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KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk
Bitch ass nigga you don't have a barbarian in that line up. Sit down or I will replace all your games with Realms of Arkania HD.
 

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monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth
 

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Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk
Bitch ass nigga you don't have a barbarian in that line up. Sit down or I will replace all your games with Realms of Arkania HD.
Barbarian in this game is very good - namely one you can hire in the first 5 minutes of the game. You don't need one of your own. Also Samurai isn't that bad and we had a defender of Paladin class as well.
 

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Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture
Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk
Bitch ass nigga you don't have a barbarian in that line up. Sit down or I will replace all your games with Realms of Arkania HD.
I physically can't play the game without a Fighter, Gladiator, Cleric, Druid, Wizard, and Psionicist party. I just can't. :negative:
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
play tutorial first to not ask stupid questions later
Fun fact: the tutorial is harder than most of the actual game :lol:
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Abu Antar

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
 

belated

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Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk
Bitch ass nigga you don't have a barbarian in that line up. Sit down or I will replace all your games with Realms of Arkania HD.
Barbarian in this game is very good - namely one you can hire in the first 5 minutes of the game. You don't need one of your own. Also Samurai isn't that bad and we had a defender of Paladin class as well.
The half-giant is why I still haven't made a barbarian. Maybe next run I'll just use the 6 classes I still haven't tried in the main campaign: barbarian, champion, mage knight, paladin, sorcerer and warlock.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Tweed beat the game with a pure Kobold party, so nothing’s impossible.
Just make sure you have a psion, a cleric, and a wizard, it’ll make your life easier. Any combatant with grapple will be essential to deal with powerful casters.
I’ve no idea how long the game is exactly, but I’m sure it’s nowhere near 100h.
I wouldn't trust that Tweed guy. I think he's three kobolds in a trenchcoat.

 

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BTW, speaking of fighter builds, did anyone ever try to do a Mantis sorc/wiz with green moon attunement to get the 6 arms and then focus on mêlée? Talking about this:
Construct Transformation requirements: Level 15 Wizard or Sorcerer, Juron Attunement, Greater Spell Focus (Alteration), 250,000 gold, 20,000 XP, 1 Star Diamond.

Effects: You gain 50 extra Hit Points and Damage Reduction DR 10/magic. You gain Fire and Cold damage immunity. Your Base Attack Bonus (BAB) is upgraded from low BAB to medium BAB. Your size category increases by one, from Small to Medium, Medium to Large, or Large to Huge. You gain two extra arms (a Mantis would then have six arms). You receive a +4 bonus to Concentration checks and a +4 bonus to Strength. You gain 50% resistance to sonic damage and 50% vulnerability to acid damage.
In theory, it sounds interesting, but I never got around to do a replay and test it. Was it even possible to find 6 vorpal blades in the game? You’d be Death incarnate.


Maybe Owlcat or Larian or whatever should throw Pierre 500 grands and lend him an artist or someshit
For real, big studios should hire Pierre to program the enemy AI, then maybe we would have decent games more often.
 

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monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth

Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
Monks are the future. And also the past.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth

Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
Monks are the future. And also the past.
That's what they are, at present.
 

Litmanen

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monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth

Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
Monks are the future. And also the past.
That's what they are, at present.
You're just jealous. You wish you had a barbarian monk.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth

Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
Monks are the future. And also the past.
That's what they are, at present.
You're just jealous. You wish you had a barbarian monk.
I do, it's the barbarian with natural weapons proficiency and grapplimg feats.
 

Litmanen

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monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth

Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
Monks are the future. And also the past.
That's what they are, at present.
You're just jealous. You wish you had a barbarian monk.
I do, it's the barbarian with natural weapons proficiency and grapplimg feats.
I've drunk too much to argue about this.
 

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Tweed beat the game with a pure Kobold party, so nothing’s impossible.
Just make sure you have a psion, a cleric, and a wizard, it’ll make your life easier. Any combatant with grapple will be essential to deal with powerful casters.
I’ve no idea how long the game is exactly, but I’m sure it’s nowhere near 100h.
I wouldn't trust that Tweed guy. I think he's three kobolds in a trenchcoat.


That's catchy.

Just one.

Friendly reminder that my kobolds finished KotC2 version 1.0, the buggy, broken version that crashed when you tried to heal outside of combat and no balancing and no helpers. Party was 2 gladiators, 2 psions, 1 wizard (red), and 1 cleric. We picked up Erizmon which brought the kobold count to 7 and later on Pizarra who was obviously not a kobold, but she could be an honorary one considering her usefulness. 1.0 is still the hardest TRPG I've ever played.
 

rojay

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monk mantis is wonderful after dex to damage update, made ironman early game smooth

Younglings, please. Go fight in a shit thread, we have plenty of them.

Here we only condone prestigious and educated discussions, we don't insult each other. Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk.
The monk... fuck. The monk survived so many spells that would have killed a lot of other melee fighters. I was running him butt naked half of the time. He died over and over, but always stepped up in clutch moments.

Edit: You can make most melee classes viable, even if some are better than others. I would argue that summons will be your best friends, to take off as much heat from your party as possible.
Monks are the future. And also the past.
That's what they are, at present.
You're just jealous. You wish you had a barbarian monk.
I do, it's the barbarian with natural weapons proficiency and grapplimg feats.
I've drunk too much to argue about this.
Play whatever classes you want on normal difficulty. If you want the real cheat code, make sure your casters, if not every party member, takes improved initiative. You can get away with a lot when all of your characters act first in every non-ambush encounter.
 

Serus

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Maybe Owlcat or Larian or whatever should throw Pierre 500 grands and lend him an artist or someshit
For real, big studios should hire Pierre to program the enemy AI, then maybe we would have decent games more often.
Big studios don't want nor need, from their perspective, good enemy "AI". What for? To make 90% of customers unhappy (because it would show how bad at given game they are) or indifferent (because they play on easy or story mode) and maybe 10% happy? It wont pay the bills let alone make profit.
Good "AI" is possible only in indie games or in a few select genres of games. CRPG is not one of those genres. The sad thing is even indies often ignore this aspect and go with a simple, not challenging "AI".
 

Mauman

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Unless your frontline doesn't consist of the dream duo (a half-giant fighter and a mantis gladiator)... if you play any other melee class, you're a demented individual and should rightfully be called every slur known to mankind. Good God, imagine playing a Paladin, a Samurai, a Death Knight, or... or... I can't even say it... a Monk
Bitch ass nigga you don't have a barbarian in that line up. Sit down or I will replace all your games with Realms of Arkania HD.
Barbarian in this game is very good - namely one you can hire in the first 5 minutes of the game. You don't need one of your own. Also Samurai isn't that bad and we had a defender of Paladin class as well.
The half-giant is why I still haven't made a barbarian. Maybe next run I'll just use the 6 classes I still haven't tried in the main campaign: barbarian, champion, mage knight, paladin, sorcerer and warlock.
A half-giant barbarian is bar none the best grappler in the game.

The ability to just ignore all forms of concealment at level 1 as a swift action is just too good to ignore, and and can turn certain fights that are supposed to be hard due to dangerous targets with pre-buffs into a giant joke.
 

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All I want is a mod that swaps tokens for monster manual illustrations
 

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