Drova: Forsaken Kin - 2D action RPG inspired by Gothic series

[AfterVirtue]

You realize the line "take up arms against [this] sea of troubles" means to commit suicide, right?

It all ends in death - Active or passive?

Edit: Let me be more clear:

 

[Marat]

You realize the line "take up arms against [this] sea of troubles" means to commit suicide, right?

No it doesn't. It is debating whether one should endure ("to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune") or resist (perhaps uselessly, as one would against the insurmountable sea). Only then does Hamlet contemplates the peace of death (which he likens to sleep) as yet another possibility.

 

[notpl]

You realize the line "take up arms against [this] sea of troubles" means to commit suicide, right?

No it doesn't. It is debating whether one should endure ("to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune") or resist (perhaps uselessly, as one would against the insurmountable sea). Only then does Hamlet contemplates the peace of death (which he likens to sleep) as yet another possibility.

I don't really know what to say to this except that you're wrong and have somehow misunderstood required high school reading. "And by opposing, end them" is not at all ambiguous, nor does it imply the possibility of "uselessness;" if Hamlet takes up arms - which means committing suicide - then he will end his troubles. Permanently.

This is perhaps the most studied soliloquoy in the entire canon of English literature.

 

[Marat]

"Taking up arms" is the literal opposite of suicide. He's pondering how to live and if he should kill Claudius. He's oscillating between impetuous action, depression and outright suicide.

 

[PlayerEmers]

But, seriously, pity for body types, maybe for the german government

They got funded by the government (324,331 Euros.), but I'm not sure if this had any influence on the devs/game.
After watching some videos/streams and read what some people here said, I guess it's definitely worth a try.

 

[notpl]

"Taking up arms" is the literal opposite of suicide. He's pondering how to live and if he should kill Claudius. He's oscillating between impetuous action, depression and outright suicide.

No, he isn't. The literal first line is "To be, or not to be." The entire soliloquoy is a contemplation of suicide. Claudius is not discussed in any capacity.

"Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them. To die—to sleep,"

I think you're just a bit confused by the poetic license involved in using "arms" here. Is English your first language? In which country did you attend primary school?

 

[Marat]

To die—to sleep

He is very well contemplating death, just not his own, but Claudius'.

I think you're just a bit confused by the poetic license involved in using "arms" here.

Yeah, well, I think you are the one who is confused.
"Or that the Everlasting had not fixed
His canon ’gainst self-slaughter"
Hamlet clearly knows and respects God's rule against suicide.

Is English your first language?

No, it isn't.

 

[notpl]

To die—to sleep

He is very well contemplating death, just not his own, but Claudius'.

I think you're just a bit confused by the poetic license involved in using "arms" here.

Yeah, well, I think you are the one who is confused.
"Or that the Everlasting had not fixed
His canon ’gainst self-slaughter"
Hamlet clearly knows and respects God's rule against suicide.

Is English your first language?

No, it isn't.

Okay. It is neither my job nor the purpose of this thread to teach classic literature to third-worlders. I encourage you to revisit Hamlet with the help of a professional at some point - it is not the easiest read even for people who grew up with it, but well worth the effort.

 

[HoboForEternity]

A bunch of german soycucks with pronouns and pixelart style hmmm
To the trashbin it goes

Found the tourist

 

[HoboForEternity]

Game's just proven there are market for piranha bytes style games if they're well made and polished.

500+ 96% review of a niche genre from noob dev is really rare. If elex 2 wasnt a crappy buggy mess, PB would've stayed open.

 

[Ontopoly]

What does SparkNotes say about Hamlet?

 

[Konjad]

What does SparkNotes say about Hamlet?

If you guys want to shit some topics up please go to Veilguard thread and leave possible incline threads pure.


Anyway according to news price for Poland is incorrectly set too high, they will lower it soon, and more importantly workshop support is coming too.

Nonetheless, I'm glad I'm waiting. Seems like although the game is highly rated it still has plenty of bugs, so I'll wait for a bit until they are fixed

Fixed Deadlocks

• Fixed
  Tiaas meat quest, you can finally give her the meat properly
• Fixed
  Deep Mine bug at Jendra where player can't progress after mining the silver
• Fixed
  expedition on Remnants side. It coulnd't progress after sleeping
• Fixed
  guard errors that occured when having a brawl nearby and walking through the guarded area
• Fixed
  the end of Deep Mine where Jendra is supposed to open the wall, but wasn't
• Fixed
  two cliff jumps where the character could stuck in the wall afterwards
• Fixed
  that Muc didn't want to go to Rura
• Fixed
  giving Kora rustmoss
• Fixed
  bug where the quest "Missed" couldn't be finished

• 
  https://steamcommunity.com/games/1585180/announcements/detail/4506506224320086965?snr=2___

 

[onemananadhisdroid]

Started playing as well. Iron mode (just one autosave, no manuals, even disabled the tutorials, I want volles Pfund aufs Maul).

Only played the old teaser prior (which is still up on itch.io). But that barely compares... it's like a "Proof of concept". Decent stuff. I like that you can technically directly go anywhere (if you stay on the roads, which are semi-save...).


As I only have that autosave though, how do the theft mechanics work? When are you being caught?

 

[Tacgnol]

As I only have that autosave though, how do the theft mechanics work? When are you being caught?

Same as Gothic. If the owner spots you they'll get pissed off and try to beat you up. If you do it in Nemeton or the Remnants camp I think you can get fined if caught, but I've not experienced this yet.

Some NPCs actually note theft in dialogue as well even if they didn't spot you. I looted the bedroom of the tavern keeper in the remnants camp whilst doing a quest for him in the tavern's cellar. Later on, he commented in suspicion that someone had stolen from his bedroom and since you were the only person he had let down there then you were the most likely suspect.

 

[ArchAngel]

As I only have that autosave though, how do the theft mechanics work? When are you being caught?

Same as Gothic. If the owner spots you they'll get pissed off and try to beat you up. If you do it in Nemeton or the Remnants camp I think you can get fined if caught, but I've not experienced this yet.

Some NPCs actually note theft in dialogue as well even if they didn't spot you. I looted the bedroom of the tavern keeper in the remnants camp whilst doing a quest for him in the tavern's cellar. Later on, he commented in suspicion that someone had stolen from his bedroom and since you were the only person he had let down there then you were the most likely suspect.

I also saw on stream someone approach a guy wearing a shirt he stolen from his house and he was forced to give it back. Lots of incline in this game.

 

[AfterVirtue]

You realize the line "take up arms against [this] sea of troubles" means to commit suicide, right?

"Taking up arms" is the literal opposite of suicide. He's pondering how to live and if he should kill Claudius. He's oscillating between impetuous action, depression and outright suicide.

It is a choice between affirmation-being and negation non-being, whereas the affermation is action, to act towards and end, which is defined by the meaning that underlies the totality of his life - a deeper, "rational" madness but a meaning nonetheless - So, yes it all ends in death - or-and begins in it - but the way you die is not the same as it is the way you live (and yes, Marat is right, it is suicide only because it stems from a deeper pathology in Hamlet that brings destruction until the self destruction, but it is a choise of action-affirmation).

But since it is too serious, i reiterate

 

[Salvo]

Game's pretty cool. If you put ear protection on (wax plugs, which you need for a quest) all sounds, music included, ACTUALLY become muffled.
It's a small and pretty irrelevant detail, but it's nice that they would think of that.

Unfortunately though it's 2024 and every location is filled with STRONK women warriors.

 

[Sinilevä]

You are a part of the problem if you are paying for this.

 

[rojay]

As I only have that autosave though, how do the theft mechanics work? When are you being caught?

Same as Gothic. If the owner spots you they'll get pissed off and try to beat you up. If you do it in Nemeton or the Remnants camp I think you can get fined if caught, but I've not experienced this yet.

Some NPCs actually note theft in dialogue as well even if they didn't spot you. I looted the bedroom of the tavern keeper in the remnants camp whilst doing a quest for him in the tavern's cellar. Later on, he commented in suspicion that someone had stolen from his bedroom and since you were the only person he had let down there then you were the most likely suspect.

That sounds pretty fucking cool, actually. Is it consistent? Is there more of that sort of reactivity?

Edit: When they suspect you for good reason, do they act on it and if so, can you talk your way out of it?

 

[Sunri]

Is this game finished>?

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

What pronouns are people talking about I just started this and there weren't any pronouns in character creation or anything like that.

Yeah the devs look like cucks but whatever that's most people including the ones who made your favourite RPGs

 

[Konjad]

What pronouns are people talking about I just started this and there weren't any pronouns in character creation or anything like that.

Yeah the devs look like cucks but whatever that's most people including the ones who made your favourite RPGs

Some on 'dex are not here to discuss RPGs but to shit every topic with their culture war.

 

[Gandalf]

Combat wise, what are the games similar to this title?

 

[Marat]

Combat wise, what are the games similar to this title?

Gothic!

 

[HoboForEternity]

Combat wise, what are the games similar to this title?

It's literally just 2D gothic in a good way. Even how enemy telegraph their attacks is similar. You can tell which enemy attack you by audio, even different moveset have different sfx.

For example rippers will say "rrrragh!" when they do the short bite attack and "mmmrr ragh" (with a little grunt before rrraagh) when they do the jumping attack.
Altho they dont have anything as iconic as scavenger's PKOOOOOOOO!!



It was once my sms ringtone until i got complaint it sounds like someone's strangling a chicken inside my pocket