Incline Path of Exile 2 - now available on Early Access

[ArchAngel]

yeah its shit fight, either deal enough dmg to skip mechanics or have blink on swap

but im in demon form, my dash goes faaar.

blink would be dangerous, even with demon form its easy to dash past safe zone

Blink should let you control the precise spot you arrive at unless it is further than blink range.

 

[ArchAngel]

yeah its shit fight, either deal enough dmg to skip mechanics or have blink on swap

Also I think it should be this hard. It should not be for every character and every player to be able to do.

 

[Israfael]

Also I think it should be this hard. It should not be for every character and every player to be able to do.

It just forces people even more into uber-dps / skip mechanic mindset as failing costs you money and time.

 

[ArchAngel]

Also I think it should be this hard. It should not be for every character and every player to be able to do.

It just forces people even more into uber-dps / skip mechanic mindset as failing costs you money and time.

Well they will kill those builds eventually. Also as I said, you do not need to do it. Just like when I played D4 last I killed all bosses except Uber Lilith. I went to the fight, got instantly one shot and just decided to let that one for more sweaty players

EDIT: I've been doing homebrewed characters in PoE1 for years now and never reaching pinnacle bosses, there is no need for everyone to kill every boss.

 

[Jermu]

yeah its shit fight, either deal enough dmg to skip mechanics or have blink on swap

Also I think it should be this hard. It should not be for every character and every player to be able to do.

difficulty is not the problem but getting combos you can't survive unless you have specific movement tech is retarded

one shot mechanic is fine imo if you can avoid it by playing well

 

[ArchAngel]

yeah its shit fight, either deal enough dmg to skip mechanics or have blink on swap

Also I think it should be this hard. It should not be for every character and every player to be able to do.

difficulty is not the problem but getting combos you can't survive unless you have specific movement tech is retarded

one shot mechanic is fine imo if you can avoid it by playing well

That specific movement tech is available to everyone and only costs 60 spirit.

 

[Israfael]

EDIT: I've been doing homebrewed characters in PoE1 for years now and never reaching pinnacle bosses, there is no need for everyone to kill every boss.

You can do whatever you want ( I don't play trade, for example, and never use dodge roll or wasd), but in trade environment the builds that can guarantee loot will naturally take over the ones that don't, as they provide more currency generation. Not sure what's so hard to understand, although you said you only just now did Merc Lab and that it was a challenge (and I've done 4 floor Sanctum in one try on both spark and pconc chars)

 

[ArchAngel]

EDIT: I've been doing homebrewed characters in PoE1 for years now and never reaching pinnacle bosses, there is no need for everyone to kill every boss.

You can do whatever you want ( I don't play trade, for example, and never use dodge roll or wasd), but in trade environment the builds that can guarantee loot will naturally take over the ones that don't, as they provide more currency generation. Not sure what's so hard to understand, although you said you only just now did Merc Lab and that it was a challenge (and I've done 4 floor Sanctum in one try on both spark and pconc chars)

It was an unfair challenge on all the non meta characters I tried. Last character is close to OPness as Deadeye lightning arrow builds so 3rd floor Sanctum was easy.

But GGG said they will buff bad builds and nerf too good ones. My opinion is based on such future version of the game, no point in trying to adjust pinnacle bosses for current version of the game.

 

[Israfael]

But GGG said they will buff bad builds and nerf too good ones. My opinion is based on such future version of the game, no point in trying to adjust pinnacle bosses for current version of the game.

Regardless of what GGG does, there always will be meta builds that provide the best ROI (as in they farm content as fast as possible) and the others which no one plays. The only way to fix this is either to add unskippable mechanics phases (and that can probably still be glitched out etc - yesterday I've electricuted Zarokh at some specific point after which he literally froze and stopped doing anything so I could just spam spark at my leisure and do nothing else), put a hard limit on players' ability to generate loot (which is a first step to p2w or mobile games philosophy) via some sort of real-time based mechanic, or just remove trade alltogether. Apart from the first one, nothing of this is even considered by GGG

 

[lukaszek]

yeah its shit fight, either deal enough dmg to skip mechanics or have blink on swap

but im in demon form, my dash goes faaar.

blink would be dangerous, even with demon form its easy to dash past safe zone

Blink should let you control the precise spot you arrive at unless it is further than blink range.

how exactly? If I hit dodge it always goes full range for me, unless there is an obstacle that is.
No movement, it goes to mouse pointer, or past it if its lower than max range.
With wsad it follows the movement, but again goes max.

Demon form got similar dash range, is very fast but at least I can follow the path and make adjustments. For example I can dash in circle. If I overshoot safe zone, I can try going backwards

 

[ArchAngel]

yeah its shit fight, either deal enough dmg to skip mechanics or have blink on swap

but im in demon form, my dash goes faaar.

blink would be dangerous, even with demon form its easy to dash past safe zone

Blink should let you control the precise spot you arrive at unless it is further than blink range.

how exactly? If I hit dodge it always goes full range for me, unless there is an obstacle that is.
No movement, it goes to mouse pointer, or past it if its lower than max range.
With wsad it follows the movement, but again goes max.

Demon form got similar dash range, is very fast but at least I can follow the path and make adjustments. For example I can dash in circle. If I overshoot safe zone, I can try going backwards

Have you tried blink? I play on a controller so for me it is also always going to go full distance but from what I have watched on twitch, it should blink to mouse cursor

 

[Jermu]

naw its always max distance

 

[Israfael]

what I have watched on twitch, it should blink to mouse cursor

Are you sure you've watched poe2 and not poe1? Flame dash teleports you to the mouse point (within certain distance), while frostblink and poe2 blink are fixed distance movement abilities

 

[ArchAngel]

naw its always max distance

hmm, in that case I agree that arbiter fight might be stupid. I just assumed if forces blink use and that should be OK since blink is easily available to everyone and you can turn off all your defensive auras anyways for that fight so getting extra 60 spirit should not be a problem.

 

[Israfael]

60 spirit should not be a problem.

And getting 135 int isn't a problem for warriors, right?

 

[Jermu]

int requirement should not be too bad since you can allocate 24 skill points for different weapon swaps (just pick int nodes and you get around 100 int, rest can be from shield and/or weapon)

spirit then is easy just some shitty scepter for example

 

[ArchAngel]

60 spirit should not be a problem.

And getting 135 int isn't a problem for warriors, right?

Do you need max level skill gem?

 

[anvi]

Sounds very much like a pay to win corposlop eh

What can you buy?

I am put off by the balance aspect. I thought the first game was boring because it was just running around non descript areas mashing a few buttons and hoards of enemies exploded. The talent tree was cool but ultimately worthless because I just picked obvious stuff and the game was still mindlessly easy. There's no point in having builds or talents if you can't make something unconventional and preferably with different actual gameplay as a result. Even shit like Skyrim allows for that to some degree. You can make a full cliche daggers rogue, or a ranger rogue, or a magic rogue that uses traps, or a tanky rogue, or whatever. Maybe you can do that in POE too but who cares when all enemies die instantly anyway?

I heard later on there are challenging bosses and then geeking out over builds becomes important. But I got a zillion levels and it was still the same "button ---> awesome" mashing silliness.

I hoped POE2 might go a different way, seems like it is the same. And maybe sometime they will nerf a bunch of things and it will become a slightly more limited version of the same thing which wont impress me and will annoy people who liked blowing shit up.

 

[Jermu]

 

[lukaszek]

Do you need max level skill gem?

we are discussing how you cant cover the distance so... yes. It grows with gem lvls, although my verious testings showed that movement speed might affect it too.

However, 19gem with +9spell still ownt be enough if you are unlucky.

 

[lukaszek]

physical decent enough to switch from ed? could use some variance and clearly that chaos wand is not happening any time soon...

 

[Hydro]

What can you buy?

I see people trading something, no?

 

[Kruyurk]

What can you buy?

I see people trading something, no?

You are bitching on every thread. I like the scepticism found on the Codex but you are a caricature of that.

 

[anvi]

What can you buy?

I see people trading something, no?

Trading in game is ok surely? I think pay to win is when you can buy stuff with real money.

 

[ArchAngel]

View attachment 60586

physical decent enough to switch from ed? could use some variance and clearly that chaos wand is not happening any time soon...

Try it, it only costs you some gold to respec. All your damage comes from Demon Form anyways.
Also Physical = BoneStorm.