Wizardry Long Live Wizardry! (And The All-New Games By Ex-Wizardry Developers)

[Ventidius]

I'm just relieved to see that the game will get the PC release after all. Or so it seems anyway.

This should definitely be worth purchasing, even if it isn't as good as the Elminage games or SOSC. We gotta send the message out there that there is a market for these sorts of games.

 

[aweigh]

Yes. Very much agreed. They need to see there is interest.

 

[mindfields]

Rights for games in Japan has always been a mess, I think I remember reading an article about how many companies in Japan don't even bother with contracts.

 

[Ysaye]

Random question - has anyone bought the Katsuya Terada Busin Wizardry Artwork book, and (if so):

(1) Is it worth it?
(2) Does it have artwork from multiple games, or just Busin Zero?

 

[DRPG Book]

To learn more about publishing software, I decided to make an art book for Wizardy - Llygamyn Saga on the Saturn. I used screenshots posted @Slasher75976451 on Twitter. It's pretty basic, but helped me learn a lot about the software.

I posted the PDFs to archive.org here: https://archive.org/details/wizardrysatpages72dpi

 

[turkishronin]

 

[paintmyproblem]

tl;dr Here's a patch for reroll-free chargen for snes wiz6, compatible with or without english translation patch: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TKPyiVSghfMZ1uY-5RTFNk18EFdI2Wwm

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I love everything about wizardry... except rerolling new characters. I'd much prefer a point-buy system, classes that are locked only by accomplishments, prestige classes only after reclassing at level X, whatever. Anything but design that encourages hitting that reroll button ad-nauseaum.

So, sitting down to play wizardry 6 on the SNES (seems like a great port), after planning my party, and rerolling a few times, I broke down and made a patch to eliminate rerolling, cause I hate doing stupid repetitive shit.

You can patch it on top of the base Japanese rom, or after (and probably before) applying the translation patch: http://www.romhacking.net/translations/939/

When you create a character (race/gender), you'll be able to pick any class at the outset due to many bonus points. Then, while you freely allocate stats, the # of bonus points will be set to and remain at zero so you can stop anytime. Setting skills and spells (and everything else) is unchanged.

Wanna simulate rolling for hours to get a fairy ninja? - fine, just pick fairy ninja, allocate like 1 bonus point, and pretend you just mashed the buttons for 30 minutes.
Wanna be a munchkin or make a super solo character? fine, just pick whatever you want and set all stats to 18, you filth.

Eventually the patch will be on RHDN, unless they hate me or something.

If there's interest, I'll try one of these for gaiden IV sometime.

 

[DRPG Book]

Sounds cool. Thanks!

 

[rohand]

Kinda liked the OVA, was surprised

 

[TigerKnee]

Kono Werdna-sama

 

[rohand]

UERUDUNA

 

[aweigh]

it's a fun little piece of animation. they put a lot of attention to detail in it, including specifying why they can't simply use resurrection on the dead party member(s) at the end.

 

[AdamReith]

Just wanted to thank all contributors to this thread for introducing me to the wild world of wizardry.

I distinctly remember being intriqued by the back of an anthology edition as a child, particularily by the magic system which seemed fascinating.

Sadly, my IQ was impaired by pubescent hormones and I put it back on the shelf to buy NOLF2 instead. Like many men I made the mistake of choosing a sexy woman in a jumpsuit over the oppurtunity to languish in a dungeon for the remainder of my childhood in the company of dwarves and hobbits.

In any case, I have now located the SNES and PSX versions of Wizardry 1-3 and, while there's no way I'm going to progress in them while holding down a full time job, I can at least listen to the soundtrack while playing Operation Abyss: Tokyo Legacy; which I can now appreciate the design of.


Thanks again and have a fantastic day.

 

[aweigh]

In any case, I have now located the SNES and PSX versions of Wizardry 1-3 and, while there's no way I'm going to progress in them while holding down a full time job

That's actually one of the best things about these games, that they don't really waste your time. Every time you sit down to play it's 100% gameplay and "content". Ironically, this kind of turn-based dungeon crawling gameplay translates almost perfectly to "mobile" play, which is precisely why Etrian Odyssey games were so succesful.

 

[Valky]

How did Wizardry, being an originally American creation, become taken over by the Japanese?

 

[Viata]

How did Wizardry, being an originally American creation, become taken over by the Japanese?

Based Robert Woodhead's wife, Natsumi Ueki. She knew how to sell it to the japanese people.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

RatTower made my day.

 

[BlackGoat]

Dank meme

 

[Reality]

I don't know if this is just me or what but - I've always felt that Wiz 6-7 appeal in part to people who wouldn't play other DRPGs - I also feel like Wiz 1-5 have a strong "push your luck" aspect, ith how far you can go down before using the 2nd half of your resouces purely to survive the trip back to town, culminating in Malor / Titlowattt sharing the same slot - I think it comes it comes at the expense of Wiz 1-5 having most random encounters go "fight fight fight parry parry parry" except when you can justify burning spell slot resources (enemy has breath attacks / status effects) . Now Wiz 6-8 have a larger focus on "abstract combat" and stuff, and it's NICE, but I've never gotten the same Push your luck / spelunking feeling from them. Is this just me? I kind of feel like there has to be other people out there even though I see D.W.Bradley's game talked about more than Greenwood's...

 

[Ysaye]

I don't know if this is just me or what but - I've always felt that Wiz 6-7 appeal in part to people who wouldn't play other DRPGs - I also feel like Wiz 1-5 have a strong "push your luck" aspect, ith how far you can go down before using the 2nd half of your resouces purely to survive the trip back to town, culminating in Malor / Titlowattt sharing the same slot - I think it comes it comes at the expense of Wiz 1-5 having most random encounters go "fight fight fight parry parry parry" except when you can justify burning spell slot resources (enemy has breath attacks / status effects) . Now Wiz 6-8 have a larger focus on "abstract combat" and stuff, and it's NICE, but I've never gotten the same Push your luck / spelunking feeling from them. Is this just me? I kind of feel like there has to be other people out there even though I see D.W.Bradley's game talked about more than Greenwood's...

You meant Greenberg (not Greenwood) I think?

Yes I think most people here on the JRPG forum would agree with you that the attraction of Wiz1-5 and games like Elminage Gothic is the "spelunky" feel to them, whereas Wiz 6 - 8, Wizards and Warriors (and I presume Grimoire?) are more like what the Might and Magic series tried to cultivate in that series. It's not that I don't like the latter, but in terms of enjoyment and of game-playing, the simplicity of the game premise behind the original Wizardry games and their clones I find more appealing.

 

[Viata]

Well, I really think is that we lack games like Wiz 6~8. I mean, Grimoire is the only game like that released in what? Almost 20 years? I can't remember any other, tbh.

 

[Machocruz]

That is Wizardry to me. Go as deep as your resources and nerve sustain, come back up and regroup. It's not (only) a quest to kill the baddie, it's an expedition into the heart of darkness.

 

[Dorarnae]

so other than Nis game,coven labyrinth of galleria. any new game coming out? experience inc seems to be into visual novel now.

 

[RatTower]

Labyrinth of the Lost Souls will be released on the 15th of January.
Hopefully for real this time.

Speaking of japanese Wizardry:

There was a Wizardry: Dimguil for PS1.
I mistakenly thought this was just another bundle of remakes (like Llylgamyn Saga), but apparently it's its own thing.
Is Dimguil part of some series like Wizardry: Empire?

Besides that, I'm currently trying out Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land, which is very, very good.
I actually regret not getting it back in the day - saw it plenty of times at a store.

 

[Pyreen]

Is Dimguil part of some series like Wizardry: Empire?.

Yes, it's part of the Gaiden series, you can import your characters from Wiz Gaiden 3 and 4 through a password system.