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Utgard-Loki

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so it is. i clearly wasn't looking too closely at the charts and instead was searching the site for "cpu" and "processor".

that looks really awful.
 

soulburner

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The crypto market just boomed hard this week, expect gpu prices to multiply again soon.
And since AMD is completely unable to create real competition, Nvidia will suck you dry.
Enjoy.
AMD Graphic cards are already better than Nvidia, it's just that their drivers suck ass.
The drivers situation has been pretty much the other way around for years now. While driver stability is a non-issue on both, when it comes to bugs and features AMD has been on top. For example, for several months Nvidia drivers had a bug on Ada GPUs where they messed up the idle power management causing the UI of Windows (and stuff like web browsers) to have a crazy amount of stutter or full blown artifacts (Chromium browsers). The Nvidia settings app has been ugly and slow for years and it's only been changed yesterday with the official release of the Nvidia App, which is still not bundled with their installer by default, as far as I'm aware. It's ugly, it's huge, but it's fast and has most of the settings in logical places. The AMD control panel is also ugly and big, but seems it has more features.

The main issue with AMD cards is their extra features. DLSS upscaling, frame generation and ray reconstruction are still much, much better than FSR. There's also the problem of ray tracing, where if you want to take a look at it you need an RTX 4070 to be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 with DLSS and framegen on. You can forget about path tracing on a Radeon. They're considered great rasterization GPUs for a reason. There is a chance the new RDNA4 chips will offer some great RT performance but AMD is not planning to compete with the highest end this time around and RTX 50 series are also around the corner. Unless AMD does something magical with upscaling/frame generation/ray reconstruction we will stay with Nvidia dominance for a while.

While AMD will try to compete in the low and mid end part of the GPU market, we have to keep in mind that discrete graphic cards are only about 2% of their total revenue, so there is not much incentive to put too much money for R&D here.
 
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cvv

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
AMD Graphic cards are already better than Nvidia, it's just that their drivers suck ass.
The drivers situation has been pretty much the other way around for years now.
Memes die slowly do they. IIRC the last time AMD had real issues with drivers was back in the HD era, that like 10+ years ago.

I've always used Radeon cards, with one exception (my 1070 was the best card I've ever had), because the value-for-money was always so much better. But lately AMD followed Nvidia into the retardoland and they're pissing me off.

Fucking cryptos and Americans with more money than sense drove the prices into batshit insanity.

I still remember when we thought 500 bucks for 1090 Ti was fucking ridiculous. And look at us now.
 

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IIRC the last time AMD had real issues with drivers was back in the HD era, that like 10+ years ago.
Try more like 1 year ago
A friend of mine bought a 7900XT in early 2023, it was late spring or early summer that his troubles with AMD drivers started
Basically the next 6 months almost everytime we talked, he would bitch about AMD and their shit drivers (specially during that 1 month were we couldn't even play Counter-Strike 2)
This almost became a running gag on our discord group...
In the end he completely forsworn AMD GPU's
Now he's just waiting for the RTX 5000 series to drop and I wouldn't be surprised if he pre-ordered the 5080 on the first day, as he already said he would rather pay the "Nvidia tax" than deal with the above shit ever again.

Personally, while I've also had multiple driver problems over the years with my own RX480, in the end it doesn't bother me much and overall I'm happy with the service it provided me over the years
And if the rumors that the RDNA4 8800XT has equivalent performance to a 4080 Super for no more than 800€ turn out to be true, I'm not even going to think twice before I buy it


Still, this meme (despite being 10+ years old) will forever be relevant:

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whydoibother

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IIRC the last time AMD had real issues with drivers was back in the HD era, that like 10+ years ago.
Try more like 1 year ago
A friend of mine bought a 7900XT in early 2023, it was late spring or early summer that his troubles with AMD drivers started
Basically the next 6 months almost everytime we talked, he would bitch about AMD and their shit drivers (specially during that 1 month were we couldn't even play Counter-Strike)
He has forsworn AMD GPU's
Now he's just waiting for the RTX 5000 series to drop and I wouldn't be surprised if he pre-ordered the 5080 on the first day, as he already said he would rather pay the "Nvidia tax" than deal with the above shit ever again.

Personally, while I've also had multiple driver problems over the years with my own RX480, in the end it doesn't bother me much
If the rumors are true and the RDNA4 8800XT has equivalent performance to a 4080 Super for no more than 800€, I'm not even going to think twice before I buy it


But this meme, despite being 10+ years old, will forever be relevant:

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The meme that scared me away from mining early Bitcoin, because those 100C+ temps on the new nVidia card that cost me a whole month's wages were very spooky.
 

soutaiseiriron

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Considering the above graphs show that the game is CPU bottlenecked, somehow I doubt it has that kind of scalability.
basically everything on UE5 using nanite is CPU bottlenecked
34fps on a 4060 on dlss quality max settings is pretty alright. as long as it's not crazy stuttery, this isn't looking like a horribly optimized game to me, it just looks like an average high end ue5 game.
 

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Iucounu

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Considering the above graphs show that the game is CPU bottlenecked, somehow I doubt it has that kind of scalability.
basically everything on UE5 using nanite is CPU bottlenecked
34fps on a 4060 on dlss quality max settings is pretty alright. as long as it's not crazy stuttery, this isn't looking like a horribly optimized game to me, it just looks like an average high end ue5 game.
Since these appear to be Nvidias own figures I take them with a pinch of salt. What does "average frames per second" even mean --is it average for the whole game, or just some cherrypicked part?
 
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AMD Graphic cards are already better than Nvidia, it's just that their drivers suck ass.
The drivers situation has been pretty much the other way around for years now.
Memes die slowly do they. IIRC the last time AMD had real issues with drivers was back in the HD era, that like 10+ years ago.
Cope. They die slowly when the reason they exist never goes away.



AyyMD will always be Nvidia's lilbro and forever playing catchup whether it be features or quality. If you want to do anything AI related or not have problems with shitty drivers there's not even a question of what to purchase. You can't even use AyyMD without getting banned in various games lmao




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And let's not forget the chinesium bike that shears off during normal use and can impale you:

 

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