Community RPG Codex 2014 Role-Playing Game of the Year Awards

[V_K]

Because of this list, I will slit my own throat. Happy now?

Well, if you live stream the process....

 

[Viata]

Complaining about HQ is quite obvious. The underdog, which no one really expected to be top 20 let alone top 10, is above WL2, the game people thought were going to bring cRPG back. Still, can't see why get mad for that. It's not like WL2 would get better/worse for not being above another game in a top list.

 

[Stelcio]

In order to have a complete set of data then each voter would have to play all games and rate each one of them. Only then the data set would be complete.

Of course this is not possible because people will not play all the shit from that list. But there are other way to make sure that the input data is *somewhat* correct.

Allowing to any retard to vote on a unspecified number of games is simply retarded. The data set is far from complete therefore the results are shit.

Edited from "correct" to "*somewhat* correct", huh? Well 1245 people called the results of correcting the input data with bayesian average "somewhat correct" by deciding to cast their vote. And here you are, alone or maybe with few supporters, claiming otherwise. Well, the numbers are certainly not in your favor in this matter.

Also funny how for two pages now you only insult people and spit on their effort, but suddenly you claim there are ways to make it right, but of course you don't share them. Some might point out errors in your way as well, and as we know, never fails the one, who does nothing, right? That must be your case.

Yes, I'm very butthurt about your fantasies.

The thing is you are just a poseur ... a pathetic one I might add. Do you think that adding codex memes to your posts is validating them or some shit?

How is it a fantasy, if you only argue about one certain case, W2 vs HsQ, and not about the survey in its entirety, while the same methodology was used in regards to every game on the list? The one particular case of Wasteland 2 being lower than some Heroine's Quest is what stings you. You just can't stand it, can you. So you try to undermine the credibility of this survey, just to prove one personal point...

"MY WASTELAND 2 CAN'T BE LOWER THAN SOME HEROINE'S QUEST, BOO HOO!"

 

[Riel]

I didn't find that poll in time. I wish it had a quest compass

 

[Turjan]

Nice article. Thanks everyone involved for the work put into this.

So, the results on the first places were less surprising than expected and mirrored the general sentiment on the forums. Pretty fitting. I guess me being happy makes sense as places #1 and #2 fit my votes.

 

[toro]

-9%, meaning that the correlation between them isn't noteworthy in any way.

If you can't even read a basic correlation matrix, you probably shouldn't be talking out of your ass about survey methodology...

"Basic correlation matrix" -

The data you computed has no meaning that's why you cannot explain it. Fucking moron.

There is no direct correlation between the games therefore the original statistic is saying only the following things:

• 49% from the 906 people which voted for Divinity: Original Sin were happy with the game.
• 43% from the 606 people which voted with Shadowrun: Dragonfall - Director's Cut were happy with the game.
• and so on.

But you had to go an extra mile and proclaim that this shit is a proof that Divinity: Original Sin is a better game than Shadowrun: Dragonfall or that Heroine's Quest is better than Wasteland 2 and so on.

 

[Turjan]

"Basic correlation matrix" -

The data you computed has no meaning that's why you cannot explain it.

It's obvious what the correlation means in this case. Don't play dumb.

 

[toro]

It's obvious what the correlation means in this case. Don't play dumb.

Please explain. All my orifices are wide open.

 

[Volrath]

Such glorious butthurt

 

[Black]

Now this is RPG Codex Awards!

 

[toro]

Edited from "correct" to "*somewhat* correct", huh? Well 1245 people called the results of correcting the input data with bayesian average "somewhat correct" by deciding to cast their vote. And here you are, alone or maybe with few supporters, claiming otherwise. Well, the numbers are certainly not in your favor in this matter.

Yes. I did correct my post. Problem?

1245 did not call shit. Do you speak for them?

Also funny how for two pages now you only insult people and spit on their effort, but suddenly you claim there are ways to make it right, but of course you don't share them. Some might point out errors in your way as well, and as we know, never fails the one, who does nothing, right? That must be your case.

I think you started with the faggot shit.

What is the error in my way?

How is it a fantasy, if you only argue about one certain case, W2 vs HsQ, and not about the survey in its entirety, while the same methodology was used in regards to every game on the list? The one particular case of Wasteland 2 being lower than some Heroine's Quest is what stings you. You just can't stand it, can you. So you try to undermine the credibility of this survey, just to prove one personal point...

"MY WASTELAND 2 CAN'T BE LOWER THAN SOME HEROINE'S QUEST, BOO HOO!"

"credibility of this survey"

 

[Darth Roxor]

hiver had the same avatar as you once

i'm seeing a Correlation (tm)

 

[SCO]

Rosh had a deathclaw avatar too, it's like assholes can't get over the first time they were raped by that lone deathclaw in fallout. Transference maybe.

 

[Jaesun]

Rosh should be the only person on the codex that should have that avatar.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Oh man, I had so much trouble doing this survey, and all I had to do was ask you! Next year we should just use the "Onholyservicebound got interested or not" criteria, that's clearly all there is to the popularity of a game.

Seriously, what an ego trip...

Don't be a retard, it wasn't about me specifically. The point is that the games are underplayed because they are unappealing to the majority of codexers. Implying that that's a good thing is a lot more egotistical than implying that it isn't.

how many people are, um, "dedicated" enough to vote 15 times (e.g. Andhaira, you, and maybe a few others.)

Nah, I say that at least 100 users were bored, , or butthurt enough to vote at least 10 times each. Doesn't require dedication, drop by whenever you get a notification and click a few circles. Is it a blatant overestimation? Probably, but it's as founded as your guess.
If it required making an alt, or switching your IP, or even deleting cookies, that would be dedication, this takes as much dedication as a brofist or loading a page.


Ideally the results should have people lamenting the direction of the Codex and it's shit taste, as opposed to critiquing the flawed methodology of the survey.
Anyway, shit poll, but the results are decent, so I'm done taking the piss.

 

[Darth Roxor]

rosh's was brown

 

[toro]

hiver had the same avatar as you once

i'm seeing a Correlation (tm)

Coincidence.

Rosh should be the only person on the codex that should have that avatar.

Agree.

 

[felipepepe]

Don't be a retard, it wasn't about me specifically. The point is that the games are underplayed because they are unappealing to the majority of codexers.

Really? So things like price, date of release and publicity don't matter? Do you really think that South Park and Diablo III got more way more play than NEO Scavenger or Xulima because they are more appealing to the Codex?

Just take a look at how many people in this thread and at NeoGAF read and said "never heard about NEO Scavenger, gonna try it!". You're mistaking popularity with appeal, which is absurd.

 

[pyroary]

Didn't vote in the awards for obvious reasons, but I have to say this is a solid top 10 list. Great work everyone involved, and great games in the top 10 as well.

Also I'm happy this poll proved that my game is the best 3/5 in gaming!

 

[Stelcio]

1245 did not call shit. Do you speak for them?

Their actions speak for them. It's clear that if someone votes and the way of compiling the results from the votes is openly presented, then this person is ok with this particular way of compiling the results. But such a selfcentric moron as yourself couldn't even figure such a basic correlation. Shows how much you know of 'em.

What is the error in my way?

You don't have any way. You just claim out of your ass that there are ways to make data correct (or "somewhat correct", wharever that means in your book). Still you have presented none, but you play all smart and knowing to make your point anyhow holding up. It isn't, you can now stop with your BS.

And no real aswer to my unveiling of your true motivation only proves it true. Cry more, my shoulder is free.

Don't be a retard, it wasn't about me specifically. The point is that the games are underplayed because they are unappealing to the majority of codexers. Implying that that's a good thing is a lot more egotistical than implying that it isn't.

Why don't you stop being a retard instead? If you stopped earlier, you'd understand the first time I told that there is no connection between popularity and quality. Trying to prove otherwise is rather futile on these boards.

But not only you remained in your previous retardation, you went even further. Now you claim with total certainty that games got less ratings precisely because they were unappealing, not for any single other reason.

 

[toro]

Their actions speak for them. It's clear that if someone votes and the way of compiling the results from the votes is openly presented, then this person is ok with this particular way of compiling the results. But such a selfcentric moron as yourself couldn't even figure such a basic correlation. Shows how much you know of 'em.

No, it's not clear. It seems that between of us, you are the only one working with absolute statements.

You don't have any way. You just claim out of your ass that there are ways to make data correct (or "somewhat correct", wharever that means in your book). Still you have presented none, but you play all smart and knowing to make your point anyhow holding up. It isn't, you can now stop with your BS.

And no real aswer to my unveiling of your true motivation only proves it true. Cry more, my shoulder is free.

No answer doesn't prove anything. I already told you that "Allowing to any retard to vote on a unspecified number of games is simply retarded. The data set is far from complete therefore the results are shit." but I guess you'll never address this.

Why don't you stop being a retard instead? If you stopped earlier, you'd understand the first time I told that there is no connection between popularity and quality. Trying to prove otherwise is rather futile on these boards.

But not only you remained in your previous retardation, you went even further. Now you claim with total certainty that games got less ratings precisely because they were unappealing, not for any single other reason.

I did not state anywhere that quality correlates with popularity and I did not discuss about this. Check the logs.

I simply stated that because input data is shit then the poll results are shit and that's it. For me it seems that you are unable to accept this different opinion.

 

[supervoid]

Statistical analysis says that there is no significant differences between W2 and HQ results, deal with it.

Spoiler

(p>0,4 in U, I was curious, don't judge me)

 

[Scroo]

Not a bad list. So many great games I have yet to play / finish. And what am I doing instead? Playing WoW. Someone shoot me please.

 

[toro]

Statistical analysis says that there is no significant differences between W2 and HQ results, deal with it.

Spoiler

(p>0,4 in U, I was curious, don't judge me)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value

Despite the ubiquity of p-value tests, this particular test for statistical significance has been criticized for its inherent shortcomings and the potential for misinterpretation.

The data obtained by comparing the p-value to a significance level will yield one of two results: either the null hypothesis is rejected, or the null hypothesis cannot be rejected at that significance level (which however does not imply that the null hypothesis is true). In Fisher's formulation, there is a disjunction: a low p-value means either that the null hypothesis is true and a highly improbable event has occurred, or that the null hypothesis is false.

However, people interpret the p-value in many incorrect ways, and try to draw other conclusions from p-values, which do not follow.

 

[Stelcio]

I did not state anywhere that quality correlates with popularity and I did not discuss about this. Check the logs.

Well check the logs yourself, you idiot. This wasn't an answer to you.

The good news is that I finally figured out why you are being such a dumbfuck. Here is why:

But you had to go an extra mile and proclaim that this shit is a proof that Divinity: Original Sin is a better game than Shadowrun: Dragonfall or that Heroine's Quest is better than Wasteland 2 and so on.

You moron think that the whole purpose of this survey was to prove something. That it was meant as an actual scientific attempt to place those games in order from absolutely the best to absolutely the worst. Well, news at 11, IT WASN'T, you fucking aspie. It's a fucking CONTEST and as such it has some ARBITRARY rules to provide an outcome. Desireably a believable one as a reflection of common taste of Codex' readers aka Kodex Kritikal Konsensus, not by any means a perfect, universal and undeniable ranking of these games. But the rules were clear from the start and the verdict is final. Stop being an obssessed faggot and deal with it.