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Fallout Fallout: The Frontier - New Vegas mod set in Portland and full of prosperous content

DeepOcean

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Man, the poster that said the NCR main campaign is like Call of Duty directed by Hideo Kojima, just dont know how right he is. I mean, yeah, they are lefty losers but I dont like to shit on other people work just because I dont like them but what I saw was way too funny for me to not comment here, they really tried and the scripting is well done, the cutscenes are really complex and they suprisingly not fall apart, kudos to their programmers, world designers and animators that took blood from stone here but whomever was in charge of gameplay and writing... Jesus.

Dear Lord, I think I will keep playing this because what I saw was so funny that Im really curious about how it will end up. What will be the next exploit of the legendary courier? Become the NCR general after Blackthrone heroically dies for his men? I feel like Solid Snake already.
 

oregano12

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Man, the poster that said the NCR main campaign is like Call of Duty directed by Hideo Kojima, just dont know how right he is. I mean, yeah, they are lefty losers but I dont like to shit on other people work just because I dont like them but what I saw was way too funny for me to not comment here, they really tried and the scripting is well done, the cutscenes are really complex and they suprisingly not fall apart, kudos to their programmers, world designers and animators that took blood from stone here but whomever was in charge of gameplay and writing... Jesus.

Dear Lord, I think I will keep playing this because what I saw was so funny that Im really curious about how it will end up. What will be the next exploit of the legendary courier? Become the NCR general after Blackthrone heroically dies for his men? I feel like Solid Snake already.

Do I sense that you are slowly starting to to warm up to the mod? :smug:
 

The Jester

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Man, the poster that said the NCR main campaign is like Call of Duty directed by Hideo Kojima, just dont know how right he is. I mean, yeah, they are lefty losers but I dont like to shit on other people work just because I dont like them but what I saw was way too funny for me to not comment here, they really tried and the scripting is well done, the cutscenes are really complex and they suprisingly not fall apart, kudos to their programmers, world designers and animators that took blood from stone here but whomever was in charge of gameplay and writing... Jesus.

Dear Lord, I think I will keep playing this because what I saw was so funny that Im really curious about how it will end up. What will be the next exploit of the legendary courier? Become the NCR general after Blackthrone heroically dies for his men? I feel like Solid Snake already.
So you're saying that it's so bad that it's good?
 

Funposter

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my friend is playing it and thinks it sucks, but he's also said that it's somewhat bearable on account of being a bad first person shooter, rather than a bad RPG. like it's easier to deal with shit when you're on rails and don't really need to engage with the content in any meaningful way. he's also playing it entirely vanilla and gets the feeling that the devs playtested everything with loads of combat mods installed, based on trailer footage etc. and the overall design pointing towards what the devs find fun.

Man, the poster that said the NCR main campaign is like Call of Duty directed by Hideo Kojima, just dont know how right he is. I mean, yeah, they are lefty losers but I dont like to shit on other people work just because I dont like them but what I saw was way too funny for me to not comment here, they really tried and the scripting is well done, the cutscenes are really complex and they suprisingly not fall apart, kudos to their programmers, world designers and animators that took blood from stone here
yeah, this is the other thing. it's apparently really impressive on a technical level that any of this stuff works at all, let alone works fairly well, but it's all in service of nothing.
 
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DeepOcean

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Well, guise, next episode, they seem to love Call of Duty because the next mission is, you need to destroy Legion AA guns to save the legendary courier, but if you are captured, how are you supposed to save yourself?

The mission goes on and the NCR lose half its Vertibird fleet to the legion AA guns just to save you, tons of NCR troopers cant even see your awesome legendary face.

Dont worry, you control HardCase now, man, this dude is really hard, bullets fly from him and they cant leave a scratch on him, he also has a grenade launcher that work more like a machinegun and can reload his shotgun in such a speed that you can barely see his hands. He also regenerates his health without stimpacks.

So, you go around controlling HardCase with Hotshot and some woman while they mow down legion troops and you place explosive charges on the AA guns.

Well, it isnt only that because there is a system where you can requisition stuff from helicopters like artillery strikes, reinforcemnts and etc. Problem, is why you need all that if you have HardCase, the dude is tougher than a Terminator, NCR with soldiers like this doesnt need punny helicopters.

So, you mow down legion soldiers and I only used the requisition stuff more to see how it worked than because I needed, HardCase, even on very hard is all you need.HardCase is so hard that experience you get with him also level the courier up, he is a true bro, even with a neural link, I suppose.

Well, half way through, some legion dude starts speeching on the megafone that he is going to eat me, well, I kinda pity him because the voice acting reminded me of a Down Syndrome child, so I wont mock him any more because that isnt politically correct.

Yeah, the legion dude keeps yelling he gonna devour me and Mars something or some strange shit, because, you know, Legion is a bunch of evil Drumpf supporters if you didnt notice so far. Nuance, who needs that? Well I reach the retarded Legion chief and just unload 20 shotgun shots on his face on a single VATS, well... such an incredible FPS and well balanced too.

My problems however got worse because it all culminated on a tank boss fight, where a tank is completely invulnerable to anything you shoot at it and the only way for you to explode it is with anti tank guns requisitioned by helicopter.

I call the anti tank gun and strangely, it comes down in a box dropping by parachute, the parachute fallen down on fire, what was a bit strange but I just got the gun and used on the tank. Oh, oh, it is a single shot weapon. No problem, I will call another...

Unfortunately, I was a bit too reckless about saying their scripts work well, and here it comes the bad news , the helicopter wont drop another one and the tank is immune to everything I can use on it, including artillery fire and carpet bombs because that is incredible game design guise, you can only destroy this tank with this specific anti tank gun that the helicopter wont drop, so without a fix to this, the adventures of the legendary courier ended.

About me warming to the mod, not much that, Im more sad because I can see some dude spent hours upon hours on some of those cutscenes and they even look well made but on such garbage engine, Gamebryo doesnt work for a shooter at all, and the writing is akin to an episode of G.I. Joe, I mean, it is hilarious seeing someone turning New Vegas into G I Joe but I dont think the modders would take that as a compliment.
 
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Alphons

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How's the side content in this?

Fallout of Nevada

Side content was absolutely fantastic but the main plot had a really bad pacing
plus whatever stuff happens at the end with a psionic wizard called Soul Reaper that can regenerate his body and infodumps you about a super secret government faction that transfers their minds into clones made in Vault 8 to live forever.

I haven't played Sonora, so can't talk about it. Resurrection plot was alright.
 

oregano12

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You get a perk for having sex with the lizard queen after completing her side-quest.
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Alienman

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Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Codex Year of the Donut Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I don't get it, is the game categorized into three parts? Do you have to do the NCR stuff first or something? Why not leave the NCR and do other stuff.
 

Nm6k

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I don't get it, is the game categorized into three parts? Do you have to do the NCR stuff first or something? Why not leave the NCR and do other stuff.
From what I can tell you start off with the Exiled NCR but during the scene when you are geting interrogate by Legate Marcus if you have a reputation of like(or idolized if you are playing as a female) with the Legion back in the Mojave Desert you get an option to say hey stop torturing me I'm with you. For the Crusaders some random girl runs up to you with an offer to join them
 

The Dutch Ghost

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Ugh, this mod barely has anything to do with Fallout. At least what normally its content focus was.
Truth be told I pretty much suspected this type of game play from when I saw those trailers and as people here pointed out, focusing on the combat aspect of FO3/FNV is not exactly the best way to go.
I liked FNV's DLCs but damn didn't the combat feel like filler sometimes, and here it goes up to eleven while imitating the writing and design from modern shooters.

I haven't played Sonora, so can't talk about it. Resurrection plot was alright.

I found it way better than that of Fallout of Nevada.
Sadly I heard from people that Sonora's plot or at least design feels rushed.
 
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DeepOcean

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Okay, played some more, every single NCR mission have serious design issues that make the basic gamebryo jankyness even worse, the first real mission have you following a tank but if you get too close to the tank you die because it doesnt block the AoE damage from attacks, if you dont have a rifle, you cant do shit and actually standing in front of it is a bad idea because the ai will blow you up.

The next mission involves you placing explosive charges on some Legion AA guns and the thing is so horribly unbalanced that you pratically cant die and have ridiculous number of VATS attacks.

The next mission is even more infuriating, you have to recover the bodies of some NCR soldiers but the whole place is filled with snipers and mined, you cant disarm the mines and the sniper cheat, even if you are hidden, they always know where you are. After I reached the bodies, I died three times to some sniper that I couldnt see until I realized that after you grab the bodies, the game spawn a new sniper on the way you came from. I'm also not sure if they fire through walls because I died on some places where it was pratically impossible to hit me.

Also, man this mod feels like a parody, There is a certain point on the NCR main quest where a character dies a tragic heroic death, including a dramatic death scene. The problem is that this is gamebryo and you watch the dude being shot by 7 legionaires with high caliber weapons and stand in there with no impact reactions whatsoever, it is unintentionally hilarious.I was just waiting for the moment Charlie Sheen would appear HotShots! style.

There is a funeral later for those NCR soldiers and not only the soldiers are claiming you as the legendary chosen one, even Blackthorne enters on the fanboy club, claiming you the chosen one. So, a guy that deserted because he didnt want to have his soldiers dying in vain, just sacrifices his best soldiers to just rescuing you? Unfortunately, modders arent on that thing called logic. The whole funeral scene was cringe and copied straight from Call of Duty again including a press F to pay respects prompt.

It is a pity, because their ideas for missions arent bad but are horribly executed on top of Gamebryo. Why of all the things they could do, their idea was just to spend 5 years turning New Vegas into CoD? Who ever wanted that? Wouldnt prison sentence be a better waste of time? Those missions would be so much better if there was actually level design on them. If things keep this way... for every good animaion like the vertibird one there is another like the spider animations, I turned the arachnophobia option on not because I have fear of spiders but because their animation is really terrible.

I also liked that they added vehicles and they handle surprisingly well, there are also new guns and the urban zone is actually well designed from a visual point of view, playing the mod makes me miss New Vegas but for every little thing the mod does right, it just goes retarded on so many others. Progressing the main quest seems like a huge waste of time so I will try some side content to see if it gets better.
 
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The Jester

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I don't get it, is the game categorized into three parts? Do you have to do the NCR stuff first or something? Why not leave the NCR and do other stuff.

From what I can tell you start off with the Exiled NCR but during the scene when you are geting interrogate by Legate Marcus if you have a reputation of like(or idolized if you are playing as a female) with the Legion back in the Mojave Desert you get an option to say hey stop torturing me I'm with you. For the Crusaders some random girl runs up to you with an offer to join them

I was under the impression that there are three routes you can go in the mod.


Xilandro said:
You can start exploring as soon as you get out of the NCR truck. Just turn around and get out of there. Right outside the Airport entrance, you'll find Esther.
 

Inconceivable

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I'd be inclined to agree with your sentiment, problem is that the devs for this mod sperged out about modern politics and other retarded topics as seen here: https://vocaroo.com/1hTolZvFdCtK
"Encalve is a fascist power fantasy!"
"Lizards aren't trump supporters!"
"The enclave and legion are trump supporters!"
"We didn't add enclave option since we don't support the power fantasy!"

Spouting these kinds of lines tend to generate some animosity. Myself included.

Well, life is political. Fallout is very political. People are going to be political about things. Nobody has to accept other people's opinions, but I think it's important to accept that other people will have different opinions. That's a good thing, as it makes life more interesting, varied and humanity as a whole more flexible and adaptable than if we lived in a global harmony of consent. The right way to deal with this beneficial state of affairs is to debate. The less productive way is to lay back and say "You and everything you do sucks!"

Trump supporters are lizard people.
 

Sweeper

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Alright guys, I'll solve it for you. Uninstall Frontier if you have it installed and just go play Dust.
The big dick combat only mod.
 

RangerBoo

Arcane
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The Homeless Paradise of Washington State
Why are Fallout modders so retarded?
Because a lot of these modders want to get their foot in the door in the game industry. Since the Western game industry is a toxic cesspit filled with SJW's many modders have also adopted their politics. As for the mods poor quality, it is like my boyfriend said:
"Because the geck is accessible to anyone and that means a poor quality of mods."
 

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