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KeAShizuku

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It's all about the offline installers. That's GOG's entire value. Everything else is just a "worse than steam" experience.
It's not just that, there's a few GOG-only must haves too. SMAC, the non-shitty (and complete) version of Heroes 3 and the M&M blobbers, Emperor Rise of the Middle Kingdom (no idea why is that, as all the other latest Impressions city builders are available on Steam). Though 3 might be the better game I'm a big fan of Caesar 2 as well and it's a GOG exclusive too.

If you're a Sierra fan, their Steam catalog is quite incomplete. Dagger of Amon Ra, Colonel's Bequest, Freddy Pharkas, Torin's Passage and a few others are GOG exclusives.

They were called good old games way back. I wouldn't use GOG over Steam for anything new.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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I posted this on another thread as delisted shit annoys me.

"Can't get old consortium anywhere eh? Esp Gog.
https://www.idgi1.ca/consortium-remastered

https://delistedgames.com/consortiu...com-and-steam-ahead-of-remastered-re-release/

I need to follow various delistings more carefully. I don't think i ever added the game to my library but I really don't know. As of yet, I haven't re-downloaded my library since early 2020. I do a few dls here and there, try them, then go meh.

Funny think early 2000. If I had a high speed link (one of the non-dialup shit and early fiber), I could have probably had a massive library from every source peddling them. That's what rich lazy people should do; pirate and archive. Oh well.
 

Azdul

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It's all about the offline installers. That's GOG's entire value. Everything else is just a "worse than steam" experience.
It's not just that, there's a few GOG-only must haves too. SMAC, the non-shitty (and complete) version of Heroes 3 and the M&M blobbers, Emperor Rise of the Middle Kingdom (no idea why is that, as all the other latest Impressions city builders are available on Steam). Though 3 might be the better game I'm a big fan of Caesar 2 as well and it's a GOG exclusive too.

If you're a Sierra fan, their Steam catalog is quite incomplete. Dagger of Amon Ra, Colonel's Bequest, Freddy Pharkas, Torin's Passage and a few others are GOG exclusives.
They were called good old games way back. I wouldn't use GOG over Steam for anything new.
Steam could have made GOG redundant - by being a little more customer friendly. If the game is released on GOG - there is really no good reason why Steam should not offer offline installer - or at least DRM-free version of the same game.

However - Valve is more concerned about EA, Ubisoft, Take 2, Microsoft, Epic making their own Steam competitors - so they bend over backwards to please publishers. And the publishers such as Take 2, Ubisoft, Capcom push as far as they can the concept of not owning the game you've bought on Steam - while still developing their own platforms that compete with Valve - to have leverage over the platform.

I would prefer the future where pressure from GOG, Zoom, itch.io forces other platforms - like Steam or EGS - to abandon the idea of putting another layer of DRM on top of 30 years old classic games. You've bought it - you own it - and are free to run in a way you like it - on whatever system, whatever architecture, whatever emulation layer, etc.

If free market competition won't be enough to ensure that classics are available - the only way forward is sweeping legislation that makes code and assets older than 40 years - public domain. Failed attempts at shutting down archive.org prove that society at large does not really think that copyrights should last forever.
 
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A lot of Steam games are actually DRM free, and it's more than likely that if it's on Steam and GOG the game is also DRM free, save for individual cases.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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That's sad. I hope this isn't some sort of GOG strategy to put delisting dates up in hopes people buy before the game is delisted. You snooze you lose mentality.
 
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That's sad. I hope this isn't some sort of GOG strategy to put delisting dates up in hopes people buy before the game is delisted. You snooze you lose mentality.
Nah similar delistings have happened in the past. It's just that this is the first time a game that's in EA and regularly updated gets delisted.
 

KeighnMcDeath

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And if one did pick it up, it'd stay in your library but never get updates right? I've not seen a fighting game of this style tbh. I wonder what is planned for it away from GOG.
 

ERYFKRAD

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yeah it will stay as it is. you'll be stuck with an outdated copy of the game.
Apparently not, which makes delisting even more bizarre decision.
Additionally, the Publisher informed us that the game will continue receiving updates to retain parity with versions from other storefronts.
Not entirely bizarre, I suppose they'd have to bear the brunt of the refunds if the game gets orphaned on gog
 

Modron

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Not entirely bizarre, I suppose they'd have to bear the brunt of the refunds if the game gets orphaned on gog
He's saying it's bizarre they aren't going to continue selling it on gog while continuing to support it. But who knows maybe it only moves like 12 copies a year over there.
 
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Yeah. GOG users are not big EA fans. I remember it was seen as a sign of decline. It also meant that the DOS games never made it to gog until the full releases came out though.
 

AfterVirtue

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Yeah. GOG users are not big EA fans. I remember it was seen as a sign of decline. It also meant that the DOS games never made it to gog until the full releases came out though.
Well, i surely am not one. I'd like for the game to go back there, when and if it will be complete (and if there will still be offline installers on gog). EA shall not pass.

:whiteknight:

Or something.
 
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Yeah but it hurts the business when an EA game gets big and delivers and GOG users missed out on it. It's very difficult for GOG to stick to their principles and remain a profitable business.
 

AfterVirtue

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I agree, it hurts, but to risk with EA without guarantees hurts my wallet. And his current health can't stand these injuries, the poor thing.
 

Azalin

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GOG still has a message that their online services are off,what the hell was that upgrade that they made
 
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GOG still has a message that their online services are off,what the hell was that upgrade that they made
They've been moving things around since yesterday. Since the top selling games list isn't showing, my best bet is that they're trying a site redesign.
 

flyingjohn

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I have officially given up on GOG.
-Dos releases are garbage compared to exodos
-Non dos emulated stuff is the most laziest broken shit
-Games come bundled with random shit nobody asked. TOEE is still bundled with co8 without a actual vanilla option
-Random denies of games being on the platform
-Galaxy is a complete joke that was not needed
-No proper way to check up on what was updated if there are no patch notes

Goldberg and clean steam files are somehow a better deal.
 
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can you make it so you can choose which games do you want from exodos? because it's either the 700gb install or the standalone client from what I've seen. I also remembered I had the DND Anthology (IE games + TOEE) from gamersgate, and it's the gog files, but an earlier version. BG1 and 2 still use the launchers instead, which was something the really early releases of those games did.

Bloodlines has the unofficial patch installed too. The Steam version is truly vanilla in that sense.
 

AfterVirtue

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-No proper way to check up on what was updated if there are no patch notes
That is the worst, coupled with the inability (or at least in a case by case basis, it seems https://af.gog.com/forum/general/how_to_download_old_versions_of_games?as=1649904300) to have earlier versions if you need them for some reason (like, a patch fucking up everything or some useful tool that is made useless with the new build).
 

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