Incline POLL: Roshan's Quick and Brutal 2015 RPGOTY Survey

[Jimmious]

For me (and although I highly prefer turn-based to RTwP) PoE was the most enjoyable game of 2015. I did not play AoD yet though (and when I do, I'll be sure to have Lore , right Darth Roxor ?

Spoiler

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[InD_ImaginE]

I feel bad for not liking Witcher 3.. am i the only one here?! Controls were bad and quests made me bored.
But it is popular even on Codex.

First thing to learn on life, mate? Everybody has different taste. Like all RPG, especially open world one, there are discrepancy between quests quality. Main questline are mostly good, Red Baron being the prime example, but I do agree that some of the sidequests needed some more work. Even then the writing might or might not click with you still, regardless of what people said. Hey there are people out there (or even here) that praise FO4 having the best story and setting ever regardless of how banal it is.

And yes, control and combat of the game is not good, and is actually the main criticism for the game.

So long you are not voting FO4 as best RPG you are still okay in my book

 

[roshan]

Waiting for the Tru felipepepe poll with charts, averages and marketing double speak that ensures Lightning Returns' victory.

I really appreciate Felipepepe's poll last year, lots of interesting things, tons of statistics... But the results it produced were completely and absolutely retarded, not to mention the poll was open to non-Codexers. Let's look at the supposed "Codex" top RPGs of last year:

This is pretty much... insane. The top 20 "RPGS" features three JRPGs, two Quest for Glory clones, an XCOM clone, a platformer that only 17 people ranked, a console action game, an expansion set to an old roguelike, a grand strategy game, an isometric beat em up, a survival roguelike, a South Park game. While some of these like Neo Scavenger were legitimately awarded, when you have a year with multiple good releases, it makes no sense to see these RPGs or tactical RPGs being edged out by games like LISA or Transistor.

I know there are a few stupid people on this site (just look at those who have voted for Fallout 4) but those results were a mess even taking that into account. But at least lots of people had the sense to downvote Dragon Age Inquisition.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Oh god, not this shit again.

"Poll is shit cause I can't handle the result, so lets vote until I get the result I'd personally prefer."

 

[likaq]

When you see top RPGs of last year list that have platform game, strategy game, x-com clone, Quest for Glory clones and isometric beat em up it is hard not to agree with roshan.
What's next? Top crpg list that contains gta san andreas( it have stats! therefore it's crpg! ), mmo, tycoon game and f-16 simulator?

 

[a bear named spigot]

until we figure out what an rpg actually is I think it's best we not exclude anything, just to be on the safe side. plus this has the added bonus of fostering a community of inclusiveness, which we can all agree is of utmost importance.

 

[jimmy_pvish]

And now we have Pillow of Eternity at no.4.
This poll is shit.

 

[Serus]

Oh god, not this shit again.

"Poll is shit cause I can't handle the result, so lets vote until I get the result I'd personally prefer."

Oh, god, not this shit again = the only part you got right.

Following this logic any and every single poll (no matter how bad the rules and methods employed) is above any criticism by definition. If anyone dares to criticize you can just come out and claim: "it is because you don't like the results !" Did i get it right or have i missed something ?
TL,DR: leave your ad personam arguments powers to GD threads.


Clarification for some members of the Codex that may need it: I'm not implying felipepe's poll was poorly done only the above pseudo-argument.

 

[Roguey]

And now we have Pillow of Eternity at no.4.
This poll is shit.

SitS and PoE keep trading places.

It's keen how this year gave us a battle between two single-character turn based and two party-based rtwp. There were also two cinematic open world games, but there was a clear winner there everywhere. I suppose there could have been a battle between Voidspire and Telepath if there were more than a handful of people who cared about them.

 

[CryptRat]

I suppose there could have been a battle between Voidspire and Telepath if there were more than a handful of people who cared about them.

Don't get fooled by its title, Voidspire Tactics' best point is its exploration, its combat only comes second. Telepath Tactics' combat is better but it's only a combat game.

EDIT : The combat is good in Voidspire Tactics considering it's an open world game (the encounter design is better than or on par with-let's say-Dark Sun : Shattered Lands, the game is shorter though). You control only 4 characters. Telepath Tactics is a succession of large battles and so is a completely different game.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

1. Age of Decadence.
2. Underrail.
3. Shadowrun: HK.

 

[roshan]

And now we have Pillow of Eternity at no.4.
This poll is shit.

It can't be helped, it's probably the years most divisive release. On one hand, 45% of Codexers think it was the worst release of the year, on the other hand a quarter rank it in their top 3.

 

[Osvir]

Don't know why I vote on these, a lot of these games are in my backlog. Playing games can be a couple of years project for me, doesn't quite really matter when a game is released but rather when I experience it that matters.

I voted on these:
Pillars of Eternity
Underrail
Invisible Inc

Reason? I know most about these and have fond experiences with them.

 

[Bumvelcrow]

Members who voted for 'Sword Coast Legends'

• Darth Roxor
  
• Bubbles

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[roshan]

OK, time to call the results:

1. Underrail 178 vote(s) 59.7%
2. Age of Decadence 173 vote(s) 58.1%
3. Witcher 3 94 vote(s) 31.5%
4. Serpent in the Staglands 75 vote(s) 25.2%
5. Pillars of Eternity 74 vote(s) 24.8%
6. Shadowrun Hong Kong 37 vote(s) 12.4%
7. Undertale 14 vote(s) 4.7%
8. Invisible Inc 13 vote(s) 4.4%
9. Legends of Eisenwald 9 vote(s) 3.0%
10/11. Telepath Tactics 8 vote(s) 2.7%
10/11. Fallout 4 8 vote(s) 2.7%
12/13. Antharion 5 vote(s) 1.7%
12/13. Hard West 5 vote(s) 1.7%

The Codex has spoken. It's too bad that Fallout 4 placed in the poll, although this was due to the sarcastic/troll votes, but there you have it.

 

[Jaesun]

 

[Goral]

If you have to pick THE BEST (and not the best three) Age of Decadence wins: www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/what-is-your-personal-2015-rpg-goty-roleplaying-game-game-of-the-year.106067/

 

[roshan]

If you have to pick THE BEST (and not the best three) Age of Decadence wins: www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/what-is-your-personal-2015-rpg-goty-roleplaying-game-game-of-the-year.106067/

That's a VERY small lead though.

 

[Roguey]

It's a statistical tie. Round 29.5 up and 30.4 down to 30.

 

[roshan]

So... Lots of polls on the first page. I wonder if any will top this one in terms of accuracy.

 

[I'm Big Into Anal]

yet to play AoD but have played the shit out of UR

pleased with poll result

 

[Roqua]

This poll is really, really bad. Satellite Reign, Legends of Eisenwald, Hard West, ICY, Bedlam, Telepath Tactics, Invisible Inc, and Hard West are blatant non-rpgs. Victor Vran is way to rpg-lite to be considered an Arpg.​

I agree with no Jrpgs, since they are not even close to rpgs. I really liked ICY and Telepath Tactics but they are not rpgs, period. I really liked Templar Battleforce and I honestly just don't see it. Heroes of Steel, yes, I see it. But not Templar. Hard West, Invisible Inc (both of which are extremely rpg-lite) are clearly squad TBS with extremely lite rpg elements.

This is the bottom line - if developers want their games counted they should make proper rpgs. If people want games you really like counted you should really like proper rpgs.

Blackguards 2 has enough going on outside of the squad TBS mode to somewhat muddy the lines, wheras Templar really doesn't. And I like Templar and hate BG 2 with a firey passion for them ripping the DSA system out of it. But BG 2 should stay.

I think Sword Coast Legends is complete trash garbage and even though it is very rpg-lite it is still has the wrappings of a proper rpg, but should clearly be included.

I, personally, wouldn't even put Kyn on the list as it is a little muddy but not muddy enough to warrant inclusion.

Why would you include Legends of Eisenwald but not HoMM 7? In rpgs they don't rape you and take all your shit and your squad all the time for no reason. It is very rpg-lite and is not a rpg at all. It is HoMM type game. I don't know enough about Underrail and Chroma Squad and Carribean to comment other than the first two are kids games and why not include Wizards 101 and Disney Infinity?


I like the idea of this post, but you need to remove the non-rpgs for this to be valid.

 

[Morality Games]

Unexpectedly good showing for PoE so far. All the hate and it's still a top 5 game

That's a reflection of the install base. It isn't as though negative votes negate the positive ones.

 

[roshan]

This poll is really, really bad. Satellite Reign, Legends of Eisenwald, Hard West, ICY, Bedlam, Telepath Tactics, Invisible Inc, and Hard West are blatant non-rpgs. Victor Vran is way to rpg-lite to be considered an Arpg.​

I agree with no Jrpgs, since they are not even close to rpgs. I really liked ICY and Telepath Tactics but they are not rpgs, period. I really liked Templar Battleforce and I honestly just don't see it. Heroes of Steel, yes, I see it. But not Templar. Hard West, Invisible Inc (both of which are extremely rpg-lite) are clearly squad TBS with extremely lite rpg elements.

This is the bottom line - if developers want their games counted they should make proper rpgs. If people want games you really like counted you should really like proper rpgs.

Blackguards 2 has enough going on outside of the squad TBS mode to somewhat muddy the lines, wheras Templar really doesn't. And I like Templar and hate BG 2 with a firey passion for them ripping the DSA system out of it. But BG 2 should stay.

I think Sword Coast Legends is complete trash garbage and even though it is very rpg-lite it is still has the wrappings of a proper rpg, but should clearly be included.

I, personally, wouldn't even put Kyn on the list as it is a little muddy but not muddy enough to warrant inclusion.

Why would you include Legends of Eisenwald but not HoMM 7? In rpgs they don't rape you and take all your shit and your squad all the time for no reason. It is very rpg-lite and is not a rpg at all. It is HoMM type game. I don't know enough about Underrail and Chroma Squad and Carribean to comment other than the first two are kids games and why not include Wizards 101 and Disney Infinity?

I like the idea of this post, but you need to remove the non-rpgs for this to be valid.

If you check the poll results, you'd see that very few voted for most of those games except for some obvious trolls. I'd say that at this point, 5 votes is the cutoff, anything that hasn't gotten 5 Codex votes is just totally useless and not really worth considering as one of the good RPG's of 2015. I included all of them because I didn't want to get into "what is an RPG?", but Codexia itself has spoken and those games simply don't make the cut.

A game that is not an RPG and has few redeeming qualities has very little chance of getting votes compared to titans like Underrail, Age of Decadence and Serpent in the Staglands. That's why I like the "3 votes" format, it's based on natural selection, only the fittest can compete.

If you look at the games that are at or above the 5 vote cutoff point, you do have Legends of Eisenwald, Invisible Inc, Telepath Tactics, Hard West, Voidspire Tactics, that have very light RPG elements, but it appears that they are solid, good games and I'd consider them "tactical RPGs" of a sort, and if they've stood up against full fledged RPGs and held their ground then they do deserve honor and recognition.