Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

[Hoaxmetal]

So now ps 4.5 will have exclusives that will not run on ps 4 ?

These games will work on the current PlayStation 4, but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

 

[Excidium II]

I like the 4k buzzword.

 

[jcd]

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[Lyric Suite]

Because the masses have been sold on the idea, and now they can't undo the damage. Anyone buying a 4K TV now won't be able to understand why their console doesn't meet the same standard. Basically, TV marketing fucked consoles completely. Us glorious PC master race can only laugh in scorn and derision.

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

PS4 can't even run at constant 30FPS in 1080p, why the hell are they trying to support sell 4K now?

Because selling hot shit to retards is the oldest form of Jew-Fu in the book?

 

[Zewp]

PS4 can't even run at constant 30FPS in 1080p, why the hell are they trying to support 4K now?

Because people will still buy into it. The people who will buy PS4.5 are the same morons who believed they were getting 60FPS 1080p games when they bought their PS4.

 

[J_C]

So now ps 4.5 will have exclusives that will not run on ps 4 ?

There is a chance that those ps4.5 games will have a graphic option menu, so you can scale back the graphics to run on a ps4. There were a few console games recently which had a graphic options, so gamers could sacrifice graphical fidelity for a higher framerate. One of these was The Division, but I'm sure more will come in the future.

 

[Morgoth]

4K probably only refers to 4K Blu-Ray capability, because I can't see how a twice as powerful GPU would be sufficient enough to play 4K@ 30fps games.

 

[Infinitron]

Expect a resurgence in the popularity of turn-based games, the only ones capable of actually taking advantage of the console's 4K capabilities.

 

[abija]

PS4 can't even run at constant 30FPS in 1080p, why the hell are they trying to support 4K now?

Because they probably realized scalars are cheap and very few people run a setup where they can notice the difference between 1080p and 1080p scaled to 2160p? (by setup I mean screen size and distance to it)

 

[DosBuster]

Yeah, it's a scalar.

 

[Average Manatee]

These games will work on the current PlayStation 4, but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

I thought that was already the case with most games not even reaching 30 FPS?

Is the new Cinematic Frame Rate going to be 15 FPS?

 

[Talby]

I can't wait to buy The Last of Us: Remastered: Remastered.

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

Actually it's a good news, that way original PS4 prices will drop significantly, maybe to such point when sane people would be able buy this Persona5/Bloodborne/NieR2 machine with no regrets of wasted money.

 

[Excidium II]

Will still cost a fortune here anyway.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Yeah, until Bloodborne 2 comes out, then you are fucked. There's no winning with consoles. You'll have to just learn how to take it up the ass and live with it.

 

[jcd]

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[Higher Animal]

Consoles are only relevant when they are composed of proprietary technology. Microsoft's entrance into the console market changed this custom and has made consoles a backwater of technology.

A PS4.5 is not a good idea. When Sega introduced expansions to the Sega Genesis, they were based on novel technologies and required purchase of the original platform. They were also launched at a time when video games could be developed and released in a year.

 

[talan]

These games will work on the current PlayStation 4, but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

I thought that was already the case with most games not even reaching 30 FPS?

Is the new Cinematic Frame Rate going to be 15 FPS?

That sentence comes from a paragraph talking about Developers/DevKits. I would assume only devs can do it for testing purposes, not for production.

I doubt Sony would allow developers to make a sub-par experience for the 4. Unless they allow targeting both 4 and 4K where the 4K has better graphics/resolution/stuffs.

 

[GrainWetski]

These games will work on the current PlayStation 4, but with considerable sacrifices made to performance.

I thought that was already the case with most games not even reaching 30 FPS?

Is the new Cinematic Frame Rate going to be 15 FPS?

That sentence comes from a paragraph talking about Developers/DevKits. I would assume only devs can do it for testing purposes, not for production.

I doubt Sony would allow developers to make a sub-par experience for the 4. Unless they allow targeting both 4 and 4K where the 4K has better graphics/resolution/stuffs.

You doubt they would continue to allow that?

 

[abija]

Is the new Cinematic Frame Rate going to be 15 FPS?

10 of those being interpolated.

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

A PS4.5 is not a good idea. When Sega introduced expansions to the Sega Genesis, they were based on novel technologies and required purchase of the original platform.

Yeah, comparing PS4.5 to Genesis add-ons or Saturn's additional RAM chip is poitnless, they at least make a platform you buy needed, now Sony points middle finger at players, especially those dumbucks that done D1P when there was literally no games for it.

Exluclusives are know the last thing that keep consoles alive, they loose almost all their merits like plug/n/play philosophy and inherit all of PC flaws. Buy new hardware after 2 years, yeah cheap gaming they said...

 

[Makabb]

PS4.5 Will Have Improved CPU, GPU, and RAM, Codenamed Neo

Every PS4 game will be required to ship with two different modes--one where the game will run on the current PS4 and one that will run on the upgraded console. The Neo mode will utilize the superior hardware to increase and stabilize frame rates, while also offering higher resolutions. 4K output will be supported, but games won't be required to run at 4K resolution.

Despite the upgrades, this new console will not replace the PS4 and will instead exist alongside it. There will be no Neo-only games and Sony will not let developers separate Neo users from those playing on original PS4--that also means Sony won't let developers offer exclusive options or unlockables for Neo players. This includes peripheral support, which means it won't offer exclusive VR modes, either.

specs of Neo

CPU: 8 Jaguar cores 2.1 ghz

GPU: AMD GCN 36 cus at 911mhz

Memory: 8gb GDDR5 218gb/s

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps45-will-have-improved-cpu-gpu-and-ram-codenamed-/1100-6438961/

 

[Havoc]

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

4K output will be supported, but games won't be required to run above 10 fps at 4K resolution.

^Fixed that typo.

There won't be enough popcorn to go around for when tards discover that the only way to run their popamoles at 4K is to drop all graphical settings to SNES standards.