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It's not all bad. It's an excuse to try out Grounded Commonwealth and America Rising 2. And play all sarcastic like.
The quality and scope of AR2 was very impressive. I slaughtered the railroad, bombed the BOS, nuked the Institute ( including fake-son), and gassed the muties. Based. Not typical trash tier mod fodder at all.
More, if not most of the Commonwealth should be post-Megaton razed after taking out the Institute, underground or not. FFS, Diamond City is *right there*.
 

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The fact that Synths never age and no one ever noticed that in the 10+ years that Danse was in the Brotherhood, no one noticed he didn't age still makes me want to kick everyone at Bethesda in the nuts. Or the fact he didn't need to eat or sleep and so on. So. Damned. Retarded.
 

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The fact that Synths never age and no one ever noticed that in the 10+ years that Danse was in the Brotherhood, no one noticed he didn't age still makes me want to kick everyone at Bethesda in the nuts. Or the fact he didn't need to eat or sleep and so on. So. Damned. Retarded.
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The fact that Synths never age and no one ever noticed that in the 10+ years that Danse was in the Brotherhood, no one noticed he didn't age still makes me want to kick everyone at Bethesda in the nuts. Or the fact he didn't need to eat or sleep and so on. So. Damned. Retarded.
IIRC, there is a terminal in the Institute that mentions the Diamond City Mayor is a synth, and has aged and gained weight, and is a liability that has outlived its usefulness and to be terminated.
 

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IIRC, there is a terminal in the Institute that mentions the Diamond City Mayor is a synth, and has aged and gained weight, and is a liability that has outlived its usefulness and to be terminated.
Nope, it says that the body is based on the real McDonough, so it's fat and useless for anything other than what it's doing. Also, it acts old because of the programming and a memory wipe would fix that, but there's nothing you can do about the body.

Which is also retarded on so many levels, particularly when they also say in the game that there's no way of telling a Synth from a real human.
 

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Award-winning AAA videogame developer.
Bitching about Bethesda breaking their Super Duper Update, brought to you by the guy that also brought you:



Enjoy the broken trash, JuiceHead. You earned it. Shill a little more and maybe they'll stop releasing patches after a modder fixes this issue.

I mean he's right, the TV show didn't ruin Fallout lore.

Fallout 3 did that already. Not much left to ruin.
 

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I mean he's right, the TV show didn't ruin Fallout lore.

Fallout 3 did that already. Not much left to ruin.
However, New Vegas set the precedent that it wasn't too late for Fallout.

But those talentless cunts at Bethesda had other plans for what they wanted to do with it. And it had nothing to do with following the example Obsidian made of them.

Now look what they've done to it. Barely recognizable anymore. Fallout now has more in common with a Mcdonalds Happy Meal than with anything that was once good about the lore.
 

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We're not even talking realism here. We're talking about being consistent within your own story and NOT being retarded about things. If you want to tell me that it's impossible to tell Synths from humans, then you can't also tell me that they don't age, they don't need to eat, they don't need to drink, they can't exercise and get in shape, and they don't need to sleep because every single one of those things makes it pretty damned easy to be able to tell a Synth from an actual human.

It's not shocking that they cited Battlestar Galactica as the inspiration for the Synths, because that show has the same exact problem. The first scene, you see some Cylon chick fucking that corrupt scientist dude and her spine is glowing. Well, humans don't have anything in their spine that can ever emit light, so start with that. And given how often people in the show were banging Cylons, you'd think at least one time, one of those couples would have done it with the lights out.

If you want to tell me you can't tell them from actual people, then don't show or tell me how they're different from people. It's pretty simple.
 

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However, New Vegas set the precedent that it wasn't too late for Fallout.
Anyone who expected Bethesda to learn anything from New Vegas is overly optimistic.

Bethesda completely murdered their own setting, The Elder Scrolls, with Oblivion. It's the worst downgrade in gaming history.
If you think they'd respect Fallout when they have such disregard for their own creation, you're dead wrong. There was never even the slightest chance that Bethesda would let New Vegas inspire them to change their approach to game and world design, when everything they made after Morrowind was pure decline in every single aspect.
 

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However, New Vegas set the precedent that it wasn't too late for Fallout.
Anyone who expected Bethesda to learn anything from New Vegas is overly optimistic.

Bethesda completely murdered their own setting, The Elder Scrolls, with Oblivion. It's the worst downgrade in gaming history.
If you think they'd respect Fallout when they have such disregard for their own creation, you're dead wrong. There was never even the slightest chance that Bethesda would let New Vegas inspire them to change their approach to game and world design, when everything they made after Morrowind was pure decline in every single aspect.
I wasn't really expecting anything great I was just hoping for the best. Yes, I was naive.

It was sometime around 2014, I think. It was the time in-between New Vegas and Fallout 4 where there was this uncertain anticipation that people in my circle had for what was next for Fallout in light of what we had in New Vegas. But Bethesda have shown their full hand now, especially with Fallout 76. I've seen the promo's for their updates. It's so bad I couldn't do a worse job with Fallout if I tried.

Bethesda are irredeemable and inexplicably shit. No question about it. And Todd Howard is a complete fraud and a hack. I'll never buy anything he puts his name on again, including that new Indiana Jones game he's credited as executive producer on. BOYCOTTED for life.

Whenever anyone asks me why I hate everything to do with Todd & Bethesda I tell them why. Because no matter how much Bethesda makes from milking their shit products, they do not deserve an ounce of goodwill from anybody. They should be looked at with scorn the same way EA and Blizzard are. Let them have their cake but don't allow them to eat it too.
 
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Anyone who expected Bethesda to learn anything from New Vegas is overly optimistic.
I'm pretty sure they intentionally went in the opposite direction because they were butthurt over the fact that New Vegas completely overshadowed Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76. When Fallout 76 was met with all the backlash, things like "at least we still have New Vegas" popped up a lot until The Outer Worlds was announced. Even then, The Outer World had "From the studio that brought you New Vegas" in nearly every piece of media. I have a feeling things like that prompted them to get involved with that TV series which absolutely wrecks that area.
 

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Anyone who expected Bethesda to learn anything from New Vegas is overly optimistic.
I'm pretty sure they intentionally went in the opposite direction because they were butthurt over the fact that New Vegas completely overshadowed Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76. When Fallout 76 was met with all the backlash, things like "at least we still have New Vegas" popped up a lot until The Outer Worlds was announced. Even then, The Outer World had "From the studio that brought you New Vegas" in nearly every piece of media. I have a feeling things like that prompted them to get involved with that TV series which absolutely wrecks that area.
It's very likely they intentionally fucked up New Vegas lore, just like how they intentionally destroyed Morrowind in the new Elder Scrolls lore because they hate how the old fanbase still clings to that game and region. So they had the entire continent destroyed in the current lore.

Bethesda are extremely spiteful against fans who prefer older titles to the slop they put out nowadays.
 

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I'd love to see the original tweet which Pete is making a reply. I'd be willing to bet, like I said, that is has nothing to do with realism and everything to do with how they can't maintain a consistent setting.
It was something to do with the origins of Super Mutants on the east coast. That's all I can remember about it. Don't quote me on it.

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Or maybe it was something to do with the fridge quest. Shit
 

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I'd love to see the original tweet which Pete is making a reply. I'd be willing to bet, like I said, that is has nothing to do with realism and everything to do with how they can't maintain a consistent setting.
It was something to do with the origins of Super Mutants on the east coast. That's all I can remember about it. Don't quote me on it.

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Or maybe it was something to do with the fridge quest. Shit
Pretty sure it was Kid in a Fridge.
 

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Pretty sure it was Kid in a Fridge.
The kid in the fridge wasn't even as bad as people made it out to be. I always just saw it as a stupid easter egg akin to some of the easter eggs in Fallout 1, as opposed to something to rag on about being inconsistent with Ghoul biology or realism or whatever. I can easily think of 10 things from the top of my head that do a worse disservice to Fallout.

But then again it's Bethesda we're talking about here. And judging by Hines comment; the kid in the fridge was probably intended to be canon. He could have easily brushed it off by saying it was just a silly easter egg not to be taken seriously. But he didn't. Instead he defended it at the expense of the rest of the Fallout setting.
 

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The kid in the fridge wasn't even as bad as people made it out to be. I always just saw it as a stupid easter egg akin to some of the easter eggs in Fallout 1, as opposed to something to rag on about being inconsistent with Ghoul biology or realism or whatever. I can easily think of 10 things from the top of my head that do a worse disservice to Fallout.
The problem with the "Easter Egg" theory is that there's a quest associated with it.

But I was right. That has nothing to do with realism and is 100% about consistency within the setting. What happens to Bakersfield in Fallout if you take Set's waterchip and don't fix the water pump? All the ghouls there die of thirst. Furthermore, the Ghost Farm in Fallout 2 is all about ghouls that live underground because they can't stand the sunlight trying to keep people away from their farm during the day. They need that farm to feed themselves.
 

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Don't check on Fallout 4 thread for a time. Starting up another playthrough. Decide to visit the thread. What do I find? A bunch of people covered in cum from all the mutual jerking off they are doing. Go play BG3 you bunch of bear fucking, negro loving sadists.

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The kid in the fridge wasn't even as bad as people made it out to be. I always just saw it as a stupid easter egg akin to some of the easter eggs in Fallout 1, as opposed to something to rag on about being inconsistent with Ghoul biology or realism or whatever. I can easily think of 10 things from the top of my head that do a worse disservice to Fallout.
The problem with the "Easter Egg" theory is that there's a quest associated with it.

But I was right. That has nothing to do with realism and is 100% about consistency within the setting. What happens to Bakersfield in Fallout if you take Set's waterchip and don't fix the water pump? All the ghouls there die of thirst. Furthermore, the Ghost Farm in Fallout 2 is all about ghouls that live underground because they can't stand the sunlight trying to keep people away from their farm during the day. They need that farm to feed themselves.
Pretty sure that people at Ghost Farm werent ghouls.
 

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Pretty sure that people at Ghost Farm werent ghouls.
They were called Slags, but they were sealed off underground and slowly mutated from radiation over time because the seal wasn't very good. Kind of like how the vault door in Bakersfield didn't seal well. Are they typical ghouls? Maybe? Are they a stage somewhere between human and ghoul? This could be as well.
 

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Pretty sure that people at Ghost Farm werent ghouls.
They were called Slags, but they were sealed off underground and slowly mutated from radiation over time because the seal wasn't very good. Kind of like how the vault door in Bakersfield didn't seal well. Are they typical ghouls? Maybe? Are they a stage somewhere between human and ghoul? This could be as well.
And maybe they are just humans that are sensitive to sunlight, not half ghouls.
 

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