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ArchAngel

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SSF is still irritating, not sure why I am playing it :D
I took advice of people here and went gambling, spend 500 000+ gold and managed to fix my resists and boost my ES but I could not do shit about damage of my Frost Mages. The whole damage depends on awesome jewels and good +X to minions gear and I cannot get those.. I picked most minion damage nodes on tree but that is all bad, I got all debuffs that reduce enemy cold resists and increase crit chance of mages but still means shit. It is all about +X to minion levels.. I got +2 from scepter and +1 from amulet (had +1 from helmet before but then I got better helmet and amulet with gambling so switched).
It is also very disappointing that since I started endgame with this character I dropped/crafted maybe one good item for current level, rest is either "anything is better than what I am using" or I had to gamble for it. I am trying to do tier 7 maps now, I can most of the time clear without dying but as soon as I try Breach I get swarmed and killed. Frost Mages are not doing nearly enough damage to take out the numbers that spawn in breach. I even added back FireWall and SRS for bonus damage and still nothing. Maybe it is also about minion AI or something.
I even got my first ever 5l jew drop and gave it to frost mages so I can put in another damage support but still they seem to do bad damage.
My setup is 2 warriors from +2 scepter with about 30% bonus spirit mod, Infernal dog, 1 shock mage to apply permanent shock to bosses, 1 cleric and 8 frost mages.
It is also irritating that there is no Convocation in PoE2, in PoE1 if I got swarmed I would use that to summon all of them next to me so they can clean up those closest to me.

I think I might reroll but I want to see today stream first to see what is getting nerfed/buffed.
 

lukaszek

the determinator
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protip, you can pay for 4th ascendancy carry the moment you unlock trial of sekhemas in normal campaign, so like level 20 something i guess. 35-40ex on TFT. best investment you can make early on besides buying gear
ssf

How are you upkeeping demon form in SSF? did you manage to get one of the uniques that people use for Demon Form?
potions, i only got ghostwrithe. When fighting unique bosses that dont spawn minions to replenish your flasks, i switch out of it.
In that case I started to use that unique bow which boosts quiver, so I run with +6 projectile level. I gamble like crazy to get at least +4 wand but so far no luck.
And I dont expect to play this one much anymore.

I took advice of people here and went gambling, spend 500 000+ gold and managed to fix my resists and boost my ES
This way I had capped resists when I entered maps. Random loot finds were useless.

good +X to minions gear and I cannot get those..
I feel you here. I throw currency at every scepter so I can switch to minions in future. Managed to get only single +3 one. Had only one helmet +2 from campaign and it got terrible stats. Somehow minion ups are rare when compared to others.

My setup is 2 warriors from +2 scepter with about 30% bonus spirit mod, Infernal dog, 1 shock mage to apply permanent shock to bosses, 1 cleric and 8 frost mages.

switch from frost mages to bombers(check proper supports, dont remember what I had, i think it was about shotgunning?). Go crazy with fire exposure and curse. I was cruising t7 with that setup easily.
Or do exploding archer instead?

I think I might reroll but I want to see today stream first to see what is getting nerfed/buffed.
i hope its grim feast heh... I switched out of it to run more 5l skellies instead and want to feel less bad about it!
 

ArchAngel

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protip, you can pay for 4th ascendancy carry the moment you unlock trial of sekhemas in normal campaign, so like level 20 something i guess. 35-40ex on TFT. best investment you can make early on besides buying gear
ssf

How are you upkeeping demon form in SSF? did you manage to get one of the uniques that people use for Demon Form?
potions, i only got ghostwrithe. When fighting unique bosses that dont spawn minions to replenish your flasks, i switch out of it.
In that case I started to use that unique bow which boosts quiver, so I run with +6 projectile level. I gamble like crazy to get at least +4 wand but so far no luck.
And I dont expect to play this one much anymore.

I took advice of people here and went gambling, spend 500 000+ gold and managed to fix my resists and boost my ES
This way I had capped resists when I entered maps. Random loot finds were useless.

good +X to minions gear and I cannot get those..
I feel you here. I throw currency at every scepter so I can switch to minions in future. Managed to get only single +3 one. Had only one helmet +2 from campaign and it got terrible stats. Somehow minion ups are rare when compared to others.

My setup is 2 warriors from +2 scepter with about 30% bonus spirit mod, Infernal dog, 1 shock mage to apply permanent shock to bosses, 1 cleric and 8 frost mages.

switch from frost mages to bombers(check proper supports, dont remember what I had, i think it was about shotgunning?). Go crazy with fire exposure and curse. I was cruising t7 with that setup easily.
Or do exploding archer instead?

I think I might reroll but I want to see today stream first to see what is getting nerfed/buffed.
i hope its grim feast heh... I switched out of it to run more 5l skellies instead and want to feel less bad about it!
Bombers? Fire skeletons?
My idea for using frost mages was about two things: 1. Have ability to chill and freeze enemies so I am safer 2. Not needing to use firewall and SRS
It kinda failed at both... I might try Bone Snipers instead but I need another 5l first and I fear anything will suck until I can get better +X minion gear.
 

TedNugent

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To take the mace warrior and make armor and shield slow down the movespeed AND dodge frames is just insulting. It's so fucking stupid I have no words.
This is definitely what I don't understand whatsoever. If it was better or an advantage, I would get it for sure.

But most serious attacks ignore armour entirely (elemental/Chaos, as well as big physical hits), and many of them ignore block (big hits, AoE), so you're left with dodging, but you have a move speed malus and a dodge malus? Inherently, armour + block seems good, best of both worlds, even, you basically have evade + physical reduction with your stat stick shield, so I understand why they are reluctant to improve it by changing mechanics, but armour needs at least some slightly less toxic scaling, I think. The one thing that blows me away is that unlike resistances, armour and evade degrade by around 1 percentage point with every level you gain. At least block doesn't do this, meaning it's easier to soft or hardcap. So I think block is still strong, but the scaling malus for Warbringer still makes it questionable to me, on top of being locked into a warrior ascendancy. Starting to wonder if I shouldn't have just gone Warbringer and dove into block stacking. Another reason I'm annoyed that respeccing isn't an option.

I'm honestly ashamed of how many times my warrior is dying in maps, so it makes me feel a little better at least that I'm not alone here.

Anyway, let's see what they have to say in 45 minutes on their Twitch stream, they're supposedly making a big upcoming patch overview, and I'm guessing they'll be addressing a lot of the incessant bitching here very soon.
 
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runes will be changeable, biomes will show on world map, and build changes are at least a few days away (if there will be any - he did mention boss/player power level adjustments being a ways away unless i misinterpreted)

also boss tablets, and more bosses spawning natty on the world map

6 attempts at pinnacle bosses too
 

Peachcurl

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I'll have to try the changes they made to towers, but it sounds like they missed the issue. Yes, that map was mandatory, boring and _potentially_ difficult due to the lack of view into rooms. But no one really cared because it's extremely fast to finish. People just dropped low tier waystones on those, and rushed through. Not sure they really addressed that.
 

frajaq

Erudite
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amusing that the main devs themselves still use the old tier mod numbering system (that they changed for some reason for PoE 2)
 

Jermu

Arbiter
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come at me chinese hackers
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Mark.L.Joy

Prophet
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More of the same as always then, nothing's changed even major patches are at seasonal pace big lmao. I wonder what the point was if it plays like a stunted poe1
 
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Changes to maps regarding rares/magic mobs/chests (around 30% more overall per map)
4 new Tower maps to add variety
Boss maps are more common
New tablet adds bosses to maps
Strongboxes made faster
Maps had clutter reworked to make things more visible
Important/deadly skills have priority when being shown
Further zoom on atlas
World Map loads faster
Biomes shown on map
60% more omens in ritual purchasing window
Better shop rarity in Expedition
Citadels spawn closer to start of the atlas
Citadels easier to see in fog of war
Pinnacle Boss has 6 portals/attempts
Citadel bosses nerfed
A ton of uniques buffed
Mod weighting is better on un-ID'd rares
Tiered rares slightly buffed/bugfixed to allow desirable mods to appear (e.g. attack speed on bows was filtered in tiered rares)
Can resocket runes on gear
Mobs and bosses nerfed, details in patch notes
Console item filters available
Lots of other various bug fixes
 

Jermu

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New tablet adds bosses to maps
well this makes irradiated tablet completely worthless
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resocketing is good, I was planning on buying another equipment since I wanted max mana instead of increased ES runes in few gear pieces
 

Peachcurl

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huh... so according to their discussion just now, bleed is supposed to circumvent ES? (in terms of application of the ailment, not just the damage ticks)

edit: if that is true, this means that CI builds are going to get fucked by bleeding mobs :lol:

edit2: wait, do mobs even apply bleeding, like ever? I'm actually not so sure I ever saw it, but even my life builds tend to have a low random amount of es from some non-optimal gear, so... dunno.
 
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Nekron

Literate
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Dec 31, 2024
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low lvl gear buffed
boo
the game become very boring when i getted many good the gears mid-act 2, and started 1-shot all bosses ez mode

zzzzzzz
they need 2 make game harder NOT easier
 

Quatlo

Arcane
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Nov 15, 2013
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I had around 150 hours in, didn't even see a single endgame temple on atlas, I honestly see nothing to do anymore since farming delirium/breach is pointless pain in the ass without MF (I only have around 50) and the rest of the game is a breeze. I'll wait for more patches I guess.
 

Jermu

Arbiter
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I had around 150 hours in, didn't even see a single endgame temple on atlas, I honestly see nothing to do anymore since farming delirium/breach is pointless pain in the ass without MF (I only have around 50) and the rest of the game is a breeze. I'll wait for more patches I guess.
according to few autistic tests seems like MF is not that big of a deal
about 100% mf seems to be sweet spot after that heavy diminished returns (and maps you run should have increased rarity and/or increased rare monsters so u can get ~100% rarity already just from map/delirium and some from tablets)

used my mirror for this, 3% lightning damage and 1 int away from hero editor item
same guy has 3-4 best wands so most likely abused instance crashing when crafting
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ArchAngel

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My impression from the interview last night is that they are happy with game being zoom zoom, they are just not happy that is starts being zoom zoom very soon as people hit endgame so they are going to make start of maps easier a bit and put more tutorials and quests.
Also no nerfs or real changes to anything soon, they want to wait for next economy restart for that and they said it is going to be like in PoE1 (while it was regular), every 3-4 months.

At least they confirmed that they are not happy with people killing pinnacle bosses in few seconds, they want it to last 1-3 minutes instead. That would need 100x nerf to damage, lets see how that works out.

Anyways, we will not see any real changes until next league restart so everyone can continue abusing whatever they are until then.

I think I might restart in trade with ranger bow blaster or I've seen similarly good Lightning crossbow build with witchfinder that will be cheaper due to crossbows being less popular.
 

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