Vapourware RPGs that can legitimately be called masterpieces

[JarlFrank]

He's not vulgar, just peak Bulgar.

 

[fantadomat]

He's not vulgar, just peak Bulgar.

Not even peak,haven't even fucked anyone's mum yet or stolen their donkey . Lilura is just one of the few real females on the codex,shame that she doesn't want to post some feet pics.

 

[Viata]

few real females on the codex

 

[Viata]

Everyday the number of tags this thread has increases.

 

[Lilura]

He's not vulgar, just peak Bulgar.

He's said some rather revolting things, though. Guy should tone it down a bit in General RPG.

 

[fantadomat]

He's not vulgar, just peak Bulgar.

He's said some rather revolting things, though. Guy should tone it down a bit in General RPG.

LoL curious,what made you so butthurt?!

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

Blobber combat is inferior to Isometric games,in isometric games you can position your party,block enemy path,kite enemies,there's also things like movement points,fog of war,range and area of effect attacks...it's much more tactical.Blobber combat however,is a lot more about RNG.

The AI is less cheeseable in blobber combat though.

 

[octavius]

Isometric is only superior is if it's actually good (and no, RTwP does not make it bad). Otherwise quick blobber combat is superior.

 

[fantadomat]

Blobber combat is inferior to Isometric games,in isometric games you can position your party,block enemy path,kite enemies,there's also things like movement points,fog of war,range and area of effect attacks...it's much more tactical.Blobber combat however,is a lot more about RNG.

The AI is less cheeseable in blobber combat though.

Which blobber combat lol? Most of them have either turnbased combat or a phase based where both parties move at x time. Tho i do agree that rtwp is generally the most tactical combat.

 

[Citizen]

Blobber combat is inferior to Isometric games,in isometric games you can position your party,block enemy path,kite enemies,there's also things like movement points,range and area of effect attacks...it's much more tactical.Blobber combat however,is a lot more about RNG.

What about wiz8 where you have movement points, can position party members, block enemy path and use area of effect attacks?

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

Blobber combat is inferior to Isometric games,in isometric games you can position your party,block enemy path,kite enemies,there's also things like movement points,range and area of effect attacks...it's much more tactical.Blobber combat however,is a lot more about RNG.

What about wiz8 where you have movement points, can position party members, block enemy path and use area of effect attacks?

I don't know,i've never played wizardry 8.I did play a bit of wizardry 6 and 7,their combat seems to be worse than isometric RPGs,i have very little control over the outcome of a battle in Wiz6&7,is most decided by RNG.

 

[fantadomat]

Blobber combat is inferior to Isometric games,in isometric games you can position your party,block enemy path,kite enemies,there's also things like movement points,range and area of effect attacks...it's much more tactical.Blobber combat however,is a lot more about RNG.

What about wiz8 where you have movement points, can position party members, block enemy path and use area of effect attacks?

and had to wait for half an hour for a trash fight to end.....and then get another one 5 steps later

 

[Citizen]

and had to wait for half an hour for a trash fight to end.....and then get another one 5 steps later

Mods will fix already fixed that!

 

[fantadomat]

and had to wait for half an hour for a trash fight to end.....and then get another one 5 steps later

Mods will fix already fixed that!

I know that mate,also you could always use cheatengine. Still it was a major flaw of the original,it made the game unplayable because of how slow the animation was and how the enemy were sponges. It is just fair to point it out,since we are talking about original combat mechanics and not what was fixed by mods.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

Isometric is only superior is if it's actually good (and no, RTwP does not make it bad). Otherwise quick blobber combat is superior.

Agree,fallout 1 is a example of meh isometric combat,where is most decided by RNG and you have very little control over the outcome of a battle.

But a good isometric combat like Xcom,FF tactics,Jagged Alliance and Gold box games is the best type of combat.

 

[Valky]

Anyone here think HoMM3 is a masterpiece?

It's just that I'm trying to find meaning in my current playthrough. Wealth accumulation and power progression seem all-2-EZ.

It is a good game but for your prestigious search there is nothing wrong with you dropping it. You should instead try out Eador Genesis and Age of Wonders, they are vastly superior TBS games.

 

[Sreggin Etah I]

and had to wait for half an hour for a trash fight to end.....and then get another one 5 steps later

Mods will fix already fixed that!

I know that mate,also you could always use cheatengine. Still it was a major flaw of the original,it made the game unplayable because of how slow the animation was and how the enemy were sponges. It is just fair to point it out,since we are talking about original combat mechanics and not what was fixed by mods.

Is really that bad ? how much time it takes to finish Wiz8 with and without Wiz8fast ?

 

[fantadomat]

Eador Genesis

not really,the game have good core but it lacks any progress outside of the mission maps,it gets old fast.

 

[fantadomat]

and had to wait for half an hour for a trash fight to end.....and then get another one 5 steps later

Mods will fix already fixed that!

I know that mate,also you could always use cheatengine. Still it was a major flaw of the original,it made the game unplayable because of how slow the animation was and how the enemy were sponges. It is just fair to point it out,since we are talking about original combat mechanics and not what was fixed by mods.

Is really that bad ? how much time it takes to finish Wiz8 with and without Wiz8fast ?

Have no idea,never managed to finish it without fast cheats. I remember getting like 10-15 minutes of a trash fights. It was really slow and annoying,and that was during my time where i didn't notice such things.

 

[Citizen]

Is really that bad ? how much time it takes to finish Wiz8 with and without Wiz8fast ?

I wish someone who did that could tell you, but they are still in progress

Even with mod it's a huge game, like 60-80 hours I think

 

[Roguey]

Meh, I'm a gamer first and foremost. I'm actually more knowledgeble on, say, Amiga, Genesis and SNES games (all genre) than I am about Renaissance-era RPGs. If the game scratches similar itches as "pure" RPGs do, who cares?

I'm interested in infodumps on Genesis and SNES games.

 

[Comte]

Meh, I'm a gamer first and foremost. I'm actually more knowledgeble on, say, Amiga, Genesis and SNES games (all genre) than I am about Renaissance-era RPGs. If the game scratches similar itches as "pure" RPGs do, who cares?

I'm interested in infodumps on Genesis and SNES games.

I figure snes and genesis infodumps would probably bring more traffic. Soy Boys and Bug men would flock to the blog.

 

[Grimwulf]

not really,the game have good core but it lacks any progress outside of the mission maps,it gets old fast.

Vanilla Eador is a slog and time-waster. Playing Eador: Genesis without New Horizons installed is like playing NWN 1 for the original campaign.

 

[Lilura]

Isometric is only superior is if it's actually good (and no, RTwP does not make it bad). Otherwise quick blobber combat is superior.

Isometric is always superior in >=API/Renaissance era.

Extreme example to illustrate point: Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor and Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader are more playable than Wizardry 8.

 

[Cryomancer]

Extreme example to illustrate point: Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor and Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader are more playable than Wizardry 8.

Wizardry 8 has slow as **** animations.

Might & Magic VI is a good first person game...