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Let's bitch about STEAM! - The Thread!

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"This game requires a free steam account to play."


Yeah, right. Won't buy SP games that require a net connection to play, ever. I'd rather go buy 6 more games at GoG.
 

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I got a better question: What's a fucking FREE Steam account? o_O
 

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It implies that there's a non-free version of the account.

Not sure if it's what it means here, but free accounts are ones without any paid games on them. They aren't eligible for Steam contests and such. It's to help keep people from farming Summer/Winter sale events.
 

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It implies that there's a non-free version of the account.

It implies there is no cost to having one. You can get a variety of interpretations but I'm sure they just meant it to underscore the fact that having an account itself doesn't require a monthly service a la Xbox.
 

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It implies that there's a non-free version of the account.

It implies there is no cost to having one. You can get a variety of interpretations but I'm sure they just meant it to underscore the fact that having an account itself doesn't require a monthly service a la Xbox.

And that's what's wrong here. The "default" is a monthly fee account like Xbox Live. Consoletards are taking over the way things work and should be! Run! Run you fools!
 

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If it requires Steam, it means I get it for free. :)

Steam is one of the most malicious DRM platforms out there, only topped by Ubi's "always-online" DRM scheme.
 

TripJack

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Yeah, right. Won't buy SP games that require a net connection to play, ever. I'd rather go buy 6 more games at GoG.
you would rather give monies to a bunch of thieving pollacks than help fund gabe's coke habit? for shame
 

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Steam DRM

-requires online activation
-activation requires signing up for an account (unnecessary waste of time)
-activation requires downloading and running steam client
-playing game once activated requires running steam client
-signing up for an account requires divulging e-mail adress (you can make a junk e-mail, but that's just another time waste)
-unable to play games when not connected to the internet unless steam's offline mode is activated
-aforementioned offline mode can only be activated while connected to the internet

Steam DRM is not intrusive if you already use steam, but it is very intrusive if you do not. And the offline mode thing is just terrible.
 

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No reselling your game. You rent, you don't buy.
Valve can arbitrarily shut down your access if they feel you've violated their EULA (which you didn't sign at purchase but at installation, which makes it void even before the retarded nonsense in it makes it void). Hell, I've even had a discussion with a steam-apologist who was afraid to say anything bad about Valve on the codex for fear they'd shut down his ability to play his games.
Single player games require internet access.
Any problem server-side is directly transferred to client-side (Changing default settings only mitigates that).
When Valve has crashed and burned, so have your games. All your DVDs are worthless.
It's bloatware.
It's spyware.
And with the threat of you not being able to play the games you paid for, I also consider it malware.
Probably more that I'm forgetting or do not care about.

All those spiky sticks up the legal purchaser's ass don't bother the pirate one whit. He simply sails happily by.
We've had all these discussions a thousand times. Are you apologists trolling or just dense? Use Steam, if don't feel bothered by that stuff, but stop pretending it's not there, ffs...

The majority of Dungeon Siege fans bought it on launch I'm sure but I really have a hard time believing it was profitable considering the price drops and what it takes for something fairly big budget to be profitable these days.
Wut? DS3 shared a few names with the original DSs, nothing else. A DS-fan would have had no special reason to be interested in it. And I find it had to believe that many people do not inform themselves about games they spend 50 bucks on...
 

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Oh man looks like the 'Obsidian makes mediocre franchise license games' thread transformed into the 'Butt hurt about Steam/mountain out of a molehill game ownership' thread.
 

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Free anything account is a marketing ploy to get idiots to sign one. 'OMG I CAN HAVE AN ACCOUNT FOR FREE SOMEWHERE I CANT LET THIS OPPORTUNIY PASS!!!111' or 'Well I guess it couldn't hurt if I just made an account it doesn't mean I HAVE to buy anything there derp'. It's like those drug dealers that offer the first does for free, it's the exact same principle. Stop trolling/assping about it ok :)
 

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Fanboys gonna fanboy while sucking fat Gabe's dick.

There is absolutely nothing good that came out of Valve and their DRM shit. They only helped the decline with a crapload of indie shovelware and made DRM into a standard for the rest to follow suit. If you don't mind it ok but don't go around like a bunch of unpaid PR dumbfucks.

Obsidian since Alpha Protocol... no comments needed.
 

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I'm not a fan boy by any stretch of the imagination and Valve does a lot of shitty stuff. I also recognize the problems inherent in Steam it's just that... I don't give a fuck. The incessant bitching about Steam is just as old as the incessant fan boy praise of it. There's always the GOG forums for stroking off about game ownership rights and how vitally important they are to your everyday life.
 

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There is absolutely nothing good that came out of Valve and their DRM shit. They only helped the decline with a crapload of indie shovelware and made DRM into a standard for the rest to follow suit. If you don't mind it ok but don't go around like a bunch of unpaid PR dumbfucks.

Holiday sales, holiday sales, holiday sales.

Yes, handing out games almost for free generates a lot of fan loyalty. Why wouldn't it? It's probably the best reason to be a fanboy.

And btw, by that same logic, PirateBay has lots of fans because it gives the people shit for free. Not because of its ideological anti-IP political stance or whatever. People like you if you give them good stuff, it's pretty simple.
 

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