Incline Elminage Gothic (former Japan only dungeon crawler)

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Dorarnae
Courtier

some in-game screenshots of me changing the Gargoyle enemy's Armor Class by 1 point.

- pictured ABOVE is a screen-cap of the Gargoyle's bestiary entry in an unmodified game. he has -1 ac.

- obviously, as you can see, now he has -2 ac. Weeeee!

absolutely everything, every value in that photo, can be changed. they're just numbers!

Obviously this is just to prove it can be tweaked and that the game will launch without problems.... i'm not saying my goal is to make all enemies unbeatable hah.

EDIT: oh, obviously i also fooled around with the EP and the STR attribute values to make sure shit changed in-game.

 

[Courtier]

Remember you can change the ''it's your character's turn'' sound to anything or make it silent if you set it to 0 (also can change enemy sound seperately) so you don't have to hear the constant pinging in combat

You could fix that -92 AC Belial, those guys are worse than the final tower boss. Actually if you have the Jap wiki bookmarked just pull up the 3ds monster/item/etc sections and compare for changes

Reading about your exploits is such a treat dude. I told you before, I think there is no English speaking forum with people that love these games as much as this place. Elminage is my waifu

 

[Dorarnae]

Remember you can change the ''it's your character's turn'' sound to anything or make it silent if you set it to 0 (also can change enemy sound seperately) so you don't have to hear the constant pinging in combat

You could fix that -92 AC Belial, those guys are worse than the final tower boss. Actually if you have the Jap wiki bookmarked just pull up the 3ds monster/item/etc sections and compare for changes

Reading about your exploits is such a treat dude. I told you before, I think there is no English speaking forum with people that love these games as much as this place. Elminage is my waifu

lol yeah the first time I saw them I was wtf, same with the star gazer group.
have you seen them aweigh ?

 

[aweigh]

Yep, I've seen them. Changing their AC is absolutely doable. What I want to do is change enemy stats to the 3DS remake ones but am having trouble finding the specific numbers/changes.

the japanese wiki for Gothic has a dedicated listing of the changes for the 3DS remake but it does not go into actual specific information such as enemy stats.

Basically I need to know what the stats are going to be changed to before I go and change them. The japanese Wiki doesn't have a page with enemy stats (that I know of).

Btw, last night for laughs I changed every game enemy's AC to double their value (or rather, half, since it's a negative value) and boy oh boy did that make a difference. SWEET FUCK. Had to remove the modified file after trying it out as every random encounter was an exercise in frustration. Shit was fucking ridiculous.

 

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Dorarnae
Siveon
Dorateen
Celerity
GhopTheConqueror
Shackleton
Courtier
Crooked Bee
Viata
Zetor
Deuce Traveler
Mustawd
Jaesun
BlackGoat
agris
Infinitron

A FEW QUESTIONS REGARDING THE GAME'S EX-SKILLS:

what's the point of abilities like Absolute Barrier which shut down an entire turn? Your spells/SP do not get spent during that turn so I don't see how it benefits the enemy.

the only thing that comes to mind is that the enemy (or player, as Lords can pick a class-specific Ex-Skill that does the exact same thing) still gets to receive HP turn recovery if they have it with the assurance of not receiving damage.

still, it's not really a big deal. if you could reach really high HP recovery with party members via crafting then yeah, i can see a Lord's Barrier ex-Skill coming in real handy but once your chars pass 500 hp there is literally no Ore you will find, realistically speaking, which will let you craft enough HP recovery to make that tactic viable/worthwhile.

thoughts people?

A RESPONSE I RECEIVED FROM COUTIER WHO POINTED SOMETHING OUT TO ME REGARDING A THIEF'S FAST LEVEL PROGRESSION THAT I HAD NEVER BEFORE CONSIDERED:

Absolute barrier would be useful if certain skills had X turn-limits, otherwise I don't see a use for it either except for poison/regen

Good party, what I did was throw my level 150something Alchemist on the bench to still be able to forge with a good boost and replaced him with a Summoner that cycled through all schools

Righto about thief levels & disarm, though empty enemy inventory still jacks up half the point of having one and they'll always be weaker than a Ninja. Big pro though is that because of high level your thief will have good hide rolls and be able to surprise attack many times in a row

Classes
-Brawler in Original is simply OP, here they are still very good and one (that monster adventurer chick) was a linchpin of my party with low AC to tank and crazy disabling combos (innate stat affliction helped a lot). You can catch monsters for the Summoner with a low level brawler, just disable it with petrify or something you don't want to do a lot of damage anyway. All you need is one 4-hit combo+successful roll
-My original party had a Servant/Herbalist, they are the best healers and if you cycle one through all spellschools a perfect utility character, only problem is there are so many other must-have classes I can't really justify keeping one other than for switching out if you are having a really tough time
-Shaman is good, I had one in Original and the wall+hunter tier bow combo works pretty well, too bad there is only like one good seal though. They're like an antimagic Bard

Skills
Avenge - sounds useless, usually if somebody dies chances are they're not the only one and I'll reload anyway
Songs - I dunno Protection might be useful if it provides a flat damage reduction? Song of Hope to replace a Herbalist?
Imitate - Never used it, you'll need to use your hax to level a character and test it out on tower enemies
High Magic Source - Never had a problem with barriers, usually enemies that use them die quickly and are easy to identify (shadow with a mirror behind it alright let's just orath or smth)
Chi Wave - Dunno, prob uses SP so gone p quickly, would rather have bracing

MY REPLY:

I should test out Imitate, it might turn out to be very useful just like taking a chance on War Ritual turned out for me. I don't have any hard facts or screenshots or the like to back up the following claim but I am almost certain that War Ritual, aside from boosting melee atk damage % and aside from boosting spell direct-damage %, it also boosts spell penetration versus enemy resistances.

(Imagine "imitating" enemy breath attacks or a post-game enemy's "Group Attack" with your damage-dealing character. Remember: vast majority of post-game enemies have the brawler's Group Attack.)

(Also, imagine imitating a non-Group Attack enemy's multi-attack. Testing is needed, indeed, because if those things are possible then wow. But to be honest I sincerely doubt that those things will be possible as Starfish really, really fucked up in how they translated the information meant to convey how the majority of the Ex-Skills actually work in-game.)

but I fully admit this very well be a panacea effect due to having a string of good dice rolls when casting the spells and I could simply be imagining it.

Now I wonder if War Ritual also raises the % probability for a Brawler's Group Attack to reach the 4th blow, i.e. "Clean Hit". If it does that would be awesome.

BTW, what did you mean by the barrier+hunter tier thing? Don't know what you're getting at there. I can guess, but why guess when I can ask.

also, your point about deaths occurring in groupings is 100% valid. however, if it does trigger an auto-attack from the char with "Avenge", then don't you think my "Avenge-Hunter" scenario would be hella-awesome?

(Having the Avenge-Hunter's auto-attack after a companion death inflict the enemy w/ an Ailment and then immediately afterwards hit the enemy again with their Pursuit. That would mean that the Avenge-Hunter attacked three times in one turn. However, as with "Imitate", my hopes of this skill working as it says on the tin are not very high...)

EDIT: btw, hope you don't mind but i'm going to copy/paste some of this stuff and post it on the E: Gothic thread in the hopes of stimulating conversation and steering things away from creating the illusion that the game requires meta-knowledge to play through.

i now want to stress and convey that experimentation is the key to the depth of this game.

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THAT'S RIGHT FOLKS, 2.5 PLAYTHROUGHS OF ELMINAGE: GOTHIC AND APPROXIMATELY 300 HOURS PLAYING THE GAME AND THE GAME IS SO DEEP, SO COMPLEX AND SO ENGAGING AND FUN TO PLAY THAT THERE IS STILL A TON OF STUFF TO DISCOVER AND ENJOY AND ALL-NEW, ALL-DIFFERENT WAYS TO BUILD A PARTY.

 

[Courtier]

It's a good example, I mean we've had many conversations like this and you can just keep talking about this shit because the mechanical depth of this game is astounding. How many games have combat systems, classes and ability interaction etc. that are so good they can pretty much carry the game by themselves? It's Wiz 1-5, but refined to a ridiculous degree. Obviously not many people play this but it has informational value for anyone interested in RPGs, if the current industry ''celebrity rpg devs'' made systems with half as much integrity as this, even their shitty kickstarter games (where evil won!) would bring massive incline

 

[aweigh]

dude, well i just took the plunge (in my 2nd playthrough party, i.e. the super power-gamed one which i started w/ 3xCleric/3xAlchemists) and just now turned my level 83 100% pure Thief into a level 83 100% pure HUNTAWH BABEH.

the "Avenge" ex-skill, btw, turned out to be a bust. From my testing it seems that it only triggers if the companion was killed by an enemy melee attack and does not trigger if the companion was killed by an enemy spell/ability (which if often).

verdict: useless. perhaps not 100% useless, but there are *tons* better Ex-Skills to choose from.

 

[Dorarnae]

the absolute barrier for monster I guess is for them to regen hp every turn...in elminage 3 you could use that skill to prevent monster from acting and have one of your character do shit because of the god items that made you go first...

 

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btw, since Courtier still hasn't answered my question, Dorarnae , the one about what he meant with his comment about his E: Original combo of a shaman+hunter tier...

I'm making an assumption in my head that i guess he meant that in E: Original a Hunter's Pursuit attack on an enemy triggers regardless whether or not there are any Barriers being used, be it by the enemy or by the party?

if that is so... then that is GODLIKE. having absolute barrier ex-skill on your party Lord and inflicting an ailment on the enemy and then walling up and having your Hunter mete out justice sounds awesome.

 

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Dorarnae
Courtier

below is a picture i took from the jp wiki which has a complete list of all of stats changed for the game's weapons/gear/etc:

so i'm currently going over every item that was changed and setting its stats to the new ones found in the 3ds remix version of the game. eventually, after i finish the items, i wish to do the same with the game's enemies but this will be more difficult than the items because the jp wiki does not have a page with all of the monsters and their stats, let alone a page detailing the enemy stats changed in the 3ds version.

 

[aweigh]

Courtier

after more than 300 hours of total playtime i just now found out that an enemy can Behead you AND ALSO LEVEL DRAIN YOU AS WELL ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

: O

lolol not only is the char dead but he lost a lvl to boot that's fucking insane

 

[Courtier]

BTW, what did you mean by the barrier+hunter tier thing? Don't know what you're getting at there. I can guess, but why guess when I can ask.

also, your point about deaths occurring in groupings is 100% valid. however, if it does trigger an auto-attack from the char with "Avenge", then don't you think my "Avenge-Hunter" scenario would be hella-awesome?

I meant Shaman can use some bows so has decent damage almost like a hunter, can use instruments like a bard, can hit ghosts innately and can also use barriers. The seals make them ailment machines

About Avenge well you tested it out and it doesn't trigger after spell deaths, not sure if it even triggers after a beheading, you might as well get Cruelty or something unless you expect the frontline to constantly get killed by melee

 

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Ｃｏｎｃｌｕｓｉｏｎｓ　ｓｏ　ｆａｒ　ｏｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｘ－ｓｋｉｌｌｓ：

－　ｔｈｅ　ｏｎｌｙ　ｇｏｏｄ　ｏｎｅｓ　ａｒｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｓａｍｅ　ｏｎｅｓ　ｗｅ　ａｌｒｅａｄｙ　ｋｎｅｗ　ａｂｏｕｔ：　Ｂｒａｃｅ　（ｂｅｓｔ　ｏｎｅ），　Ｔａｃｋｌｅ　（２ｎｄ　ｐｌａｃｅ），　Ｍａｇｉｃ　Ｅｓｓｅｎｃｅ　（ｂｙｐａｓｓｉｎｇ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｍａｇｉｃ　ｒｅｓｉｓｔａｎｃｅｓ　ｉｓ　godlike），　Ｗａｒ　Ｒｉｔａｕｌ　（ｇｒｅａｔ　ｂｏｏｓｔ　ｔｈａｔ　ｃａｎ　ｔｕｒｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｔｉｄｅ　ｏｆ　ａｎ　ｅｎｃｏｕｎｔｅｒ　ａｎｄ　ｉｔ’ｓ　ｆａｓｔ－ａｃｔｉｖａｔｉｎｇ），　ａｎｄ　ｏｎｅ　ｏｆ　ｍｙ　ｐｅｒｓｏｎａｌ　ｆａｖｅｓ　Ｍａｒｋ　ｏｆ　Ｃｒｕｅｌｔｙ　（ｉｎｆｌｉｃｔｓ　５－１５　ｄｍｇ　ａｆｔｅｒ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｈａｒ’ｓ　ｔｕｒｎ　ｅｎｄｓ，　ｂｕｔ　ｉｎ　ｒｅｔｕｒｎ　ｔｈａｔ　ｃｈａｒ　ｄｅａｌｓ　＋２５％　ｄｍｇ　ｗｈｅｎ　ａｔｔａｃｋｉｎｇ，　ａｎｄ　ｙｅｓ　ｔｈｅ　２５％　ｃｏｍｅｓ　ｓｔｒａｉｇｈｔ　ｆｒｏｍ　ｔｈｅ　ｊｐ　ｗｉｋｉ）．

ｃｌａｓｓ－ｓｐｅｃｉｆｉｃ　ｓｋｉｌｌｓ　ａｒｅ　ａｌｌ　ａｌｍｏｓｔ　ｅｎｔｉｒｅｌｙ　ｕｓｅｌｅｓｓ　ｗｉｔｈ　１　ｅｘｃｅｐｔｉｏｎ：　ｔｈｅ　ｕｓｅｌｅｓｓ　ｏｎｅｓ　ａｒｅ　ｆｏｒ　ｅｘａｍｐｌｅ　ｔｈｅ　Ｓｈａｍａｎ’ｓ　ｓｋｉｌｌ　ｔｈａｔ　ｉｎｖｅｒｔｓ　ｇｐ／ｅｐ　ａｗａｒｄｅｄ　（ｌｅｗｌ），　ｔｈｅ　ｌｏｒｄ’ｓ　ａｂｓｏｌｕｔｅ　ｂａｒｒｉｅｒ　（．．．ｉ　ｓｉｍｐｌｙ　ｃａｎ’ｔ　ｂｅｌｉｅｖｅ　Ｓｔａｒｆｉｓｈ　ｋｎｏｗｉｎｇｌｙ　ｐｕｔ　ｉｎ　ｓｏｍｅｔｈｉｎｇ　ｓｏ　ｕｓｅｌｅｓｓ），　ｂｕｔ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ａｒｅ　ｔｗｏ　ｅｓｓｅｎｔｉａｌ　ｏｎｅｓ　ｆｏｒ　ｔｈｅｉｒ　ｃｌａｓｓｅｓ：

－　ｎｉｎｊａ’ｓ　Ｒｅｐｌｉｃａｔｅ　ｃｌａｓｓ－ｓｐｅｃｉｆｉｃ　ｅｘ－ｓｋｉｌｌ．　ｉｔ’ｓ　ｉｎｓａｎｅｌｙ　ｇｏｏｄ　ａｎｄ　ｉｓ　ｂａｓｉｃａｌｌｙ　ａ　ｔｏｐ－ｔｉｅｒ　ｓｕｍｍｏｎ　ｃｈａｒａｃｔｅｒ　ａｔ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｄｉｓｐｏｓａｌ．　Ｗｅｌｌ，　ａ　ｔｏｐ－ｔｉｅｒ　ｎｉｎｊａ　ｓｕｍｍｏｎ，　ａｎｄ　ｈｅ／ｓｈｅ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｏｎｌｙ　ｂｅ　ａｓ　ｇｏｏｄ　ａｓ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｒｅａｌ　ｎｉｎｊａ　ｉｓ，　ａｆｔｅｒ　ａｌｌ．　Ｃｏｍｐｌｅｔｅｌｙ　ｅｌｉｍｉｎａｔｅｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｎｅｅｄ　ｔｏ　ｕｓｅ　ａ　Ｓｕｍｍｏｎｅｒ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｄｏｎ’ｔ　ｗａｎｔ　ｔｏ　ｕｓｅ　ｏｎｅ．
－　ｓｕｍｍｏｎｅｒ’ｓ　ｃｌａｓｓ－ｓｐｅｃｉｆｉｃ　ｅｘ－ｓｋｉｌｌ　ｔｈａｔ　ｌｅｔｓ　ｈｉｍ／ｈｅｒ　ｐｅｒｆｏｒｍ　ｔｒａｎｓ　ｓｕｒｇｅｒｙ　ｏｎ　ｓｕｍｍｏｎｓ　ａｎｄ　ｔｕｒｎ　ｔｈｅｍ　ｉｎｔｏ　ｎｏｒｍａｌ　ｐａｒｔｙ　ｍｅｍｂｅｒ　ｃｈａｒｓ．　Ｄｏｎ’ｔ　ｋｎｏｗ　ｍｕｃｈ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ　ｉ’ｖｅ　ｎｅｖｅｒ　ｕｓｅｄ　ａ　Ｓｕｍｍｏｎｅｒ　ｉｎ　Ｅｌｍｉｎａｇｅ　ｂｅｆｏｒｅ；　ｉ　ｆｉｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｒｏｃｅｓｓ　ｏｆ　ｃａｔｃｈｉｎｇ　ｓｕｍｍｏｎｓ　ｗａｙ　ｔｏｏ　ｔｅｄｉｏｕｓ．

ｗａｓ　ｍｕｃｈ，　ｍｕｃｈ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｅｎｊｏｙａｂｌｅ　ｉｎ　ｗｉｚａｒｄｒｙ　ｅｍｐｉｒｅ　ｈｏｗ　ｔｈｅｙ　ｄｉｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｕｍｍｏｎｓ．

ｕｎｒｅｌａｔｅｄ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｋｉｌｌ　ｔａｌｋ，　ａｌｓｏ　Ｊｕｓｔ　ｒｅｃｅｎｔｌｙ　ｆｅｌｌ　ｉｎ　ｌｏｖｅ　ｗ／　Ｂａｒｄ　ａｇａｉｎ．　Ｔａｒｏｔ　ｃａｒｄｓ　ａｒｅ　ＩＮＳＡＮＥＬＹ　ＢＲＯＫＥＮ．　Ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｕｓｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｒｉｇｈｔ　ｃａｒｄ　ｖｅｒｓｕｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｒｉｇｈｔ　ｓｅｔ　ｏｆ　ｅｎｅｍｉｅｓ　ｓｈｉｔ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｂｅ　ａ　ｐｉｅｃｅ　ｏｆ　ｃａｋｅ．　Ｆｏｒ　ｅｘａｍｐｌｅ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ｉｓ　１　ｃａｒｄ　ｔｈａｔ　ｍａｋｅｓ　ｅｖｅｒｙｏｎｅ　ｕｎａｂｌｅ　ｔｏ　ｕｔｉｌｉｚｅ　ｎｏｒｍａｌ　ｍｅｌｅｅ　ａｔｋｓ，　ｂｏｔｈ　ｙｏｕ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｎｅｍｙ．　Ｔｈｉｓ　ｍｅａｎｓ　ｔｈａｔ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｕｓｅ　ｉｔ　ｏｎ　ｎｏｎ－ｍａｇｉｃ　ｕｓｉｎｇ　ｅｎｅｍｉｅｓ　ｔｈｅｎ　ｎｅｘｔ　ｒｏｕｎｄ　ｔｈｅｙ’ｒｅ　ｄｅａｄ　ｔｏ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｍａｇｉｃ／ｂｒｅａｔｈ／ｐｏｍａｄｏｏｎ．　Ａｌｔｅｒｎａｔｉｖｅｌｙ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ｉｓ　ａｎｏｔｈｅｒ　Ｔａｒｏｔ　ｃａｒｄ　ｔｈａｔ　ｓｐｅｃｉｆｉｃａｌｌｙ　ｄｉｓａｌｌｏｗｓ　ａｎｙ　ｕｓｅ　ｏｆ　ｓｋｉｌｌｓ／ａｂｉｌｉｔｉｅｓ／ｓｐｅｌｌｓ　ｆｒｏｍ　ｅｖｅｒｙｏｎｅ，　ｙｏｕ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｂｏｔｈ．　ｕｓｅ　ｉｔ　ｏｎ　ｍｅｌｅｅ－ｗｅａｋ　ｅｎｅｍｉｅｓ　ａｎｄ　ｂｏｏｍ，　ｓｔｅａｍｒｏｌｌ　ｔｈｅｍ　ｗｉｔｈ　ａｕｔｏ－ａｔｋ．

ｃｈｅｃｋ　ｏｕｔ　ｔｈｅ　ｌｉｓｔ：

• Draw Empress to disable hard-hitting melee groups

• Draw The Sun at the beginning of a fight, or when there's one enemy left. A failed draw will have little risk.

• Judgment reduces everyone's HP to 1, but it could be an easy way to wipe enemy parties if you have a way to protect yourself.

Tarot Card Duration Success Failure
Tarot

One-time, or continuous. The effect lasts the whole battle, or in effect once. The card drawn is reversed, some effects being negative, while others have no effect whatsoever.
00: Fool

One-time Opponents are put to sleep. Allies are put to sleep.
01: Magician

Continuous Allies' magic damage is doubled. Opponent magic damage is doubled.
02: Priestess

One-time Opponents are poisoned. Allies are poisoned.
03: Empress

Continuous Physical attacks are forbidden for all. No effect.
04: Emperor

One-time Opponents are silenced. Allies are silenced.
05: Hierophant

Continuous Game: Skill moves are forbidden for all.

Manual: Non-physical and non-magical attacks cannot be used.

No effect.
06: Lovers

One-time Opponents are charmed. Allies are charmed.
07: Chariot

Continuous Allies' defense power is raised.
Allies' AC is set to -10.

Opponents' AC is set to -10 (could potentially make enemies easier to hit).
08: Justice

Continuous Good aligned damage is doubled. No effect.
09: Hermit

Continuous Game: Opponents are restricted to passive combat.
Manual: Anyone who takes no damage from an enemy receives damage equivalent to half their current HP at the end of the turn.

Any ally or foe that doesn't deal damage receives damage as punishment. Does not affect ineffective physical attacks against ghosts.

No effect.
10: Fortune

Continuous Movement order is randomized. No effect.
11: Strength

Continuous Allies' physical attack damage is doubled. Opponents' physical attack damage is doubled.
12: Hanged Man

Continuous Opponents' evasive actions fail.
Enemies cannot evade negative status effects (ignores resistances).

No effect.
13: Death

One-time One opponent is instantly killed. One ally is instantly killed.
14: Temperance

Continuous Neutral aligned damage is doubled. No effect.
15: The Devil

Continuous Evil aligned damage is doubled. No effect.
16: The Tower

One-time Opponents are confused. Allies are confused.
17: The Star

Continuous All allies' attacks hit. All opponents' attacks hit.
18: The Moon

One-time Game: Opponents flee.
Manual: Targeted party has a 50% chance of fleeing.

Allies flee have a 50% chance of fleeing.
19: The Sun

One-time Allies' strength is completely recovered. Enemies completely recover. (May be useful for Summoner contract attempts.)
20: Judgment

One-time Game: Everyones HP becomes 1 at end of turn.
Manual: Low level characters have their HP reduced to 1 and the turn forcibly ends.

All allies' and foes' HP is reduced to 1, and the turn ends immediately.

No effect.
21: The World

Continuous Game: Everyone loses status resistance.
Manual: All weaknesses and resistances are lost.

All allies and foes lose all types of defenses and resistances. Not a 100% success rate.

No effect.

 

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＠Ｃｏｕｒｔｉｅｒ

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ｔｈａｔ’ｓ　ａ　ｍｏｄｉｆｉｅｄ　ｉｔｅｍ　．ｃｓｖ　ｆｉｌｅ　ｗｉｔｈ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ａｄｄｉｔｉｏｎｓ　ｔｏ　ｅｘｉｓｔｉｎｇ　Ｇｏｔｈｉｃ　ｉｔｅｍｓ，　ａｌｍｏｓｔ　ｅｘｃｌｕｓｉｖｅｌｙ　ｃｈａｎｇｅｓ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　Ｂｅｌｔｓ　（Ｏｂｉ）　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　Ｃａｐｅ／Ｃｌｏａｋｓ，　ａｓ　ＡＦＡＩＫ　ｎｏ　Ｗｅａｐｏｎ　Ｓｔａｔｓ　ｗｅｒｅ　ｃｈａｎｇｅｄ．　Ｈｏｗｅｖｅｒ　ｔｈｅ　ａｄｄｉｔｉｏｎｓ　ｔｏ　ｂｅｌｔｓ／ｃｌｏａｋｓ　ａｒｅ　ａｗｅｓｏｍｅ：

－　ａｌｌ　ｂｅｌｔｓ／ｏｂｉ　ｒｅｃｅｉｖｅｄ　＋２　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　”ＴＨＡＣＯ”，　ｏｒ　ｒａｔｈｅｒ，　ｅａｃｈ　ｏｎｅ　ｇｉｖｅｓ　ｆｒｏｍ　＋１　ａｌｌ　ｔｈｅ　ｗａｙ　ｕｐ　ｔｏ　＋３　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｅａｒｅｒ’ｓ　ｍｅｌｅｅ　ａｃｃｕｒａｃｙ．　Ｔｈｅｙ　ｌｅｆｔ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｓｔａｔｓ，　ｓｕｃｈ　ａｓ　ｆｏｒ　ｅｘａｍｐｌｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｂｌｕｅ　ｂｅｌｔ’ｓ　４０％　ｒｅｓｉｓｔａｎｃｅｓ　ｔｏ　ｄｒａｉｎ／ｐｅｔｒｉｆｙ／ｂｅｈｅａｄｉｎｇ　ｅｘａｃｔｌｙ　ｔｈｅ　ｓａｍｅ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｏｓｅ　ｓｔａｔｓ　ｗｅｒｅ　ｎｏｔ　ａｌｔｅｒｅｄ．　ｏｎｌｙ　＋１　－　＋３　ｍｏｄｉｆｅｒｅｓ　ｗｅｒｅ　ａｄｄｅｄ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｂｅｌｔｓ／ｃｌｏａｋｓ　ｆｏｒ　ＴＨＡＣＯ　ｐｕｒｐｏｓｅｓ．

－　Ｉ　ｍａｄｅ　Ｓｔａｆｆ／Ｓｔａｖｅｓ　ａｎｄ　ａｌｓｏ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　Ｂｏｏｋｓ，　ｙｏｕ　ｋｎｏｗ，　ｔｈｅ　Ｂｏｏｋ　Ｗｅａｐｏｎｓ；　ｔｈｅｙ’ｒｅ　Ｍｅｄｉｕｍ－ｒａｎｇｅ　ｎｏｗ．

ｔｈａｔ’ｓ　ｉｔ．　ｔｈｅ　ｖａｓｔ　ｍａｊｏｒｉｔｙ　ｏｆ　ｂｉｇ　ｃｈａｎｇｅｓ　ｗｅｒｅ　ｄｏｎｅ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｓｔａｔｓ，　ａｎｄ　ｉ　ｈａｖｅｎ’ｔ　ｇｏｔｔｅｎ　ｔｏ　ｃｈａｎｇｉｎｇ　ｔｈｏｓｅ　ｙｅｔ．　ｔｈｅ　ｊｐ　ｗｉｋｉ　ｈａｓ　ａ　ｍｏｎｓｔｅｒｓ　ｐａｇｅ ｗｉｔｈ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｏｒｉｇｉｎａｌ　ｓｔａｔｓ　ｆｒｏｍ　ｔｈｅ　ＰＳＰ　ｖｅｒｓｉｏｎ　ｏｆ　Ｅｌｍｉ：Ｇｏｔｈｉｃ，　ｂｕｔ　ｉ　ｈａｖｅｎ’ｔ　ｆｏｕｎｄ　ａ　ｐａｇｅ　ｔｈａｔ　ｔｅｌｌｓ　ｍｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｎｅｗ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｓｔａｔｓ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　３ＤＳ　ｒｅｍｉｘ　ｓｏ　ｉ　ｃａｎ　ｃｈａｎｇｅ　ｔｈｅｍ．

ｏｆ　ｃｏｒｕｓｅ，　ｔｈｅ　ｒｅａｌ　ｄｒｅａｍ－ｇｏａｌ　ｉｓ　ｔｏ　ｆｉｎｄ　ａ　ｗａｙ　ｔｏ　ｅｎａｂｌｅ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｗｅａｐｏｎｓ　ｉｎｓｉｄｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｍｏｎｓｔｅｒ’ｓ　ｉｎｖｅｎｔｏｒｉｅｓ．　Ｉ　ｔｈｉｎｋ　ｉｔ　ｃａｎ　ｂｅ　ｄｏｎｅ　ｖｉａ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｔｈｅ　．ＣＳＶ　ｆｉｌｅｓ　ｆｒｏｍ　ｔｈｅ　ｇａｍｅ，　ｓｔｉｌｌ　ｌｏｏｋｉｎｇ．

ＥＤＩＴ：　ｏｈ　ｙｅａｈ，　ａｌｓｏ　ｔｈｅｙ　ｒａｉｓｅｄ　（ｖｅｒｙ　ｓｌｉｇｈｔｌｙ）　ａ　ｂｕｎｃｈ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｃａｐｅ／ｃｌｏａｋ’ｓ　ｍａｇｉｃ　ａｎｄ　ｍａｇｉｃａｌ　ｅｌｅｍｅｎｔａｌ　ｒｅｓｉｓｔａｎｃｅ　ｐｅｒｃｅｎｔａｇｅｓ．　Ｍｏｓｔ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｉｎｃｒｅａｓｅｓ　ａｒｅ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｍｉｎｏｒ，　ｓｔｕｆｆ　ｌｉｋｅ　ａｎ　ｅｘｔｒａ　＋５％　ｈｅｒｅ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ｔｏ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｃａｐｅｓ／ｃｌｏａｋｓ．

 

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ｉ　ｊｕｓｔ　ｎｏｗ　ｒｅｐｌａｃｅｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｄｒｏｐｂｏｘ　ｆｉｌｅ　ｗｉｔｈ　ａ　ｎｅｗｅｒ　ｏｎｅ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　３ｄｓ　ｒｅｍｉｘ　ｖｅｒｓｉｏｎ　ｃｈａｎｇｅ：

－　ｔｈｅｙ　ｒｅｍｏｖｅｄ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　Ｃｒａｆｔｉｎｇ　ｒｅｓｔｒｉｃｔｉｏｎｓ，　ｉ．ｅ．　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　”ｕｎｉｑｕｅ”　ｗｅａｐｏｎｓ　ｃａｎ　ｎｏｗ　ｂｅ　ｅｎｃｈａｎｔｅｄ．

ａｓ　ｙｏｕ　ｃａｎ　ａｌｌ　ｏｂｖｉｏｕｓｌｙ　ｔｅｌｌ，　ｔｈｅｓｅ　ｃｈａｎｇｅｓ　ｇｉｖｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｌａｙｅｒ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｐｏｗｅｒ．　ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｉｎｔ　ｂｅｉｎｇ　ｉｓ　ｔｈａｔ　ｔｈｅｙ　ａｌｓｏ　ｃｈａｎｇｅｄ　ａｌｌ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅ　ｅｎｅｍｙ　ｓｔａｔｓ　（ｗｅｌｌ，　ｍｏｓｔ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅｍ　ｉ　ｍｅａｎ），　ｓｏ　ｉ’ｍ　ｇｅｔｔｉｎｇ　ａｒｏｕｎｄ　ｔｏ　ｔｈａｔ．

 

[Dorateen]

aweigh regarding the Tarot cards, do you find the diminishing draw success rate for the Bard to be a good enough balance against being over powered? At some point, the percentage for success becomes low enough that you have to give careful consideration or else get hit with a negative backlash. Then a real element of risk versus reward enters the equation. In Ibag Tower, I primarily used the card to make enemies flee on the doppleganger parties. Was the quickest way to resolve those battles. The strength card was helpful as well. But in the final, final floor master battle our Bard failed the draw to make attacks always hit... which was devastating. It was a miracle we were able to win that one, and in fact had to use several to survive.

 

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Ｓｅｒｖａｎｔ’ｓ　Ｍａｇｉｃ　Ｈｅｒｂｓ　ｒｅｐｌｅｎｉｓｈ　ｔｈｅ　Ｂａｒｄ’ｓ　ｓｕｃｃｅｓｓ　ｒａｔｅ　：）

ｐｌｕｓ　ｂａｒｄ’ｓ　ｌｅｖｅｌ　３２　ｃｌａｓｓ　ｍａｓｔｅｒｙ　ｓｋｉｌｌ　ａｌｌｏｗｓ　ｈｉｍ　ｔｏ　ｓｌｏｗｌｙ　ｒｅｐｌｅｎｉｓｈ／ｉｎｃｒｅａｓｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｕｃｃｅｓｓ　ｒａｔｅ　ａｓ　ｈｅ　ｃｏｎｔｉｎｕｅｓ　ｌｅｖｅｌｌｉｎｇ　ｕｐ

 

[Dorarnae]

Courtier

after more than 300 hours of total playtime i just now found out that an enemy can Behead you AND ALSO LEVEL DRAIN YOU AS WELL ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

: O

lolol not only is the char dead but he lost a lvl to boot that's fucking insane

yeah they can inflict multiple shit..., the true final boss in each elminage pretty much have 50% of inflicting every ailment, and I think they even ignore your resistance lol.
(at 2:00)

 

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agris
Shackleton
GhopTheConqueror
Courtier
Siveon
Dorateen
Deuce Traveler
Dorarnae
Celerity

ok, i made a few choice changes to Axes, Staff/Staves, Whips, and all Bludgeons, i.e. Maces/Clubs/Hammers... er, i mean in the context of changing who can equip them is what i mean. I also changed some stuff like ranges (example: all Staff/Staves are M-range, just like in all other Elminage games before Gothic); etc. Continue below...

- Staff/Staves are all M-range.

- Staff/Staves had their to-Hit modifiers increased back to Elminage: Original levels as they are completely useless in Gothic due to over-nerfing. Before I get called names :O all I did was simply increase each one's to-Hit values by +1.

- the Welsh Cane originally has -3 penalty to user's to-Hit, which is fucking ridiculous because first off NO ONE USES STAVES EXCEPT CASTER-CLASSES, AND THAT RENDERS THEM UN-USABLE FOR THOSE CLASSES DUE TO THE MASSIVE to-Hit PENALTY; ahem, anyway now the Welsh Cane has... *drum roll* a whopping -2 penalty! Trust me, 1 point makes a tangible difference! But not enough so that it changes/alters the itemization balance.

- Staff/Staves, to "compensate", now ALL OF THEM (!) carry a +2 - +4 penalty to the user's Armor Class, up from the usual +1.

- Bishop-specific Book Weapons are now all M-range. Cos... why not, amirite? I mean, wtf is the Bishop doing anyway? If he's hitting them with the book then that's just silly, since each one has fanciful and fantastical book titles like "The Black Scriptures", one assumes the Bishop is using these books as weapons by inflicting l33t dmg on enemies by reading to them from the magical pages therein. So... M-range!

- *ALL* Whips are now usable by EVERY SINGLE CLASS. Why? Because in E: Gothic all Whips are massively nerfed compared to previous entries in the series and since they all mostly suck anyway, why the fuck not right? Might as well have them be usable by any class so there is a universal go-to weapon for the back row, albeit one that consists of sucky, sucky Whips.

- All 2-HANDED Axes, i.e. the Dwarven Axe as an example (which, btw, is naturally M-range); right, so ALL 2-handed Axes are now M-range.
- Single-handed Axes, be they Main or Sub, left as is.

- ALL, ALL AND I MEAN AALLL Maces/Clubs/Hammers now have slightly increased to-Hit values. Don't worry, I'm not a dum-dum. I merely increased each one's to-Hit value, which are usually something like -3 all the way to a whopping 0 or even +1, heh; er, i mean what i did is I simply increased each one's to-Hit by +1. That's all.

- Finally, and perhaps most controversial (?): Bishops now use the exact same Weapon Access/Usable Weapons as Clerics do, like motherfucking god intended. Just like in good ole classic Wizardry.

Notes/Thoughts: I considered also giving Alchemists the same Cleric-weapons-list as I did with the Bishop but I thought perhaps not. They now have access to all Whips, and that should be more than enough I think.

Furthermore, what do you guys (and agris specifically!) think about the Bows? Gothic also nerfed massively who can use bows, so how about perhaps making all of the "regular", i.e. non-Unique/non-Awesome ones, usable by most/maybe all classes? They're already quite underpowered, well until the post-game where the top 5 weapons in the game include like 3 bows, heh.

I'm uploading the modified .CSV file to my dropbox and will edit the post w/ the download link, and all that you have to do is simply place the .CSV file in the same Folder that houses the E: Gothic .executable. That's it. Fire up the game and it will look there first and load with the changed values from the .CSV file.

I also have a modified RACE.csv file with the lifespans for Humans, Werebeasts, and Hotlets doubled (i.e. Humans went from dying at 60-something to now dying at 120, which is a 100% real-life age at which real-life humans can die.)

(did i mention real life? right.)

 

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item.csv: http://frd.li/fc8bc850f1e3226f (firedrop link, much better than downloading off my dropbox)

item.csv: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lg0kptidq9yb8xj/-fixed.zip?dl=0

Oh, and of course it goes without saying that this item.csv file also contains the modified Cloaks, Capes, Rings and Belts with the new item Stats that Starfish gave them in the 3DS remix/remake of E: Gothic.

still to do:

- change the enemy stats to the new ones from the 3DS version of the game.

- haven't managed to get working having "Item Identification" to work correctly as a Selectable Ex-Skill. So far I've gotten it in-game and it looks perfect, but the character won't identify anything even if you select it from within the char's status screen's skill menu.

- thinking of doing the following then: modifying the base classes, or specifically the Alchemist, Servant, Shaman, Mage, and Bard classes, to all come with Item Identification just like the Bishop. Can probably do this in 10 mins but you know, lazy.

 

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- showing whips. notice how all classes can use this whip now.

- notice the -2 to-Hit value now on the Welsh Cane. All staff/staves received +1 increase to their to-Hit, but also notice that now they all also penalize +2 to the Armor Class of the user instead of the original +1. Oh, and of course: M-range.

 

[aweigh]

 

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GhopTheConqueror
agris
Courtier
Siveon

my god, so much time playing Elminage game(s) and to this day, and after hundreds of hours, have i finally seen the light! I have finally, FINALLY discovered how incredibly game-changing using your most high-value / highest-points Ores and then using them not to craft extra Armor Class or to craft Double Damage, no... to increase the "Recovery Rate" and push it way, way past 40, 50 and best yet, i got my Hunter sitting pretty with 61% status recovery rate :D

i know all of you probably already realized how essentially fucked your encounter will become once enemies begin using one of their many party-wide abilities that do shit like sleep everyone or charm or confuse, etc. For whatever reason i've just never bothered with that option in the crafting menu because I always previously thought that it wouldn't be worth spending Ores on that because I assumed that the Recovery Rate % worked in-game just like the Special Attack (inflicting ailments on-hit) crafting options do and the Special Attack %'s, even if you raise them to absurd numbers, don't really inflict statuses all that frequently (probably because enemies have equally absurdly high ailment resistance %'s so it sometimes "cancels out".

however there is nothing that challenges your Status Recovery Rate % as it's a passive thing that happens automatically, so even a little bit goes a looong way. I have one dude with 41% recov. rate and he will recover from an ailment about 1 or maybe 2 rounds after the dude with 61% recov. rate. (assuming of course enemies aren't skullraping you with ailments non-stop.)

I've given up a while ago on trying to craft high enough numbers in Special Resistance: Beheading even having 60 percent would still get the char beheaded for days so i stopped bothering wasting precious Ores on that, but this playthrough i actually found a Shield that has built-in something like 80 or 90% resistance to Beheading. I don't remember its name rite now but it's at teh warehouse.

 

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agris
Shackleton
GhopTheConqueror
Courtier
Siveon
Dorateen
Deuce Traveler
Dorarnae
Celerity
Zetor
Viata
Mustawd
fluent

EX-SKILLS THAT ARE NORMALLY SELECTABLE DURING CHAR-GEN AND/OR DURING A CLASS-CHANGE:

first I wish to start with the best discovery of all of my experimentation so as to leave the "duds" for further down below, as I know the majority of people will refuse to read a long post and thus i will simiply confront them with the absolutely, POSITIVELY (!) legitimate new-fangled Elminage: Gothic "battle tactic / party composition" that I managed to stumbled onto; I present to you the ungodly and unabashedly powerful combination of...

- "SHOUT"

(not the skill called "Curse", be very careful about this, this is about the skill "Shout" which does the exact same thing as "Curse", i.e. inflict FRIGHTENED status ailment on enemies, but "Shout" does it to all enemies present)

well folks, this is the shit right here. First off, it seems from my testing that the probability of inflicting the FRIGHT status on enemies is highly dependant on the character's Level in relation to the enemies they are fighting. Not that surprising, i suppose. However even with my level 60-75 (and 80+ Thief, but Thieves level fast) even my guys still in the 60's levels always managed to inflict the FRIGHT ailment on at least one enemy. Remember that "Shout" inflicts the ailment on ALL enemies. (I assume it means it has a lower success rate than the single-target "Curse" ex-skill, but I did not even bother testing "Curse" because when testing "Shout" I absolutely never, not once, failed to inflict FRIGHT ailment on at least one enemy when using the skill.

so what's the big deal? the big deal is that this obviously counts as a trigger for your party's Hunter(s) to let loose w/ Machine Gun Pursuit Sweep and motherfucking skull-fuck every single damn one of those just-FRIGHTENED enemies! Yes, it is exactly as potentially OP as it sounds! 2-4 characters spamming "Shout" and then have 2 Hunters in your party (or more! go for broke!) and laugh out loud as the Hunters lay absolute waste to the entire group of enemies. I really cannot stress enough how unbelievably easy it was to have "Shout" work as intended and I used it versus all of the enemies I could find in all of the floors in Cave of the Ancients and the Ancient Soldier Corpse dungeons, so these were not so low-level enemies to begin with.

hehe, one more:

absolutely fantastic stuff. And yes, it also worked every single time I used the skill versus the Werewolves in Cave of the Ancients, and versus the Cleric-type fuckers (both the one in a dark blue robe and the fruity looking pederast in Pope-clothes) and it also worked consistently and inflicted FRIGHT every time it was used against enemies like the Cave of the Ancients Fighter-types, i.e. the Beast-race Barbarian Axe purple Bull monster and the lady knight dressed in white and also on the male knight dressed in full plate. There wasn't anyone who ain't afraid.

- AVENGE

(From what I gather during my first-hand experiences using it this Ex-Skill is not really useless so much as UNFINISHED in its design/implementation into the game.)

When one of your companions is killed by a an attack, and even after tons of testing I still can't say with 100% certainty if it has to be via an enemy melee attack, or if an enemy ability/spell also counts; then the character who has the Ex-Skill "Avenge" can choose to spend his Turn by using 1 Skill Point (SP) and activating the ability itself which is simply a normal melee attack that automatically targets and hits the offending enemy.

The problems are many, but simply put this is the crux of the bad design: when you use the 1 SP to trigger Avenge during your turn following a companion's death then yes, you do get to launch a standard melee attack versus the enemy in question, and yes, it does feature "Infinite Range" as it will hit the enemy regardless of where he is. I am not sure if it has 100% auto-hit certainty (max accuracy), but during all of my testing it *never*, *ever* missed. So... that's two details in favor of the skill, right?

now the problem is that you just wasted your turn and to top it off you wasted 1 SP as well all just so you can... perform a completely standard and normal melee attack like you always do. Here's a funny picture i took of my ALCHEMIST, Arnold, hitting a Cave of the Ancients Fighter-type enemy all the way from his back-row and just to make sure it at least has the Range thing, I gave him a Dagger weapon. Let's see if you notice the big problem with the end result of Arnold using 1 SP to "Avenge" his comrad lol...

--COMING SOON/TOMORROW: THE EX-SKILLS "SONG OF PROTECTION", THE EX-SKILL "SONG OF DESTRUCTION", THE EX-SKILL "SONG OF HEALING", THE EX-SKILL "CHI WAVE" (SPOILER ALERT: CHI WAVE IS ANOTHER LEGITIMATELY OP SKILL IF USED PROPERLY); THE EX-SKILL "MASTER THERION", THE EX-SKILL "COUNTER-ATTACK" WHICH IS THE ONE THAT INCREASES PARTY ATK POWER WHEN THE PARTY GETS AMBUSHED/SURPRISED BY AN ENCOUNTER...

...THE UNBELIEVABLY SURPRINGLY AWESOME EX-SKILL "LEVEL DRAIN" (NOT AS GOOD AS "SHOUT" SINCE IT DOESN'T TRIGGER PURSUIT SWEEP BUT IT IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST SKILL TO USE TO MAKE ENEMIES SUPER-DUPER EASY TO SUMMON/CONTRACT AND ALSO SUPER-DUPER EASY TO STEAL THEIR SHIT; i.e. THE PRIMARY BENEFIT FROM DRAIN ENEMY LEVELS IS THAT IT MAKES ALL OF THE ENEMY'S RESISTANCES TO everything (!) DRASTICALLY DECREASE); AND MORE, MORE, MORE ELMINAGE. HERE ARE SOME PICS OF WHAT'S WAITING--

note: that is not Bull, my Lord, losing 3 levels, but rather the opposite. Bad game text.

plus cool shit like skills that are not even from previous Elminage games, but seems like they are straight-up Cut Content. I managed to hex edit / stumble my way onto a skill that was originally meant to allow the character to MOTHERFUCKING CRAFT ALCHEMY ORES!

CRAFT! ORES! AS A SKILL! THAT YOU WOULD USE FROM THE CAMP MENU! LOOLOL. It's no surprise it was cut.

 

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Deuce Traveler Shackleton Mustawd Siveon Courtier Dorateen Viata Helly MrRichard999 Zetor Dorarnae Comte GhopTheConqueror BlackGoat Celerity demilich

This is a really cool "easter egg" in the last floor of the penultimate post-game dungeon in Elminage: Gothic, "The Cave of the Ancients". You can find this hooded dude who says, as plainly as humanly possible, that the entire world of Elminage was made as an "offering" to the glory of the previous Wizardry Empire series of games

Lilun's Tavern can be found in Wizardry Empire 1, 2 and 3 and pictures of it are plastered all over any random thread about any of the Wizardry Empire games for whoever's curious. The first time I played through Elminage: Gothic I remember finding this guy but since I had not played any of the Wizardry Empire games before his dialog was meaningless. It's amazing how much it suddenly touched me just now when I stumbled onto him just now while playing Elminage: Gothic.

Truth be told however I have no clue who the "dwarf" character is supposed to be and that's kind of embarassing considering I've translated most of the first Empire title and played through the entirety of the 2nd and the 3rd games... the only guess I can come up with is maybe Gilgamesh? That doesn't fit though. Murphy?

2spooky4reference and it's lost in translation and/or does not mean anything specific?