Rome Total War II

[Spectacle]

I'm not sure those stats are just reviewers, probably some developer and publisher people too. I saw in the stats further down that 0,4% had the achievement for playing for more than 500 hours, that is almost 3 weeks. I have a hard time believing any reviewer has had time to play that much since the review copies were handed out, even if he left the game turned on 24/7.

 

[Raghar]

Majority of these under 1 hours are probably Valve workers, and Starforce people testing things. Which is why I said 2/3 of reviewers.

 

[Spectacle]

Majority of these under 1 hours are probably Valve workers, and Starforce people testing things. Which is why I said 2/3 of reviewers.

Exactly how did you come up with that number? I don't get it...

 

[titus]

Aaaand... cracked.

 

[Raghar]

It's simple. 32 were who played it at least one hour. 20 were these who played iit at least 10 hours. Ripping images for review is time consuming work and they probably left it open on background. In addition reviewers often at least take notes, which increases that time they left the game open on background.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

 

[Declinator]

I just played MTW1 for the first time and I must say...are the people who say that one has better AI smoking something really strong or do they just mean the campaign AI?

First, I played a random battle which ended quickly and I thought that I must have had a lot better army than the AI. Then I fought a custom battle with my army being England and the AI France with the exact same units (i.e. 4 Chivalric Knights, 6 Chivalric Men-at-Arms (or something like that) and 4 Archers.) No promotions on anyone, exactly the same amount of florins used and both sides with a Knight being the general.

I won the battle in less than two minutes. Seriously, less than two minutes (1 minute and 52 seconds.)

I thought okay, surely the normal difficult is gimped and the hard is where the real stuff is and fought that same battle on hard.

I won it in three minutes with 4:1 kill ratio...
The AI doesn't seem to know what to do with archers at all and seems to favor all out frontal charges with cavalry and after they run away they send out infantry. The AI units seem to start running away very fast though I think it doesn't necessarily mean they routed.

I have fought a similar custom battle in MTW2 and Stainless Steel and there is no comparison (both were much longer and tougher battles but especially SS thought they too are obviously quite easily winnable battles)

Is there some sort of mistake in my method? Is the battle AI really that bad in MTW1 or is it some mod that makes it better than the later TWs?
Or is the problem in just custom or random battles?
It is the Gold 2.01 version so it should be patched at least.

 

[bonescraper]

I'm italian my game texts are in italian, why my romans on the battlefield are speaking english ?
this makes me very disappointed, for us it is also a matter of national pride, Rome is our capital......

I just can't believe people can be that stupid.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Just took a look at the TWcentre forums, literaly not a single positive word about the game.

Graphics, optimization, UI, AI all seem to be a step back from Shogun, including people claiming that the alpha footage of the battle of Carthage looked better than the release version.

 

[Cursed Platypus]

Just took a look at the TWcentre forums, literaly not a single positive word about the game.

Graphics, optimization, UI, AI all seem to be a step back from Shogun, including people claiming that the alpha footage of the battle of Carthage looked better than the release version.

pretty much

 

[Steve]

The AI just attacked rome without any siege weapons (didn't even know that was possible). It just parked its dudes in front of my walls and archer towers and is now doing nothing.

edit: Apparently you can breach through the doors with regular infantry. Not very effective as the AI had lost 95% of his army by then.

Spoiler

 

[titus]

The interface is shit!

 

[Cursed Platypus]

The interface is shit!

The interface is the biggest step back. AI and especially obvious bugs will be fixed eventually (''fixed''), but that bland unergonomic piece of shit won't. Shogun 2 UI was wonderful. I also liked the unexplored areas on the campaign map : a stylish Japanese map.

 

[Steve]

The battle speed is way too fast, this is like Shogun 2 on speed.

 

[Quilty]

The UI looks awful, but I suppose that shouldn't be difficult for modders to change, right?

 

[KoolNoodles]

The UI looks awful, but I suppose that shouldn't be difficult for modders to change, right?

Everything* in Warscape is difficult, that's the problem. Changing unit multiplier and basic stuff is not so bad, but something like the UI will probably need mod tools, and that has to wait on CA(they promised some after the game release).

 

[Disgruntled]

Pretty terrible release version. UI is a mess, gameplay feels fishy.. worst of all I cant even salvage some eyecandy.

Started an Iceni campgain and my first battle looked like Polanski's Macbeth with crayons. I suspect there was something gamebreaking on higher fidelity so they scaled back to a shittier build with compromised optimization .
Not much incentive to play until the patches come through.

 

[KoolNoodles]

Yeah, I think they scaled back the graphics from earlier beta builds, there are some comparison screens out there if you want to look. Reminds me of ETW release in that regard. Also the battle speeds are INSANE. Most only last 5-10 minutes at best. Turn into arcade melee fights with power ups deciding the outcome and no time or room for tactics. If one side even has troops one tier above, the "combat" usually only lasts a minute, and then one inferior unit breaks and they all chain rout into oblivion.

 

[Space Satan]

Game is unplayable. Naval battles is a mess. half your units simply ignore your command and ships are not responding to commands - they just row forward. 90% of the time they cannot even perform simple boarding - galleys just stand there doing nothing. UI is beyond horrible.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Not sure how they went from Shogun 2 to this mess, it seems they have devolved in terms of game design.

 

[AMG]

I just played MTW1 for the first time and I must say...are the people who say that one has better AI smoking something really strong or do they just mean the campaign AI?

First, I played a random battle which ended quickly and I thought that I must have had a lot better army than the AI. Then I fought a custom battle with my army being England and the AI France with the exact same units (i.e. 4 Chivalric Knights, 6 Chivalric Men-at-Arms (or something like that) and 4 Archers.) No promotions on anyone, exactly the same amount of florins used and both sides with a Knight being the general.

I won the battle in less than two minutes. Seriously, less than two minutes (1 minute and 52 seconds.)

I thought okay, surely the normal difficult is gimped and the hard is where the real stuff is and fought that same battle on hard.

I won it in three minutes with 4:1 kill ratio...
The AI doesn't seem to know what to do with archers at all and seems to favor all out frontal charges with cavalry and after they run away they send out infantry. The AI units seem to start running away very fast though I think it doesn't necessarily mean they routed.

I have fought a similar custom battle in MTW2 and Stainless Steel and there is no comparison (both were much longer and tougher battles but especially SS thought they too are obviously quite easily winnable battles)

Is there some sort of mistake in my method? Is the battle AI really that bad in MTW1 or is it some mod that makes it better than the later TWs?
Or is the problem in just custom or random battles?
It is the Gold 2.01 version so it should be patched at least.

The battle AI is not better in MTW. I guess it was kind of forgivable back then, however with this crucial aspect not improved for the nth installment it is understandable that people are buttmad. The units don't bug out at least in MTW.
The campaign AI is a bit better due to the "boardgame" campaign map. Anybody knowing what are they doing will still roll it so make no mistake.

 

[Morgoth]

Lololololol @ Day1 purchasers.

 

[curry]

Are you guys telling me this game is actually a turd? Who would have guessed

Atleast it's available to a wider audience and more accessible and romancable elves

 

[Emily]

there you go

Spoiler

truly we live in the end of times when this is even possible.

 

[Disgruntled]

Lololololol @ Day1 purchasers.

I regret nothing.

Well apart from the broken game. Couldnt find the patience to wait a few months for a patched version. Havent tried a day one CA title since MTW1(which worked). Now I have first hand experience of the release day fail.

 

[~RAGING BONER~]

wow, this is worse than i thought it would be...