Payday 2 - acquired by Starbreeze, microtransactions removed!

[Tzaero]

I'm leery on the grinding, though. Gaining levels and improved gear seems even more important than in the first, and possibly slower to earn. On the bright side it seems like if you know what you're doing you could do some really fast grinding runs for dosh/XP.

Know what your specializing in early, as it get much harder later on.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I'm leery on the grinding, though. Gaining levels and improved gear seems even more important than in the first, and possibly slower to earn. On the bright side it seems like if you know what you're doing you could do some really fast grinding runs for dosh/XP.

Know what your specializing in early, as it get much harder later on.

Unfortunately I don't really know what I'm specializing in 'cause I don't really know what's useful/useless/what I wanna do. Thus far I went mastermind for the health bag, team-wide increased stamina, and team-wide XP boost.

Also did some crimes with Menck today for a few hours and went from rank 8 to rank 26 or something. Even though I don't think we fully stealthed any mission we MOSTLY stealthed quite a few. And by "We" I mean "They" while I sat on a camera and clicked since I had no idea what I was doing. I AM CREDIT TO TEAM. XP and money gains by playing on hard/overkill are a hell of a lot higher. Bought a shotgun since it does better damage against heavily armored cops than the starting gun. Definitely would say it's better than Payday 1, but I also have to say I liked Payday 1's music more. Nothing beats this for completing a heist.

 

[Dr Tomo]

Worth 50% off a Russian 4 pack.

Are you a hidden jew or something metro? Whenever i read your posts in steam thread you always remind me of this guy.

No I just don't believe in D1P'ing glorified expansions.

Posts like these still gives me hope that not all consumers are brain dead.

 

[Menckenstein]

Game is good.

 

[jcd]

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[Zewp]

I want to play it, but I'm waiting for the next time it goes at at least 50% off.

 

[AngryEddy]

I have the game, but i'm playing through Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 atm.

 

[J_C]

does anyone on this prestigious magazine play that? i sure would like to rob some banks with fellow monocled gentlemen

anus_pounder played the game, and myself too, but I don't have time for it atm. Maybe sometimes later.

 

[anus_pounder]

does anyone on this prestigious magazine play that? i sure would like to rob some banks with fellow monocled gentlemen

Sure, would love to play. Gimme your steam ID as well as the address, names and pictures of any of your female relatives and contacts between the age of 16-30.

 

[CrustyBot]

I used to play it, mostly with my gf. But I haven't tried it in a while, at least since they introduced the whole Infamy system. Let alone the skill/stealth changes and the new election day heist.

Won't come back until they fix the levelling rates though. It's so goddamn grind-y and encourages farming. Sucks the life out of the game knowing that your only chance at getting to the level cap in a decent amount of time is to farm Rats for an entire weekend or some shit.

Sure, would love to play. Gimme your steam ID as well as the address, names and pictures of any of your female relatives and contacts between the age of 16-30.

 

[anus_pounder]

I used to play it, mostly with my gf. But I haven't tried it in a while, at least since they introduced the whole Infamy system. Let alone the skill/stealth changes and the new election day heist.

Won't come back until they fix the levelling rates though. It's so goddamn grind-y and encourages farming. Sucks the life out of the game knowing that your only chance at getting to the level cap in a decent amount of time is to farm Rats for an entire weekend or some shit.

Sure, would love to play. Gimme your steam ID as well as the address, names and pictures of any of your female relatives and contacts between the age of 16-30.

If you want, I could linky you to the payday 2 'hack' tool. You can use it to get around the grind and straight up troll, if you're into that kind of thing.

Planning to using it to max all my stats and shit out once I hit infamy for the first time. No way I'm grinding more than once.

 

[CrustyBot]

Tried that once, I cannot be trusted with hacks. I couldn't help but spawn hundreds of turrets on each heist.

 

[anus_pounder]

Tried that once, I cannot be trusted with hacks. I couldn't help but spawn hundreds of turrets on each heist.

I like Dead Bodies = Bulldozers trick.

 

[sexbad?]

I used to play it but the enemies are shitty bullet sponges.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

Bought this during the free week-end, it's p. fun.

 

[Utgard-Loki]

it's too bad the ai is so shit and people are unreliable cunts. i'm also not digging the fact that there is weapon category dlc and that weapon mods are sort of random after level rewards.

but well worth the 10 bucks.

 

[Zewp]

The AI is at least a bit better than in the original game. Back there they would stand right next to you and do fuck-all while you get stunlocked by a tazer, simply because they can't see the tazer guy.

 

[Steve]

I wish they'd improve the stealth mechanics. We found it much more fun when coordinating who takes out which cameras and guards. When the alarm triggers the game immediately becomes a boring grind against endless waves of zombie cops.

 

[jcd]

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[Zewp]

Apparently they've been nerfing the stealth gameplay since day one and despite the community complaining they just kept doing it.

 

[SoupNazi]

I don't know why I lost interest in the sequel so quickly. I played the original game for ages, part of the reason might be that I was really good at the original, but with Payday 2, they changed the gun mechanics and I kind of started sucking. So whereas before I could pull the entire team with me through Heist Street on Overkill basically on my own, now I have to rely on really good teams to pull stuff off. And since most of my friends also already lost interest, it's hard to come by someone decent, especially since I refuse to grind so I am fairly low-level.

 

[Dead Guy]

I've played this a lot, still play but less since I want to play with non-randoms to be able to try pulling things off in stealth or elegantly instead of the almost unavoidable stealth fails you get when one guy is either bad, a noob or doesn't speak english.

I enjoy both aspects of the game. Even after they changed stealth. I didn't really like it that much at first, I had learned the secure method of Framing Frame for instance and while it was perhaps a bit easy when you knew exactly what to do (kill 4 guards, dominate the fifth, take out cameras, bag throwing simulator), some of the more complex stealth maps became RNG parties when you could no longer clear the level and had to successfully avoid a few remaining guards in levels that don't really allow you to always escape a patrolling guard. Anyway, it's a different challenge but especially on the maps released after the stealth change it's more doable. Election day part 2 and the recent shadow raid work fairly well with the new system, Framing Frame not so much. Train Heist pretty much not at all.

The main problem with multiplayer stealth in PD2 (apart from bad players) seems to be the net code that gives a delay for everyone but the host in terms of the detection circle. Basically you can step out around a corner and after a while the circle pops up, you're being spotted, you pop back in cover but the circle continues to fill because of the delay and your cover is blown.

The MMOish elements they've put in to pad the play time are all extremely unfortunate and annoying. I really don't understand how they thought it would be a good idea to make people wait in line for simply playing a heist they like. It's utterly retarded. Waiting for that heist you want to play to pop up randomly out of a selection of 15+ others, and then also the difficulty you want from 5 different ones. Just, why? The added idiocy of the system where you're penalized for playing one heist several times in a row is also unfortunate since it takes choice and fun away from the player just because some people were upset that others wanted to play Rats to level up. Additionally, it pretty much put a stop to lobbies sticking together for more jobs when a team happened to form for a public job that worked well together, since everyone have different xp boosts/penalties to different heists.

Likewise, the gun customization aspect was a great improvement on PD:TH, but the random card draw system to acquire upgrades for guns totally destroys it until you've either farmed normal jewelry store for cards or collected enough normally by which time you're probably level 70-80 of 100.

The separation of cash and xp is also questionable since it would otherwise allow you to gain more experience by risking failure to steal more. As it stands you're not really interested in extra loot most of the time since money becomes worthless at a certain point while the xp grind is much longer. You only really need cash in the early game to buy new weapons and attach any mods you luck into finding for the gun you like using, and for assigning skill points from leveling up. Another kind of stupid decision imo that you need both cash and xp to assign skills, in an otherwise superior system of choosing your perks than PD:TH.

Anyway, I'd be happy to play some friends only games for a change. I don't care if you've hacked your level to max as long as you want to play without cheating in the actual game.

 

[WhiteGuts]

I pre-ordered this (first time I did that), I played it a lot after release. Maybe too much. I had like 100 hours and 80 levels well before they started the major updates and released the first DLC. So I kinda lost interest.
The new updates seem interesting; although I'm really not a fan of what they did to the stealth system.

There also 2-3 new heists coming up, with a new character "The Dentist" (it's fucking Gustavo Fring). Maybe I'll get back into it by then.

 

[WhiteGuts]

Oh and I forgot, old Hoxton is back ! One of the new heists is breaking him out of jail.

 

[Dead Guy]

The new hesits (paid DLC though, possibly as high as 7$ per heist...) sound pretty promising. Hoping for more than one or two day jobs with more scope. Diamond Heist, Bigger bank job and Casino in addition to breaking Hoxton out of jail.