I just ignore them freely. A fed Xerath means being able to siege turrets as if you had baron, it's unreal. I am conscious though of about a half dozen other champions that I felt were my new es numero uno, most recently Ryze (worked so much better against the Jax/Trundle/Shyvana meta, but that's out of vogue so now I still like him but he's far moresituational.) Hopefully I can just keep riding this. I still suck at farming but at the very least Xerath is up there with my best farming champions, and I make enough gold to always have room to buy wards, so I'm warding a lot more and feeling far less bad about the whole warding experience. Especially when you get cheesy jungle kills from mid lane thanks to wards.

I'm still learning a lot, tons of derps with my ult, and I don't trade out my ward trinket for a scrying trinket in mid game when I should. I'm also concerned that he will get nerfed. His passive is awesome and helps him win trades when enemies dive him, but honestly if you get a Chalice mana problems are not THAT serious so I see something regarding mana getting hit, assuming he starts to really catch on in pro play.

 

[Twiglard]

Just play Marisa exclusively like I do and use the only non-aesthetically-insulting skin there is. No, not the Sorc revamp with prosthetic lance hand.

Double rainbow, what does it mean?

 

[Drew]

Support Zyra

 

[Gay-Lussac]

I can't bring myself to pick up a crucible, although it seems to be one the best support items. I just know it'll often sit on my inventory, cause I'll forget to use it.

What with the tabis on an AP support, though?

 

[Twiglard]

Drew:

What's this shit I don't even. Whole team good KDA, other team: ori[1] mid 76 cs no ap, thresh ad no ad.

That wasn't a good game. It's like playing chess against someone who merely knows which moves are valid (like me). Having fun against feeders? Gonna be sick of it soon.

Support build: take spellthief's edge or (nerfed to hell) coin, then sell it once can affort chalice. Build into athene.

But the hell I know, only play Marisa. Spent RP on Sorc skin, then it got replaced with prosthetic lance hand thing. Eligible for refund? If ask them nicely?

Wonder if any CDS lords of nutrition

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Markman:

I look at dota2, then see the champion names. 90% names are 2-word character concept OR what the character does. This doesn't seem significant, but how can have a main character or even interest in dota if this is all colorless formless bullshit? Also their lore entries are even _worse_ than "lol" lore entries, which is quite an achievement in cringeworthiness.

"LoL" community also better than dota2 community. Interact with retards you won't meet ever again, every 10 games meet someone of whom with certainty can say it's not a retard. Where else can the codex bunch develop oft-needed thick skin and how to deal with adversity? Unless some Codex University post-doc gives lessons in autism, you should be taking notes of your "LoL" encounters.

Markman:

As for chat restriction, people say Tribunal down and complaint volume leads to just that. Lower volume just warnings. So just report the other 9 people arbitrarily. The data isn't even stored for later so no one can call the report-er for it.

Double rainbow, what does it mean?

[1] What a choice on ori SP boots. 40 AP from athene was it? Ionian for 35-40 cdr.

 

[Renegen]

Support Zyra #1 gold in the game, gotta love that. It even happened in the LCS last week, Krepo had more gold than his mid laner despite having no cs, balanced.

I guess you can carry as support in wood 5.

 

[Drew]

I can't bring myself to pick up a crucible, although it seems to be one the best support items. I just know it'll often sit on my inventory, cause I'll forget to use it.

What with the tabis on an AP support, though?

Only one who did damage was Trynd, and all of them have some sort of AA enhancer.

Drew:

What's this shit I don't even. Whole team good KDA, other team: ori[1] mid 76 cs no ap, thresh ad no ad.

That wasn't a good game. It's like playing chess against someone who merely knows which moves are valid (like me). Having fun against feeders? Gonna be sick of it soon.

Support build: take spellthief's edge or (nerfed to hell) coin, then sell it once can affort chalice. Build into athene.

Oh, no, it was a completely one sided stomp. I was just amused that I ended up with the most gold.

 

[Jozoz]

I just lost what feels like 10 million games in a row.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I just lost what feels like 10 million games in a row.

Better lose some more then so you can get to hell elo where nothing makes any sense anymore.

 

[Erzherzog]

I just lost what feels like 10 million games in a row.

Better lose some more then so you can get to hell elo where nothing makes any sense anymore.

I just had a 7 game win streak followed by a 6 game losing streak, the first 2 being promo games where the same guy in both insisted that he play Teemo, didn't care where but he HAD to be Teemo. The next 3 were ones where I had afks, and the last one was a kid playing on big brothers account.

I uninstalled. I'll likely play again but the next couple weeks I NEED to not play league. We found a guy at work that has gotten to plat 1 though, and a couple of my coworkers that would never listen to me listen to him. Go figure. (This means no more duo top, which means games with my friends will be much more fun.)

 

[Twiglard]

Etrzhe:

Ragequit so easily? Having a bad time period?

Switched from EUNE to EUW due to less nonsense, not 30 so far. Losing normal queue games for all the usual reasons. Be glad that your match history isn't filled with 6/5 losses.

Plat, Diamond, makes sense. People from silver/gold in general start making sense and not be antisocial pariahs.

Join the sensible community part on unofficial "LoL" IRC channel. Rest of the "LoL" services just a trap to make people distressed. 'Cept diamond and plat maybe.

Edit: Only game a victory, 4/2. Losses include 6/8, 5/6, 4/6, 7/10, 4/2, 3/1. I'm a support due to instapickers.

 

[Markman]

KDA doesnt mean shit unless you're 10/0 as a carry/jungler or have twice the cs of the opponent carry. Global gold like dragons, turrets, assists will net you alot more money.
Being 5-0 as a support just means you gimped your carry a bit, and will have to make it up trying to snowball the game with global objectives and take advantage of it in teamfights till the other side evens up.
Focusing only on KDA will get you nowhere, focus on gaining something from that kill like a turret/buff/dragon or atleast put some wards into their jungle instead of recalling spending that extra gold.
Playing as support means that you HAVE to make plays to keep your carry safe or help him make a kill. Its about improving his KDA, not yours. But the better his KDA is, yours will be better too.