Nioh: Feudal Era Dark Souls

[DawnrazorDCLXVI]

That's lame. I really liked the gigantic demon with the balls and chains. And the toad boss was creative.

 

[Talby]

Does this game have the same semi-nonlinear structure as the Souls games, or is it more straightforward? I'm sold on the combat/atmosphere but if it's just a series of levels that's a dealbreaker for me.

 

[sullynathan]

It's mission based and just a series of levels

 

[Hobo Elf]

Level based isn't always bad. See: Demon's Souls. However, the way they did it in NIOH is crap.

 

[Talby]

Damn, I won't be buying this on launch then. I'll wait for the GOTY version at half price.

 

[sullynathan]

 

[Hyperion]

...Don't tell me the final boss is going to be Nobunaga. Don't go down the Koei rabbit hole, for the love of God.

 

[sullynathan]

I think it is, I think the guy that keeps messing with the main character is trying to revive himself as Nobunaga.

 

[Hobo Elf]

so did any kwans buy this yet?

 

[DawnrazorDCLXVI]

so did any kwans buy this yet?

Tomorrow. I'll post my impressions. So far, what I've heard from the reviews, this is a 70+ hour long game, so I won't be able to give it a fair assessment until a few weeks from now--from what others have said, the game is a solid 9/10. I look forward to beating it.

Oh, and missions take place on an over-head map, so you can select which missions to go on. It's not a strictly linear game. I did not download the demo--I intend to give the full game a blind playthrough, without spoiling anything.

 

[Hobo Elf]

We already know how the mission screen looks since it was present in the tests. It's your typical stage select with some bonus missions thrown in there, nothing out of the ordinary. And from what I heard (from players) it's a 15-20 hour game if you rush it and a 25-40 hour game if you take your time. Which is fine, that's about the length of a typical Souls game. I'm still on the fence which is why I'm waiting for Codexer thoughts.

 

[Silva]

Still early in the game but I doubt it will be the instant classic some reviews are preaching. Aside from combat (which is indeed good) all other aspects go from average to mediocre. The Japanese-monster-fantasy aesthetics is something I liked when I was 12 years old. The narrative is a joke and so are the characters. The loot system is shitty and boredom inducing. The maps are ok so far but only because they copied Dark Souls shortcuts to bonfire concept. The environments go from washed grey dungeon to washed grey forest.

Hope it gets better and make me bite my tongue, though.

 

[sullynathan]

have they announced DLC ?

 

[cruel]

Yes, there will be 3 dlc, included if you buy Deluxe Edition for $80

Buying this today probably, wandering if I made a mistake by not switching to PS4 Pro for this


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[DawnrazorDCLXVI]

have they announced DLC ?

Three pieces incoming.

 

[Talby]

What's the performance like? I'm assuming it runs at only 30FPS, does it have a lot of framerate issues or input lag?

 

[Ivan]

there's a 60fps option

Spoiler

 

[sullynathan]

What's the performance like? I'm assuming it runs at only 30FPS, does it have a lot of framerate issues or input lag?

locked 60fps on the base PS4 but only 720p. Movie mode can go up to 30 but at 1080p mostly. The pro can do 1080p 60 and 4K 30.

 

[DragoFireheart]

holy shit this game trigger my inner weeboo.

 

[SumDrunkGuy]

I dunno, seems like they nailed the combat but everything else looks bleh. It lacks all of the other qualities that made From Soft's games so memorable.

Enemy design, environments, lore, atmosphere - it all looks bland as fuck. And it doesn't seem to add any notable spins on the player interaction stuff. It's just there, ripped from Dark Souls.

 

[MagusMelkor]

I dunno, seems like they nailed the combat but everything else looks bleh. It lacks all of the other qualities that made From Soft's games so memorable.

Enemy design, environments, lore, atmosphere - it all looks bland as fuck. And it doesn't seem to add any notable spins on the player interaction stuff. It's just there, ripped from Dark Souls.

This is exactly how I feel. The combat is there but that isn't all that the Souls series is. It's just bland to me.

 

[DragoFireheart]

I dunno, seems like they nailed the combat but everything else looks bleh. It lacks all of the other qualities that made From Soft's games so memorable.

Enemy design, environments, lore, atmosphere - it all looks bland as fuck. And it doesn't seem to add any notable spins on the player interaction stuff. It's just there, ripped from Dark Souls.

The combat is basically the whole game though. 1% of the game is story, 1% is scenery, 10% is items, 88% is combat.

- Stances heavily impacted both your weapon's moveset and ability to interrupt enemies and/or break their guard. It's like if Bloodborne weapons had three modes for each weapon to switch to.

- Blocking is a thing but not advisable unless it's for stopping quick attacks.

- Ki Pulse rewards strategic use of stances + dodges (once you learn the skills) both to quickly regenerate Ki (stamina) and dispel Yoki fields (anti-stam regen fields)

- All kinds of neat moves you learn.

- Enemies have Ki bars as well and don't mindlessly/endlessly swing like many Dark Souls enemies.

So far Nioh takes the souls combat and makes it something much more fun and strategic. The item system is similar to Diablo but also less tedious in many ways. Getting specific modifiers doesn't require hours of farming for that one item. Also, you can change the style of any weapon and armor to create a look you like.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Still early in the game but I doubt it will be the instant classic some reviews are preaching. Aside from combat (which is indeed good) all other aspects go from average to mediocre. The Japanese-monster-fantasy aesthetics is something I liked when I was 12 years old. The narrative is a joke and so are the characters. The loot system is shitty and boredom inducing. The maps are ok so far but only because they copied Dark Souls shortcuts to bonfire concept. The environments go from washed grey dungeon to washed grey forest.

Hope it gets better and make me bite my tongue, though.

You can make the same criticisms of NGB or DMC3 or God Hand, doesn't stop those games from being classics. If the combat in an action game is good enough, it can carry everything else, and rightfully so.

I don't think Nioh is at that level personally - it recycles content too much for my tastes and has a bit too much superfluous treadmill crap in it, like titles for example. Still, it's certainly more enjoyable to play moment-to moment than either DS3 or Bloodborne, so here's to hoping From get off their complacent asses and release a game with an actual combat system for once.

 

[Talby]

I wish the game had character creation because the main dude is kinda meh. Looks too much like Geralt. I hope there's at least some unlockable characters, either from beating the game or in DLC.

 

[Ivan]

is it fun?