Incline Grid Cartographer - Best Tool for Drawing Classic RPG Maps

[Palikka]

The newest version (v2.0.7 Pro Build 1099 64bit on Win7) crashes occasionally on me when using notes.

1. Create a note with few lines of text
2. Open the note and copy the text
3. Create a new note and try to paste the old text in it..

It has crashed maybe 3-4 times out of 10 when doing the above.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Darn! There was a report of a crash like this shortly before I released v2.0.7. I had a go a reproducing it but failed. So I sent a speculative build to the guy but didn't get a reply, so I figured I'd fixed it and released v2.0.7. Guess it's still broken, so I'll endeavour to resolve it !

edit: Thanks for the steps-to-reproduce, I managed to crash it, hooray! mysterious though.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

The newest version (v2.0.7 Pro Build 1099 64bit on Win7) crashes occasionally on me when using notes.

1. Create a note with few lines of text
2. Open the note and copy the text
3. Create a new note and try to paste the old text in it..

It has crashed maybe 3-4 times out of 10 when doing the above.

Apologies for the inconvenience caused by this, I've uploaded v2.0.8 here which should fix the problem:
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/files/grid_cartographer_v2_0_8.exe

If you have any other issues then please let me know. Thanks again for your helpful steps - the issue was related to selecting text and then closing the edit box. The selection markers weren't being cleared correctly so when you opened up a new note those bad values still lurked there and exposed a crash bug when typing or pasting into the box. I've made sure to clear the selection properly when the box is closed as well as fixing the underlying weakness to these invalid values. Fingers crossed that's the end of it!

I didn't get very far into what I had planned for v2.0.8 but here's the full change log:

* FIXED: Crash when pasting text into a new note after copying an old one.
* ADDED: Support for importing .PNG files that use an indexed colour palette (instead of RGB or RGBA)
* ADDED: Double click support for text entry (notes, labels, region names) to select words.
* FIXED: Potential for mouse clicks to leak through message boxes, causing undesired editing actions.
* CHANGED: Underlying engine no longer interacts with the XInput API.

Mac, Linux and Android updates will follow within a few hours.

 

[mindx2]

Hidden Asbestos A couple of requests that would be nice additions, if possible: 1) a door style for wide doors that take up to at least two grid sizes (like a large iron entrance portcullis), 2) terrain tiles that are half grid size to fit into angled corners. Again, great job on this and for your continued support of it...

 

[Grauken]

the install of 2.0.8 throws me some odd error and then proceeds anyway, not sure why

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Waylaid by IRL shenanigans, the Mac OSX version of v2.0.8 is now ready. Last, but not least, Linux.

the install of 2.0.8 throws me some odd error and then proceeds anyway, not sure why

Can you tell more? My total guess is because the installer program isn't signed, you're running Windows 8.x and the message was how I'm some kind of scourge or menace and shouldn't be trusted?

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Hidden Asbestos A couple of requests that would be nice additions, if possible: 1) a door style for wide doors that take up to at least two grid sizes (like a large iron entrance portcullis), 2) terrain tiles that are half grid size to fit into angled corners. Again, great job on this and for your continued support of it...

Thanks for the requests, and for the kind words The angled corner ground tile problem is a bit of a pain but I totally agree that it needs to be solved. Inspired by the results of my mom's mosaic classes I think some kind of 'tile snipper' tool might be a good idea to fix all the tiles automatically. But it'll need to be clear whether you want to keep the 'inside' or 'outside' of a tile, etc. so I'll need to have a think about a good UI for it.

 

[Grauken]

It says "ShellExecuteEx failed; code 299. - Only part of a ReadProcessMemory or WriteProcessMemory request was completed" then installs and then again. Program works, but I have no idea why that happened, 2.0.7 installed without a hitch

running on win 7

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

It says "ShellExecuteEx failed; code 299. - Only part of a ReadProcessMemory or WriteProcessMemory request was completed" then installs and then again. Program works, but I have no idea why that happened, 2.0.7 installed without a hitch

running on win 7

That's a new error to me, so I did some googling (the 'only part of a ...' bit ) and found 'set your drive to PIO mode' as a solution:
http://kb.monitorware.com/event-299-only-part-readprocessmemory-t409.html#p2610
Not ideal and if the software installs then probably not worth messing with.

Maybe I'm pessimistic but I sincerely hope it's not the first sign of a hardware fault for you ... :-(

 

[Grauken]

found one solution myself, http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...stalling/17b5c287-da94-44ba-8b41-8ffba76ba9af

when i switch on "run as administrator" the error disappears

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

And finally, the Linux v2.0.8 is now available.

found one solution myself, http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...stalling/17b5c287-da94-44ba-8b41-8ffba76ba9af

when i switch on "run as administrator" the error disappears

Glad to hear it. I'm using a pretty bog standard Inno Script setup, I guess it doesn't like not running as Admin. On my Win7 x64 system I get a regular UAC prompt when I run the installer. I've never tried tinkering with the UAC on Win 7 so I'm not aware of any incompatibilities.

Thanks for letting me know what fixed it.

 

[DefJam101]

Hey man, figured I'd drop in and say this might be the best twelve dollars I've ever spent. This program is fantastic.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Hey, I'm still working on Grid Cartographer v2.0.9. However in light of the release today of Elminage Gothic it seemed like a great time to publish a new beta version along with a new 'Ore Pile' tile added specially for that game.

You might get an in-program notification, or you can download the *Windows only* Beta 2 here:
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/files/grid_cartographer_v2_0_9_beta2.exe
NOTE: This build feels pretty robust but may naturally still contain bugs, so make backups of you maps! and, of course, if you find any bugs I'd love to hear about them.

Here's the change log for v2.0.9 so far:

* PRO: Moved the color palette onto the brush panel. Toggle on and off in Options > Interface
* PRO: New 'Ore Pile' marker in the Features section.
* ADDED: Additional smaller zoom level at 50% (16px).
* ADDED: Grid intensity slider in the Setup > Grid screen.
* CHANGED: Mono tile import when given a 4 channel PNG. Now uses the green channel for input (matching existing 3 channel behaviour). Black or Alpha=0 pixels are invisible.
* FIXED: Marker layer visibility toggle no longer affects block doors and walls.
* FIXED: Status bar cursor position not appearing during keyboard mode while mouse pointer was outside of window.
* FIXED: Status bar cursor Y axis value ignoring 'Repeating Values' setting.
* FIXED: Possible crash when importing paletted PNG images.
* FIXED: 'Swap custom tiles layer' tool is no longer enabled when there are no custom tiles loaded.
* FIXED: Bug where adjusting the grid X axis tile limit setting might be ignored.

There are a few little bits I want to clean up before I start up the all-platforms build extravaganza again, but this is probably close to what v2.0.9 will look like on Windows.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Hey everyone, Grid Cartographer v2.0.9 is now officially available on all platforms. As usual it's a free update with tweaks and fixes across the board. I hope you'll like the changes I've made to the note system. Playing Elminage Gothic with GC2 on my tablet, it became clear the number of taps to add a note wasn't good enough. With v2.0.9 it's now much more efficient to swap between wall drawing and annotation.

Download Here

I've covered many of the changes in my previous post, but here's the full list:
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1325

 

[Siveon]

Never change, man.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Hello again Grid Cartographer v2.1.0 is now available*! The focus of this release is to improve the image export capabilities.

Great news for role-players: Exported maps can now use a 70 pixel grid size and import directly into Roll20. Additionally I've brought back XML export for maps which turns Grid Cartographer once again into a game development tool. Finally I've fixed a number of bugs and annoyances such as labels getting cropped in image exports and being harder to select than they needed to be.

Download here (free update as part of v2.x series):
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Full Change Log:
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1332

* Mac and Linux versions will be available shortly.

 

[mindx2]

Hello again Grid Cartographer v2.1.0 is now available*! The focus of this release is to improve the image export capabilities.

Great news for role-players: Exported maps can now use a 70 pixel grid size and import directly into Roll20. Additionally I've brought back XML export for maps which turns Grid Cartographer once again into a game development tool. Finally I've fixed a number of bugs and annoyances such as labels getting cropped in image exports and being harder to select than they needed to be.

Download here (free update as part of v2.x series):
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Full Change Log:
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1332

* Mac and Linux versions will be available shortly.

Curious how this has sold... I'm hoping more people hear about this little gem because it's a wonderful tool.

 

[bussinrounds]

It just crashes when I try to load any maps I saved. I'm using the free OSX version and I'm on Yosemite 10.10.1, btw.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

It just crashes when I try to load any maps I saved. I'm using the free OSX version and I'm on Yosemite 10.10.1, btw.

Sorry to hear that. Can you e-mail me your map file? This will help eliminate any general issues and we can take it from there. Apologies for the inconvenience.

 

[bussinrounds]

It just crashes when I try to load any maps I saved. I'm using the free OSX version and I'm on Yosemite 10.10.1, btw.

Sorry to hear that. Can you e-mail me your map file? the address is contact at ~my website domain~ dot com . This will help eliminate any general issues and we can take it from there. Apologies for the inconvenience.

Just sent it.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

It just crashes when I try to load any maps I saved. I'm using the free OSX version and I'm on Yosemite 10.10.1, btw.

Sorry to hear that. Can you e-mail me your map file? the address is contact at ~my website domain~ dot com . This will help eliminate any general issues and we can take it from there. Apologies for the inconvenience.

Just sent it.

I've updated my Mac to OSX Yosemite but I've been so far unable to reproduce the crash in v2.1.0 of Grid Cartographer. Are you definitely running the latest version of GC? Once I get it to crash I should be able to fix it, but right now it seeeeeems to run okay. I haven't given up, just a bit unsure what to do right now ...

 

[bussinrounds]

Yup. 2.1.0

Here's the crash report I get when I try and open a map file..

Spoiler

Process: Grid Cartographer [4600]
Path: /Users/USER/Documents/*/Grid Cartographer.app/Contents/MacOS/Grid Cartographer
Identifier: com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer
Version: 2.0.9 (???)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: Grid Cartographer [4600]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2014-11-30 09:20:36.832 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.10.1 (14B25)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: 0B91451C-295C-C672-7A2D-8EF25A852464

Sleep/Wake UUID: 83DDA805-CF7F-48C0-8B49-77A01629C1FE

Time Awake Since Boot: 110000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 1100 seconds

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000

VM Regions Near 0:
-->
__TEXT 0000000108ba9000-0000000108cbd000 [ 1104K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Users/USER/Documents/*/Grid Cartographer.app/Contents/MacOS/Grid Cartographer

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 GLEngine 0x00007fff88741c76 gleRunVertexSubmitImmediate + 9414
1 GLEngine 0x00007fff8860e8ce glDrawArrays_Exec + 626
2 com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer 0x0000000108c5763c HcDirectRender::DirectRender(HcArray<HcDirectRender::sBatchedSession> const&) + 96
3 com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer 0x0000000108c57461 HcDirectRender::Flush() + 69
4 com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer 0x0000000108bbc19c cEditor::RenderEditorViewport() + 5740
5 com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer 0x0000000108bbaa42 cEditor::Render() + 130
6 com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer 0x0000000108bda77e -[cGLView haEngineObjCUpdate] + 103
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff92be9023 __NSFireTimer + 95
8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8ad39b44 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8ad397d3 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 1059
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8adacd9d __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 301
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8acf6268 __CFRunLoopRun + 2024
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8acf5838 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 296
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff86e3a43f RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 235
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff86e3a1ba ReceiveNextEventCommon + 431
15 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff86e39ffb _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 71
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8ed316d1 _DPSNextEvent + 964
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8ed30e80 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 194
18 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8ed24e23 -[NSApplication run] + 594
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8ed102d4 NSApplicationMain + 1832
20 com.davidwaltersdevelopment.Grid-Cartographer 0x0000000108baa164 start + 52

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff872e822e kevent64 + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff9102aa6a _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52

Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff872e7946 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4724a1 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff872e252e mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff872e169f mach_msg + 55
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8acf6b14 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 212
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8acf5fdb __CFRunLoopRun + 1371
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8acf5838 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 296
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff8ee947a7 _NSEventThread + 137
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4742fc _pthread_body + 131
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c474279 _pthread_start + 176
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4724b1 thread_start + 13

Thread 4:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.opengl.cvmDoWork
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff872e6806 __bsdthread_ctl + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff9102b2d7 _dispatch_queue_drain + 958
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff9102cecc _dispatch_queue_invoke + 202
3 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff9102a6b7 _dispatch_root_queue_drain + 463
4 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff91038fe4 _dispatch_worker_thread3 + 91
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4746cb _pthread_wqthread + 729
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4724a1 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff872e7132 __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff92be8889 -[NSCondition wait] + 237
2 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff92bb3f29 -[NSObject(NSThreadPerformAdditions) performSelectornThread:withObject:waitUntilDone:modes:] + 823
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff92c215e5 -[NSObject(NSThreadPerformAdditions) performSelectorOnMainThread:withObject:waitUntilDone:modes:] + 87
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8ad30886 ___forwarding___ + 518
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff8ad305f8 _CF_forwarding_prep_0 + 120
6 com.apple.imageKit 0x00007fff905fb341 -[IKTaskManager taskLoop] + 149
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x00007fff92beab7a __NSThread__main__ + 1345
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4742fc _pthread_body + 131
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c474279 _pthread_start + 176
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff8c4724b1 thread_start + 13

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x00007fff88741c5f rbx: 0x0000000000000006 rcx: 0x0000000000000000 rdx: 0x00007fff88742468
rdi: 0x0000000000000027 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff57054070 rsp: 0x00007fff57053e20
r8: 0x0000000000841804 r9: 0x00007fbb5b129400 r10: 0x000060800019e0e0 r11: 0x3f80000042ec0000
r12: 0x0000000000000004 r13: 0x00000000000020a0 r14: 0x3f80000042ec0000 r15: 0x3f80000000000000
rip: 0x00007fff88741c76 rfl: 0x0000000000010246 cr2: 0x0000000000000000
Logical CPU: 2
Error Code: 0x00000004
Trap Number: 14


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[DefJam101]

Hello again Grid Cartographer v2.1.0 is now available*! The focus of this release is to improve the image export capabilities.

Great news for role-players: Exported maps can now use a 70 pixel grid size and import directly into Roll20. Additionally I've brought back XML export for maps which turns Grid Cartographer once again into a game development tool. Finally I've fixed a number of bugs and annoyances such as labels getting cropped in image exports and being harder to select than they needed to be.

Download here (free update as part of v2.x series):
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/tools/gridcart/

Full Change Log:
http://www.davidwaltersdevelopment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1332

* Mac and Linux versions will be available shortly.

Curious how this has sold... I'm hoping more people hear about this little gem because it's a wonderful tool.

Bump. I would also be curious to hear some rough sales figures. This really is an awesome tool, but I wonder how large of a market there is for oldschool grid-based roleplaying game utilities.

 

[Hidden Asbestos]

Curious how this has sold... I'm hoping more people hear about this little gem because it's a wonderful tool.

Bump. I would also be curious to hear some rough sales figures. This really is an awesome tool, but I wonder how large of a market there is for oldschool grid-based roleplaying game utilities.

Since launching GC2 I'm pleased to have sold just over 300 copies of the Pro edition. I'm very grateful for that level of support both in sales but also for all the nice e-mails and forum posts I get about it. I suspect, as you do, there's a relatively low limit to the number of people interested in a niche product like this but if those people are happy then that's still a win in my book.

I do get the odd outlier customer as well. Aside from the core market of cRPG gamers and tabletop players I've had mails from a MUD designer, someone on here said they planned a room with it and I got a mail once from an urban developer who found it easier to use than CAD software. It's random stuff like that that makes this extra fun to work on, even if it can't be full time yet.

 

[naossano]

Does that mean the multiplication of indie grid based RPG ?