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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

Goldschmidt

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One of the symptoms of this new oversexualized age is that you can't just have two guys in a story who are good friends, they have to be gay lovers.

So in BG3 you get Balduran and Ansur, or Wulbren and Barcus. For some reason it wasn't enough to leave it at friendship, they had to sneak in a gay angle in there somehow. They almost did the same to Gortash and Durge. And you can't be too friendly to your companions or they will try to bugger you.

If they made the Lord of the Rings movies today they would 100% make Frodo and Sam gay and everyone would applaud.
Not only Frodo and Sam.

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And the woketards to piss even more on Tolkien: Arwen will be a tranny.
 

kapisi

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Earlier today saw a poll on reddit, tldr:

The most popular protagonist is female elf mage (likely women majority in there). Most popular companion is Emmerich, least popular is Taash, both in all of the various polling categories. Numbers are like 50% to 2%.

So talk the talk with representatation, but walking the walk somehow results in the old white guy.
 

Blutwurstritter

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I played bg2 for the first time since I was a kid a few years ago and I hated almost every character in the whole game and the few companions that didn't piss me off kept leaving the party for whatever whim tickled their fancy. I restarted and used all custom characters.
Unlike original BG, BG2 lacks "evil" or "neutral" characters, everyone is "good" so if you play as a pragmatic (aka "evil") person... well, I managed to have 5 party members out of supposed 6.
Was BG1 notably better in this regard? Its been a while since I've touched either game, but I remember both rewarding good actions usually more generously.
 
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I played bg2 for the first time since I was a kid a few years ago and I hated almost every character in the whole game and the few companions that didn't piss me off kept leaving the party for whatever whim tickled their fancy. I restarted and used all custom characters.
Unlike original BG, BG2 lacks "evil" or "neutral" characters, everyone is "good" so if you play as a pragmatic (aka "evil") person... well, I managed to have 5 party members out of supposed 6.
Was BG1 notably better in this regard? Its been a while since I've touched either game, but I remember both rewarding good actions usually more generously.
Xzar, Montaron, Edwin, Viconia, Eldoth, Shar Teel, Tiax. There are more but I forget who. Some mage chick I think.

Kagain.
 

Elttharion

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Earlier today saw a poll on reddit, tldr:

The most popular protagonist is female elf mage (likely women majority in there). Most popular companion is Emmerich, least popular is Taash, both in all of the various polling categories. Numbers are like 50% to 2%.

So talk the talk with representatation, but walking the walk somehow results in the old white guy.
:hahyou:
 

GrainWetski

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Reddit is discussing what Gaider meant by these tweets, now that the game is out everybody hates it.
Gaider's opinion is worth shit.

He called Dragon Age fans "fucking tourists" when they disliked how horrible Taash's character was (which is objectively atrocious - in terms of language used - even by our modern standards, nevermind compared to a supposedly mature medieval fantasy this game claimed to be the part of). A good writer would recognize that as a valid criticism.

He also called the critics of the character creator "incels" for not being able to make characters with big butts or breasts. Which is funny, because right after that comment a woman wrote in reply to him that she can't make a female character with her own D-cup size. But it must be incels who criticize the inability to make beings that aren't skinny/flat, right? Again, this shows how far he departed from reality.
What do you mean? Traash's tranny journey is the same as this! Nothing's changed at all, you bigot tourist!


 

Skinwalker

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Bioware games are definitely over-written. Ten lines of boring dialogue to deliver what could be said in one. ... In ME2 the non-combat sections drag on for so long because of this, that by the time I get back to the combat missions I forget the controls.

How fucking stupid are you, exactly?
":retarded: I forgot how to play ME2 the dialogue was so long. Left click? WASD? Wat???? :retarded:"

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Still trying to find left click on my PS4. Plz halp, small brain!
 

Camel

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Epler doing damage control with the shadowy Executors directing every big villain in Thedas behind the scenes in a post-credits scene.
“The word choice of balanced, whispered, guided is VERY DELIBERATE,” Epler said in his post, encrypting his post to avoid spoilers. “No one was forced or coerced or controlled into making any choices. It’s extremely important that ultimately everyone made their own choices. They still own the consequences of these decisions, because Dragon Age is still a series about people making decisions of their own free will and those decisions having consequences.”

“Our own history is filled with calamities avoided (or not) because of the smallest of chances,” Epler continued. “If a single person had called in sick we could’ve had nuclear war in 1983. It does not absolve any of the people involved of the decisions they made.”
 

Warrax

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What do you mean? Traash's tranny journey is the same as this! Nothing's changed at all, you bigot tourist!
Character conflicts are the beating pulse of any story -- one of the first principles beginner writers learn.

Amateur writers often avoid conflicts because it makes them uncomfortable. Looking at the milquetoast interactions in Veilguard, it's hard to believe it's written by professionals.

You wonder what "Trick" Weekes was getting paid to do, besides creative use of pronouns.
 

mediocrepoet

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Bioware games are definitely over-written. Ten lines of boring dialogue to deliver what could be said in one. ... In ME2 the non-combat sections drag on for so long because of this, that by the time I get back to the combat missions I forget the controls.

How fucking stupid are you, exactly?
":retarded: I forgot how to play ME2 the dialogue was so long. Left click? WASD? Wat???? :retarded:"
Still trying to find left click on my PS4. Plz halp, small brain!

I have to admit, before you replied, I never would've figured that I gave you too much credit.

It really is better to remain silent and let people think you're stupid instead of speaking up and proving it.
 

Skinwalker

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Bioware games are definitely over-written. Ten lines of boring dialogue to deliver what could be said in one. ... In ME2 the non-combat sections drag on for so long because of this, that by the time I get back to the combat missions I forget the controls.

How fucking stupid are you, exactly?
":retarded: I forgot how to play ME2 the dialogue was so long. Left click? WASD? Wat???? :retarded:"
Still trying to find left click on my PS4. Plz halp, small brain!

It really is better to remain silent and let people think you're stupid instead of speaking up and proving it.
Then why didn't you?
 

Skinwalker

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Earlier today saw a poll on reddit, tldr:

The most popular protagonist is female elf mage (likely women majority in there). Most popular companion is Emmerich, least popular is Taash, both in all of the various polling categories. Numbers are like 50% to 2%.

So talk the talk with representatation, but walking the walk somehow results in the old white guy.
Difficult to believe that even reddit landwhales and soycucks want to spend any time romancing Crispy.

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Semiurge

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I said it before launch and I'll repeat it again: they could've just made a visual novel spinoff and see a vastly higher profit ratio + better audience reception.

Because that's what Inquisition fans wanted, more rom-com time with egg elf and other ugly characters. Instead they got a bad action adventure with horrible romances and abominations they don't even want as pretend husbandos. Oh, also they manufactured some culture war shit just to sell copies and they didn't even sell enough.

The level of fail here is one for the books.

It turned out to be a good year after all. Veilguard flopped and was proven to be just the abomination many predicted, and Trump won. This is like cherry trees in blossom, seize the precious moment before it's gone. The empire will strike back.

Earlier today saw a poll on reddit, tldr:

The most popular protagonist is female elf mage (likely women majority in there). Most popular companion is Emmerich, least popular is Taash, both in all of the various polling categories. Numbers are like 50% to 2%.

So talk the talk with representatation, but walking the walk somehow results in the old white guy.

Female elf makes sense in the way that Rook's goody-two-shoes act doesn't come across as so unbearably moronic as it would with a male, especially human or qunari. It's the facial animations and body language.

Maybe this thing is the first "RPG" that was actually written with a female MC in mind. It would certainly make sense if they know who play Bioware slop these days.
 
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Earlier today saw a poll on reddit, tldr:

The most popular protagonist is female elf mage (likely women majority in there). Most popular companion is Emmerich, least popular is Taash, both in all of the various polling categories. Numbers are like 50% to 2%.

So talk the talk with representatation, but walking the walk somehow results in the old white guy.
Do they even release their demographics and stats like they used to? In the ME era it was revealed 80% of players went for male Shep. I think a lot of them were women too, though.
 

Elttharion

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Earlier today saw a poll on reddit, tldr:

The most popular protagonist is female elf mage (likely women majority in there). Most popular companion is Emmerich, least popular is Taash, both in all of the various polling categories. Numbers are like 50% to 2%.

So talk the talk with representatation, but walking the walk somehow results in the old white guy.
Do they even release their demographics and stats like they used to? In the ME era it was revealed 80% of players went for male Shep. I think a lot of them were women too, though.
They did for the ME remasters. 68% of players chose male Shep. Anecdotally I have never known a female player who chose the male version of a protagonist in single player games if the differences were minimal, which is the case in ME. Otoh I have several male friends who always play as female characters. Only time I have seen or talked with female players who actively chose male characters were fujos playing as twinks that they could ship with the other male characters in stuff like Genshin or other gacha games. Of course ymmv and there are possibly a bit of female players who play as male shep just to make him gay but I dont think they are a significant number.

IIRC Riot did some research about this a few years ago and around 97% of female players exclusively played female characters. Meanwhile male players were almost 50/50 between male and female characters.

We aren't abandoning half our playerbase by making more female Champions. Our data shows that female players primarily play female champions, in fact its something like 97% of female players only play female champions. Male players are evenly spilt between male and female champions, so Male players play 50/50 between male and female champions, If anything whenever we make a male champion we are abandoning most of our female players, since most of our female players won't play male champions at all."
 

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