ELEX ELEX RELEASE THREAD

[Hellraiser]

I finally got around to playing this and my god it literally is Gothic 2 again, but with the worst combat they could think of. How was this not fixed by now?
No wonder nothing in Germany works if people like PB are considered movers and shakers.

You should play Gothic 2 again and compare its combat to ELEX. Compared to Gothic 2 ELEX has AMAZING combat.

 

[Fedora Master]

I finally got around to playing this and my god it literally is Gothic 2 again, but with the worst combat they could think of. How was this not fixed by now?
No wonder nothing in Germany works if people like PB are considered movers and shakers.

You should play Gothic 2 again and compare its combat to ELEX. Compared to Gothic 2 ELEX has AMAZING combat.

Gothic 2 had shit combat but that was during a time when most 3D games had awful shit combat. There is ZERO excuse for the system in Elex to be the way it is other than "so it feels like Gothic lol xD". Mods don't help either.
Also the voice acting is the absolute worst I've ever heard in a German game. I made the mistake of starting with the German VO because I assumed my illiterate countrymen wouldn't be able to come up with a decent English translation anyway but the English VO is actually slightly better because of the degree of separation it offers. Don't even get me started on the female character model they used. The single one.

 

[Darth Roxor]

the English VO is actually slightly better

you are completely delusional and should seek professional help

 

[Fedora Master]

the English VO is actually slightly better

you are completely delusional and should seek professional help

Have you listened to the German VO, as a native speaker? They didn't just create text and dialogue that sounds like it was written in English first and then translated by some middle schooler, they chose the worst possible voices for any given NPC. Any given NPC.

 

[The_Mask]

Gothic 2 had shit combat

No.

Unless you play something like a mage, and so it is supposed to be that way because you excel at other stuff.

Also the voice acting is the absolute worst I've ever heard in a German game.

It has subpar sound design in the sense that a wooden branch sounds like a wooden floorboard, or that some stone-like surfaces (and I use "stone-like" there because it is supposed to be an alien world) sound like wooden floorboards, but the voice acting is anywhere from serviceable to great.

Don't even get me started on the female character model they used. The single one.

There is more than 1 female character model, but I am assuming you mean that there are no healthier or skinnier-looking women?

That's fine.

Fits the profile. In a post-apoc world, only the fit ones survive.
And it also makes sense that most of them look the same in an area since the genetic pool is limited.

 

[Fedora Master]

Gothic 2 had shit combat

No.

Unless you play something like a mage, and so it is supposed to be that way because you excel at other stuff.

Gothic 2 came down to "pull critter, swing right, swing left, swing right and pray". At least you were able to swing forever because THERE WAS NO RETARDED STAMINA BAR.
As far as female models go, I'm specifically referring to the god-awful manjaw face they all have. This is below Nether Realms Studios and their """female""" models.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Have you listened to the German VO

i played through the entire freaking game in nazi

 

[The_Mask]

Gothic 2 came down to "pull critter, swing right, swing left, swing right and pray".

I disagree. And I am also not going to waste time to explain why because I feel that would be stupid.

At least you were able to swing forever because THERE WAS NO RETARDED STAMINA BAR.

Stamina bar works just fine. Just keep pacing and let your companion chip in.

It's supposed to actually make your companion relevant, other than just a talking head.

I'm specifically referring to the god-awful manjaw face they all have.

Creative license. Alien world. Numerous reasons to wave that off.

And as I say: there are more than the Berserker females. The Albs, for example, are totally different.

But if you're adamant about this being a deal breaker, then sure, I'll give you the point: females have a displeasing jaw line.

Is that really ELEX's biggest problem?

 

[Fedora Master]

Have you listened to the German VO

i played through the entire freaking game in nazi

Well then I'm sorry you support the rape of our language.

 

[Quillon]

Have you listened to the German VO

i played through the entire freaking game in nazi

Well then I'm sorry you support the rape of our language.

Your sexist language that even assumes objects' gender deserves to be raped.

Spoiler

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I finally got around to playing this and my god it literally is Gothic 2 again, but with the worst combat they could think of. How was this not fixed by now?
No wonder nothing in Germany works if people like PB are considered movers and shakers.

You should play Gothic 2 again and compare its combat to ELEX. Compared to Gothic 2 ELEX has AMAZING combat.

Gothic 2 had shit combat but that was during a time when most 3D games had awful shit combat. There is ZERO excuse for the system in Elex to be the way it is other than "so it feels like Gothic lol xD". Mods don't help either.
Also the voice acting is the absolute worst I've ever heard in a German game. I made the mistake of starting with the German VO because I assumed my illiterate countrymen wouldn't be able to come up with a decent English translation anyway but the English VO is actually slightly better because of the degree of separation it offers. Don't even get me started on the female character model they used. The single one.

Both Gothic 2 and Elex have shit combat because PB is ran by autistic germans that refuse to actually playtest their own games.

 

[Funposter]

THERE WAS NO RETARDED STAMINA BAR.

lmao he fell for the melee combat meme

 

[Fedora Master]

THERE WAS NO RETARDED STAMINA BAR.

lmao he fell for the melee combat meme

I found a plasma rifle and its not exactly better either.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

"Surely it will be good this time" says the man deciding to play melee in a PB game after slogging through the shit melee combat of every other PB game.

 

[Funposter]

THERE WAS NO RETARDED STAMINA BAR.

lmao he fell for the melee combat meme

I found a plasma rifle and its not exactly better either.

Use the 'Plasma Ball' fire mode which stuns/knockdowns enemies. You can lock down entire mobs. Congrats, you've won the game.

 

[Sinatar]

You can shut the shitty stamina meter off in ELEX now, which helps immensely.

 

[Ismaul]

I'll give you the point: females have a displeasing jaw line.

I wouldn't even grant the point. I like jaws on females.

Both Gothic 2 and Elex have shit combat

I disagree. Collison-based melee combat with combos you have to setup and parrying is at the very least a good design decision. IMO Gothic 1-2 combat is the best I've seen in a non-top-down RPG, especially for the improving animations with weapon training. Compared to say, Elder Scrolls combat, Bloodlines combat, Alpha Protocol combat, Witcher 3 combat, it wins out by a large margin. ELEX doesn't have the improving anims and is worse for it, but it has a jetpack to make it interesting. In any case it still crushes those games I named. And if you're comparing to a pure combat game, well you're not making the right comparison.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

and Elex have shit combat

I used to think this but nowadays i think the combat is just fine. Turning off auto-lock really improved the flow for me.

 

[Lyre Mors]

You have to turn off auto-lock in ELEX. It's a night and day difference. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking by making it default.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Have you listened to the German VO

i played through the entire freaking game in nazi

Well then I'm sorry you support the rape of our language.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

There is more than 1 female character model

No, there isn't. Unless you count slightly changing skin texture and different clothes/hairdos.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

PB is staffed with a bunch of homos.
Also explains why Gothic 3 has like 2 female NPCs in the entire game total.

 

[Murk]

Glimpse into PB's development process:

 

[Fenix]

The major weapon changes are detailed in the manual

Eh? You talk about mod right? Or was there some update for ELEX?

Well then I'm sorry you support the rape of our language.

German language is SO hard, man, I suffered a lot in school with it.

lmao he fell for the melee combat meme

Dude, I ran a character on highest difficulty with a melee. Pull your shit together.

 

[Murk]

Fenix for the mod, yes. they released a .pdf that has the weapons bunched up and lists their pre-reqs, their upgrade paths, and what intended changes they went through.

I'm curious to try the projectile launchers and flame throwers specifically.

So far, only about a few hours in and just running around and doing the usual "early game shit" -- easy xp, teleporters, free armors (gotta get my scrap scavenger getup going on).

Only noticeable difference is that quite a few weapons can be used earlier on since their +0 requirements are lower (for example, warbow or a laser rifle). The other noticeable change is that the _named_ artifact weapons are noticeably much stronger, which is good cuz many were disappointing -- even compared to a generic counterpart.