Mass Effect New Mass Effect confirmed

[Iucounu]

Leave it to a vatnik to fanboy over a gypsy

I'd say the Quarians are a mix of Gypsies, Jews and Muslims. Excellent trolling by the developers there.

 

[Space Satan]

I remember how people argued how Deus Ex 2 would handle Deus Ex ending and what would they choose...only to find that in sequel they made it so EVERY choice hav у been made - both techno dark age and merging.
That was the problem with epic RPG choices - if you had some monumental choiced made and plan a sequel then you have add significant amount of work to represent consequences to previous choices or override them.
Biowhores fucked up with all of those mistakes - they failed to carry choices, which led to "import save" debacle, where they could not invent a tool to transmit binarry yes\no choices to a sequel.
And they overriden choices they lacked resources\talen to expand on. Rachni queen, suport for human supermacist faction etc. Lazy design - because it effectively kills any immersion and hrms replayability as you know dead end C&Cs.
Somy bet is that the'll ust choose one ending and build upon it, given Bioware's lack of talent.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Somy bet is that the'll ust choose one ending and build upon it, given Bioware's lack of talent.

Bioware will be dead before they even get halfway done with this game

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Somy bet is that the'll ust choose one ending and build upon it, given Bioware's lack of talent.

Bioware will be dead before they even get halfway done with this game

Nevertheless, EA will finish this game. Maybe ME will even be better for it.

 

[Camel]

Branka and Howe are the two most evil characters in the game, but Branka edges it out.

Branka has some quiestionable motives to brutally sacrifice her whole house but Howe is lacking true motivation to slaughter the second most powerful noble house in Ferelden. BioWare obviously copied the Red Wedding from the GoT books but we aren't given reasons why Howe commits the Cousland massacre or why almost no one reacts to it.

Loghain is a nationalist schizo overwhelmed by paranoia due to his past and really cares about the country on a plane higher than anyone else. He wasn't doing this as a power grab, as far as he's concerned he is able to defeat the Arch Demon without Wardens. Most misinterpreted character in the franchise.

Loghain is the last great and multidimensional villain in BioWare games after Irenicus and Sun Li. He's shown to be paranoid about Orlais and judging by Return to Ostagar DLC he was at least partially correct to be worried about the king and his daughter Anora who can be jailed by the player. He doesn't just commit evil deeds like usual moushtache-twirling villain, there is some logic. I love bann Teagan, he isn't afraid to challenge Loghain to his face and isn't cowered by queen Anora. Teagan is a great side character and should've played a far more important role. Loghain being able to join your party is a nice example of C&C and DA:O has it in abundance.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Branka has some quiestionable motives to brutally sacrifice her whole house but Howe is lacking true motivation to slaughter the second most powerful noble house in Ferelden. BioWare obviously copied the Red Wedding from the GoT books but we aren't given reasons why Howe commits the Cousland massacre or why almost no one reacts to it.

Howe's motives are actually pretty upfront, just requires a little bit of examination of his actions and words. His final words perfectly encapsulate who he is and why it happened; "Maker spit on you...I..deserved...more...".

Howe was a medium sized fish in a small pond with an inflated ego and the flawed view of thinking he deserved more than he had. He seized the only opportunity he would ever get to move up in the ranks and it did land him as the right hand of Loghain. However, what he did was unsustainable but there's a reason he never got to higher than he was in the first place. He was in over his head the entire game, a toddler at the adult dinner table.

Loghain is the last great and multidimensional villain in BioWare games after Irenicus and Sun Li. He's shown to be paranoid about Orlais and judging by Return to Ostagar DLC he was at least partially correct to be worried about the king and his daughter Anora who can be jailed by the player. He doesn't just commit evil deeds like usual moushtache-twirling villain, there is some logic. I love bann Teagan, he isn't afraid to challenge Loghain to his face and isn't cowered by queen Anora. Teagan is a great side character and should've played a far more important role. Loghain being able to join your party is a nice example of C&C and DA:O has it in abundance.

One of the most misunderstood characters I've seen, too many people attribute the "typical bad guy who is seizing a power grab" trope to him.

"I have not shirked my duty to the throne, and neither will any of you!"

He doesn't understand politics, it's all simple thinking to him. I.e. "Why the fuck are these people not joining me, we have to regroup and fight the darkspawn, why can't they just accept this for now???"

We can also speculate a lot of the evil deeds (not all) were the doing of Arl Howe, not Loghain. Howe was off doing his own thing and we even see scenes that suggest Loghain was not partial to everything going on. For example, when Howe hires Zevran to kill you.

 

[Fedora Master]

If you need to "speculate" about the story in BioWare games you're already overthinking it.

 

[frajaq]

 

[Old Hans]

speaking of other washed up, has been game developers....

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

i fucking hate liara, blandest character bioware has ever made and that's saying something

 

[Lacrymas]

Most of Mass Effect's companions are bland. Jack, Samara and maybe Mordin are the only ones who jump out to me as having some sort of personality that isn't either extremely overdone elsewhere or just bland. For a series with so much dialogue and character moments, we barely know anything about our squad mates.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

kasumi > Aria > everyone else

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Most of Mass Effect's companions are bland. Jack, Samara and maybe Mordin are the only ones who jump out to me as having some sort of personality that isn't either extremely overdone elsewhere or just bland. For a series with so much dialogue and character moments, we barely know anything about our squad mates.

And Jack is such a weird addition to Mass Effect, especially only looking at Mass Effect 2, the only time she's a companion. Just retarded

kasumi > Aria > everyone else

Retarded weeb opinions, this is why a shit character like Kasumi who doesn't belong in the setting gets added.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Bioware is like aging Hollywood star, such pity and sad.

 

[Iucounu]

i fucking hate liara, blandest character bioware has ever made and that's saying something

Her voice acting is not bland though. In fact it feels a bit creepy, but I can't pin-point exactly how.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Liara was fine when she was a "bland" nerd scientist, but still connected to the plot. Everything after Mass Effect 1 for her is a disgrace. Also got a book job like every other female

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Liara was fine when she was a "bland" nerd scientist, but still connected to the plot. Everything after Mass Effect 1 for her is a disgrace.

She's an obnoxious developer's pet in all three games. Javik bullying her throughout ME3 is one of the best parts of that game.

 

[Cologno]

i fucking hate liara, blandest character bioware has ever made and that's saying something

Her voice acting is not bland though. In fact it feels a bit creepy, but I can't pin-point exactly how.

Yea yeah, That combination of "come hither", seductive, and bunny boiler rolled into one.

 

[Jonathan "Zee Nekomimi]

Retarded weeb opinions, this is why a shit character like Kasumi who doesn't belong in the setting gets added.

says the man simping for two neurotics. You do you bud.

 

[toro]

this thread is boring. i need to go visit resetera

 

[jackofshadows]

You jest but do tell what loonies have to say anyway.

 

[Yosharian]

i fucking hate liara, blandest character bioware has ever made and that's saying something

Her voice acting is not bland though. In fact it feels a bit creepy, but I can't pin-point exactly how.

Yea yeah, That combination of "come hither", seductive, and bunny boiler rolled into one.

Almost like she's a fucking alien or something

 

[Cologno]

i fucking hate liara, blandest character bioware has ever made and that's saying something

Her voice acting is not bland though. In fact it feels a bit creepy, but I can't pin-point exactly how.

Yea yeah, That combination of "come hither", seductive, and bunny boiler rolled into one.

Almost like she's a fucking alien or something

True, amd you can fuck her too, but I had more in mind SHODAN (who tries to rape you on different levels, or as far that bitch was concerned - different plains of existence).

 

[9ted6]

Liara was fine when she was a "bland" nerd scientist, but still connected to the plot. Everything after Mass Effect 1 for her is a disgrace. Also got a book job like every other female

She got the Leliana treatment.

Fine character in the first game, mary sue developer pet with massively contrived importance in the sequels.

 

[Camel]

She got the Leliana treatment.

Fine character in the first game, mary sue developer pet with massively contrived importance in the sequels.

Liara was the writer's pet in all 3 games and she was removed from the team in ME2 so she can't be killed in the Suicide mission. Many BioWare fans complained about a preferential treatment she got. Leliana can be killed in DA:O and had a miniscule role in DA2, she's hardly a writer's pet.

Most of Mass Effect's companions are bland. Jack, Samara and maybe Mordin are the only ones who jump out to me as having some sort of personality that isn't either extremely overdone elsewhere or just bland. For a series with so much dialogue and character moments, we barely know anything about our squad mates.

Garrus is an ultimate bro and Wrex is great, Mordin has a compelling arc in ME2-3.