Eternity Pillars of Eternity II Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Ulfhednar]

All this time I thought FreeKaner was crazy, but Deadfire really is a dumpsterfire.

Katrina left, and then everything went to shit.

 

[Infinitron]

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/95782-the-deadfire-scavenger-codes-4055-codes-found/?p=2002914

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41/55: https://eternity.obsidian.net/scavenger/logbook

 

[fantadomat]

The Codex is a poisonous environment. You only survive here by drinking in the poison. If you survive, you develop an immunity to it. The downside is that you end up with the poison in you. Look at me -- twelve years here turned me from this

into this

What if you come here already with poison immunity?

 

[Prime Junta]

What if you come here already with poison immunity?

I wouldn't know.

 

[Sannom]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well, that took longer than I expected...

Ok is the red haired elf a male or a female? Honest question here,can't say. It looks like a gay larper with a wig and horns on its head,but also have some feminine qualities.

If it's the only ambiguous one and the last two are obviously men and we know that there are three women in the CR team, then the answer is obvious : woman.

 

[fantadomat]

Toxicity is the default where some of us live.

We are on the same opinion here.

 

[Jezal_k23]

I love toxicity. System of a Down's best album.

 

[Bocian]

twelve years here turned me from this

into this

When you go black, you can never go back.

 

[Big Wrangle]

 

[Zed]

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

I didn't paid attention on rpgcodex for a while and now almost overwhelmed by news. Now I don't even know what to think.

When you go black, you can never go back.

And yet, they somehow manage to escape from jail.

The Codex is a poisonous environment. You only survive here by drinking in the poison. If you survive, you develop an immunity to it. The downside is that you end up with the poison in you. Look at me -- twelve years here turned me from this

into this

Oh, common, you look still good for someone who spend most of his time on codex. A bit zombie, but still look like a human. It's not like you turned in giant octopus with dildos, like guys from jrpg section.

One side of my soul laughed hard, another was terrified by fact that anyone would need picture of clinical sick people with weight and lung problems as portrait in RPG.

 

[Prime Junta]

Oh, common, you look still good for someone who spend most of his time on codex. A bit zombie, but still look like a human. It's not like you turned in giant octopus with dildos, like guys from jrpg section.

Spoiler

Fair.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Oh, common, you look still good for someone who spend most of his time on codex. A bit zombie, but still look like a human. It's not like you turned in giant octopus with dildos, like guys from jrpg section.

Spoiler

Fair.

Oh, common. It's was just ironic way to make compliment your avatar, don't take this in negative way.

 

[Ruzen]

So, you know/are sure that the people extradited from BG, in breach of your own courts' rulings, had partaken in the coup? Did Erdogan assure you of this or...?

Honestly i don't remember or know, as long kebab is dying i am a happy man. All of them are the same to me. If they kill each other it is an incline.

Now there is a fella whose filled himself with "news". It's amazing for a man to go much beyond just to belong to a group.

 

[Lacrymas]

Lacrymas, why are you not posting or reading the thread about Avellone's interview? Did you know that he is releasing a series of bombshells in that thread?

I just got back home, I'll check it out now.

Contemplate your thoughts later in this thread.

I got through MCA's unconstrained thoughts that look like they've been building up for a while and I kind of suspected such a thing would happen, the hints were spread throughout his other mentions of Obsidian after this departure. It was a very interesting read, but not something that will surprise any Codexer, we knew this already, just not the specifics which are more gossip than anything else. They sure are potent at creating drama, though. Obsidian simply doesn't look like a company in which you can have personal gratification from your work, the attitude of some key people seems unprofessional and that only leads to frustration. I was recently offered a job as a sort of overseer at a major orchestra and was invited to see how their usual process goes, I won't go into details because it's very easy to identify me personally if I do, and was shocked at how dysfunctional it was. I declined the position for many reasons, but one of the major ones was this dysfunction due to social relationships and an unprofessional attitude that made the work frustrating and unsatisfying. Which is a position in which Avellone unfortunately was for a lot of years and I support him for making the decision to leave when he could.

Some people will accuse me of fangirling and "unconditionally supporting senpai", but that's far from the truth, even if Chris is creatively overdramatisizing the situation it's still obvious he wasn't fulfilled and thought that not only his work is going to waste, but the process is wasting everyone's time and whatever work it is they are doing is worse off for being like this. He is idealizing a corporate atmosphere, though, by thinking people will do more than the minimum that is required, and that's certainly true for some people, but it's a pipe dream and gullibility to think that all, or even most, of them will. Those people are exceptional and find pleasure in trying to meticulously create a masterpiece. But that's not what's important and his idealism is hardly at fault for anything in this context. I don't know what else to say, really.

How does this relate to PoE2? Well, that I might've been closer to the truth with my judgement of the beta than some people, and even I, suspected or are willing to admit. We'll see in less than a week, I suppose.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Meanwhile, this thread is nearing it's 30th page.

 

[AwesomeButton]

He is idealizing a corporate atmosphere, though, by thinking people will do more than the minimum that is required

...With the important caveat - "if you hire the right people". And he is correct. In a perfect world you would only hire people who are at the same time highly motivated, enjoying their work, and want to exceed their superiors' expectations. In the real world however, business concerns force you to be content with less.

 

[fantadomat]

Lacrymas it sound like most team based works,people do tend to create social connections that sometime fail and becomes a mess. Not many people go there to just do the work and leave.Oh and good luck finding an orchestra mate.

On around what page are his posts? It will be tedious to read all 40 pages.

 

[Lacrymas]

Meanwhile, this thread is nearing it's 30th page.

 

[Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss]

I got through MCA's unconstrained thoughts that look like they've been building up for a while and I kind of suspected such a thing would happen, the hints were spread throughout his other mentions of Obsidian after this departure. It was a very interesting read, but not something that will surprise any Codexer, we knew this already, just not the specifics which are more gossip than anything else.

The interesting content in the thread are MCA's posts that start in the page 8.

 

[Lacrymas]

The interesting content in the thread are MCA's posts that start in the page 8.

Yeah, those are what I mean.

 

[aweigh]

 

[Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss]

I didn’t get anything when I left Obsidian. There were no share payouts, no equity, and this was in addition to the other logistical problems around the departure – the sudden cancellation of my health insurance, problems with my 401K, errors in Obsidian’s accounting, and several existing independent contracts they refused to uphold.

Realizing my family issues and the debts therein, however, they did make an attempt to leverage that into a far more confining separation agreement that would remove my right to work on RPGs, and my silence on all issues that could pertain to Obsidian or any other company they were involved with or the CEO had a % in (Fig, Zero Radius, Dark Rock Industries, etc.). This included an inability to critique games I’d worked on – much of my critiques on my own games tend to be blunt, and not being able to speak to them felt unnatural to me.

The company involvement silence worried me more, however, as it meant that if anything illegal happened with any of those companies (these could include serious charges like accounting issues, silence on harassment issues with regards to employees, perjury related to company documents and payments), I couldn’t speak about the issue, even if I felt strongly against what was being revealed.

While all this is good for Obsidian's upper management and is what is sometimes considered "good business," I did feel it showed a lack of ethics.

Still, that attempt at leverage did cause me to re-evaluate aspects of my life. Realizing debt was affecting my decision, I instead focused on working as hard as possible to make up for the amount Obsidian tried to use as leverage to force a signature – and succeeded.

When that happened, I realized I was free of the situation – completely free, for the first time. Feargus and the owners had no hold on my voice, my time, and my creativity any longer. And it was great.

When they made me an offer to contract me to write for Tyranny (which might seem to be an olive branch, but it turned out to be something they needed for contractual reasons with Paradox, but no one had ever communicated it to me), these were the reasons I refused – I didn’t wish to be part of Obsidian’s upper level development process and their pipelines any longer, as these processes were coming from a bad place, and it showed.

Also, realizing there was no restitution for the issues mentioned, I made a promise to myself that nothing I would do would ever cause Feargus and the owners any further financial gain. If my silence was that important to them, then there's no need to be silent because that right hadn't been signed away. Simply put, I like the developers at Obsidian very much, I work and correspond with many of those who are there or have left, and I would work with the developers again. I do feel upper management at Obsidian has serious flaws that need to be addressed, and I stand by that statement.

Just remember guys. Obsidian wanted Avellone to be banned from cRPGs for life and used the cancer of his mother as a leverage to silence him. That's the type of studio you are supporting with your money.

 

[Fry]

You know, it's strange though. Nintendo, despite not really being an RPG developer, has a ton of passionate developers who put in tons of effort. It's not a perfect company, but the strikeouts are massively outweighed by the slam dunks. Why the fuck can't RPG people get their shit together?

Err... what types of RPGs are you comparing Nintendo first-party games to? AAA Sony first-party like Horizon ZD? Independent AAA like Witcher 3? Smaller independents like PoE?

 

[2house2fly]

What on earth is "self-ejected"? Banned by request? Could he not just... log out?