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Capcom Resident Evil 4 Remake - out now for PC/Playstation/Xbox

gerey

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Still, I find upsetting the amount of resources put into retelling previous stories and putting fresh coat of paint over something that still looked good.
I think it's partially because Japanese developers seem to like to iterate on an idea, rather than make something completely new from scratch.

Also, the hype and sales benefits are not to be ignored. Capcom knows very well how popular RE2 and RE4 are, and banks on this to sell the remakes.

Also, I can't fault them for making them - since they usually change enough things to make them a worthwhile addition to the RE library. My only hope is that the RE3R debacle was enough of a wakeup call to make them put more effort into the RE4 remake, but if their comments about not cutting anything from the original, and adding more on top, are to be believed they seem to realize this.

Now, hopefully, these new additions are actually good.
 

DJOGamer PT

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now leon is a full on quip machine
he was like that in the original
if anything here he seems to take everything overly serious

I wanted to get on the "RE6 is a misunderstood masterpiece" train with all my fellow contrarians
That's a shameless exaggeration
The game isn't a masterpiece, but it's also not the dogshit it was lambasted on release
The game has some very good action mechanics that at it's best moments make it quite a fun game
The problem is that for the most part, both the level and enemy design is mediocre - as such the game is imo missed potential

Another issue i have with remakes is that the originals are no longer available for purchase.
This right here is the real problem with remakes
I don't mind the fact that as years go by the original games are played less and less and seem more and more and "dated"
That's the fate of every work be it books or games, even the best of the best - with time their audience is reduced to fans, enthusiasts and scholars
But removing the possibility of legal puchase for the rest of the world in order to peddle a different work, is a really fucking dick move - insulting even, both to the audience and the developers
 

Daedalos

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They should do what Heavy Rain did. Make it so you can fail the QTE and the cutscenes turns into a sequence from The Naked Gun. Leon fails the boulder QTE so he trips and falls into a pile of garbage while running away but doesn't get crushed.




I say, I'm fucking ready.

Remaking old games is great if they do it faithfully, RE2 remake was a top notch amazing remake, dead space 1 remake is amazing, starcraft 1, etc. diablo 2. remasters .. etc. C&C and red alert.

Nothing wrong with people wanting the best possible version of their favourite game.

If they remade fallout 1+2 very faithfully with updated stuff, I can tell you everybody on the codex would buy it in a heartbeat.
You are like a shit taste having machine.

And your opinion is worth about as much as molded vomit from a homeless crack induced gay nigger faggot.
 

Daedalos

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the rain actually looks like the sperm blizzard from GTA:SA
I don't have any problems with other aspects but seriously what the fuck is going on with the rain? How'd they make it look so bad in 2023?
I thought it was obvious that the ultra shit compressed video snippet is why the rain looks bad. Rain looked amazing in RE2R, same engine, and capcom isn't known to skimp on graphics. RE8 has next-gen shit too from the RE-engine
 

Wunderbar

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Looks overdesigned and heavy on the cutscenes.

OG RE4: Leon sees the first ganado in a cutscene, cutscene ends, real gameplay starts where you shoot the poor bastard despite being an intruder yourself.

Remake: Leon sees the first ganado in a cutscene, kills him in an elaborate scripted sequence where ganado gets chucked into a wall and breaks his neck, then there's another elaborate scripted sequence where the same ganado wakes up and attacks Leon again with his head flailing around lifelessly. It may look cool, but in OG RE4 the first encounter was done almost entirely in-game, with minimal use of cutscenes.

OG RE4: player hears ganados on the outside (in-game), tries to open the door and sees the message that it's blocked from the other side (still in-game). Player proceeds to go upstairs, breaks the window and jumps outside (completely in-game).
Remake: there's an elaborate cutscene where Leon finds photos of Ashley glued to a wall, contacts Hunnigan, then sees ganados trying to break down the door with hatchets (still during a cutscene), and tries to escape the cabin by jumping out of the window (it was all one lengthy cutscene).

OG RE4: Player simply presses the button to jump off a ledge, sees a button prompt "catch Ashley", presses the button, Ashley jumps down and Leon catches her. All in-game.
Remake: there's an elaborate cutscene where Leon jumps from the window, asks Ashley to jump and promises that he's going to catch her. She jumps, Leon catches her. Cutscene ends.

Same shit was in RE7, RE2 remake, RE3 remake, Village. Why can't they just allow things to happen in-game, without taking control away from the player???
 

Wunderbar

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Also it's kinda weird that you can now bind guns/knives/grenades to hotkeys, but can't do the same with healing spray.
 

Tyranicon

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This is like the only game I'm looking forward to now that Darktide came out and bombed.

Come on, be good.
 

Ivan

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Looks overdesigned and heavy on the cutscenes.

OG RE4: Leon sees the first ganado in a cutscene, cutscene ends, real gameplay starts where you shoot the poor bastard despite being an intruder yourself.

Remake: Leon sees the first ganado in a cutscene, kills him in an elaborate scripted sequence where ganado gets chucked into a wall and breaks his neck, then there's another elaborate scripted sequence where the same ganado wakes up and attacks Leon again with his head flailing around lifelessly. It may look cool, but in OG RE4 the first encounter was done almost entirely in-game, with minimal use of cutscenes.

OG RE4: player hears ganados on the outside (in-game), tries to open the door and sees the message that it's blocked from the other side (still in-game). Player proceeds to go upstairs, breaks the window and jumps outside (completely in-game).
Remake: there's an elaborate cutscene where Leon finds photos of Ashley glued to a wall, contacts Hunnigan, then sees ganados trying to break down the door with hatchets (still during a cutscene), and tries to escape the cabin by jumping out of the window (it was all one lengthy cutscene).

OG RE4: Player simply presses the button to jump off a ledge, sees a button prompt "catch Ashley", presses the button, Ashley jumps down and Leon catches her. All in-game.
Remake: there's an elaborate cutscene where Leon jumps from the window, asks Ashley to jump and promises that he's going to catch her. She jumps, Leon catches her. Cutscene ends.

Same shit was in RE7, RE2 remake, RE3 remake, Village. Why can't they just allow things to happen in-game, without taking control away from the player???
"but but the Hunnigan calls are REAL TIME"
:lol:
 

Tacgnol

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Ashley looks pretty cute, cant wait for the meltdown from the actress and journos when people start making porn with her model. :bounce:

There was only mild bitching about that when it happened with Claire/Ada.

The model didn't seem to be aware/care.
 

680x0

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My local Weird Fiction bookstore is going to do a midnight bring-your-own-rig race on release night. Is it time for this gamer to rise up?
 

Fargus

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Ashley looks pretty cute, cant wait for the meltdown from the actress and journos when people start making porn with her model. :bounce:

If she is cute\hot people will rule 34 her. Noone gives a fuck about these no name actresses\models outside of RE games. Might as well say thanks to all the simps and coomers for some free PR.
 

Tyranicon

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Ashley looks pretty cute, cant wait for the meltdown from the actress and journos when people start making porn with her model. :bounce:

There was only mild bitching about that when it happened with Claire/Ada.

The model didn't seem to be aware/care.
Rule 34 is always in effect.

If you are in popular media, expect somebody, somewhere, to make porn of you.
 

Morpheus Kitami

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OG RE4: player hears ganados on the outside (in-game), tries to open the door and sees the message that it's blocked from the other side (still in-game). Player proceeds to go upstairs, breaks the window and jumps outside (completely in-game).
Remake: there's an elaborate cutscene where Leon finds photos of Ashley glued to a wall, contacts Hunnigan, then sees ganados trying to break down the door with hatchets (still during a cutscene), and tries to escape the cabin by jumping out of the window (it was all one lengthy cutscene).
Wasn't there a cutscene in the original where Leon sees some ganados outside? Albeit a brief one. Not saying that it doesn't seem like the remake is going to overload the game with cutscenes.

RE4 had a lot of cutscenes like that. Short, showing you something important, then allowing you to actually play the game. In retrospect, that seems like a good way of handling things if you can't get away with not having them. Short but sweet.
 

LarryTyphoid

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Wasn't there a cutscene in the original where Leon sees some ganados outside? Albeit a brief one. Not saying that it doesn't seem like the remake is going to overload the game with cutscenes.

RE4 had a lot of cutscenes like that. Short, showing you something important, then allowing you to actually play the game. In retrospect, that seems like a good way of handling things if you can't get away with not having them. Short but sweet.
You can also instantly skip those cutscenes, unlike the excruciatingly long setpieces of RE7 and RE3R. RE2R was pretty decent with avoiding long setpieces and allowing you to skip cutscenes, but it remains to be seen which path RE4R will tread.
 

TheHeroOfTime

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OG RE4: player hears ganados on the outside (in-game), tries to open the door and sees the message that it's blocked from the other side (still in-game). Player proceeds to go upstairs, breaks the window and jumps outside (completely in-game).
Remake: there's an elaborate cutscene where Leon finds photos of Ashley glued to a wall, contacts Hunnigan, then sees ganados trying to break down the door with hatchets (still during a cutscene), and tries to escape the cabin by jumping out of the window (it was all one lengthy cutscene).
Wasn't there a cutscene in the original where Leon sees some ganados outside? Albeit a brief one. Not saying that it doesn't seem like the remake is going to overload the game with cutscenes.

RE4 had a lot of cutscenes like that. Short, showing you something important, then allowing you to actually play the game. In retrospect, that seems like a good way of handling things if you can't get away with not having them. Short but sweet.

Yes. In the original game there's a small cutscene where Leon watches through a window, but can't see what is happening (He just hears the truck running over the police guys). This happens after you kill the first ganado. He receives a Hunnighan call too. All before you escape the first house.

RE4 is a very cinematic game, I don't mind if they add more cutscenes in the remake or if they change the way some things happens in the original. I'm more afraid of the gameplay itself. One interesting thing that has been confirmed is that the game doesn't have QTEs.
 

Baron Dupek

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How exciting - nothing quite as satisfying as buying treasure.

Capcom’s upcoming Resident Evil 4 Remake has added brand new treasure collectibles, but they are locked behind DLC.

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The Xbox Store now features a Treasure Map DLC for the Resident Evil 4 Remake, which makes brand new treasure collectibles available in the game. With this map expansion, additional treasures will be placed throughout the game world. Some of these treasures can only be obtained by purchasing the Treasure Map expansion.
This is basically like the deluxe coins from RE7, but with some extra steps.
 
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Ezekiel

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Makes me wonder if there will be empty spots on the map where treasures should be. Like an unused altar or a nook for a missing chest.
 

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