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Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Falksi

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The shitness of the game is now causing division amongst Troon ranks...

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Pink Eye

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I'm very into cock and ball torture
Magical thinking will only make your irrational connections and cognitive biases worse.
Believing in God doesn't presuppose itself on any fantastical thinking, you know this, I know this, this is ridiculous, this is elementary atheist argumentation being postulated. Faith isn't predicated on whether or not God is real. I don't need to prove God's existence to pray to him, nor do I need to establish his power to gain comfort, strength, from his embrace in moments of adversity, pain. We turn to God precisely because of the human soul; it's a delicate thing that often times reflects on one's mortality, being alone, the future, pain, hardships, profound concepts that the human soul constantly struggles with as one ages; God is a pure thing that never leads one's soul astray, he's always there, within, giving warmth, comfort, when one accepts his presence; similar to how a Mother comforts a babe in its cradle whenever it cries. Matters of faith have nothing to do with fiction but with the resolve, fortitude, strength, to face life's challenges with the grit and determination that stems from one's connection to God.

Why do I believe in God - precisely because I've experienced the worst that life has thrown at me. Leukemia, homelessness, hopelessness, trauma, and so on. My faith in God is absolute because I know evil is real, and if evil is real, so too is God; if sin is real, then so too is God; if dreams, death, are real then so too is God.

In my experience, usually those who don't believe in God are pampered up children who haven't experienced a single real hardship.
 

Fedora Master

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Magical thinking will only make your irrational connections and cognitive biases worse.
Believing in God doesn't presuppose itself on any fantastical thinking, you know this, I know this, this is ridiculous, this is elementary atheist argumentation being postulated. Faith isn't predicated on whether or not God is real. I don't need to prove God's existence to pray to him, nor do I need to establish his power to gain comfort, strength, from his embrace in moments of adversity, pain. We turn to God precisely because of the human soul; it's a delicate thing that often times reflects on one's mortality, being alone, the future, pain, hardships, profound concepts that the human soul constantly struggles with as one ages; God is a pure thing that never leads one's soul astray, he's always there, within, giving warmth, comfort, when one accepts his presence; similar to how a Mother comforts a babe in its cradle whenever it cries. Matters of faith have nothing to do with fiction but with the resolve, fortitude, strength, to face life's challenges with the grit and determination that stems from one's connection to God.

Why do I believe in God - precisely because I've experienced the worst that life has thrown at me. Leukemia, homelessness, hopelessness, trauma, and so on. My faith in God is absolute because I know evil is real, and if evil is real, so too is God; if sin is real, then so too is God; if dreams, death, are real then so too is God.

In my experience, usually those who don't believe in God are pampered up children who haven't experienced a single real hardship.
This is a thread about trannies fighting dragons sirs
 

RickOmbo

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I'm just glad that Cain's flaw system is finally catching on. So many flawed party members in this one.
 

Cryomancer

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I would be astonished if this game even breaks even.

People in censorstation 5 has nothing to play. My guess is that will be like the Last of Us 2. Initially sell well due game journo chilling + brand recognition and quickly fell in sales. Anyway, to have a notion on how shitty game journos are :

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No way breaking even under EA with a team of 200 trannies will be enough. They need this slop to be big - VERY big.

You are ignoring the DEI agenda.

If EA can help their ESG score by having one unprofitable studio, this could be view as "profitable" for them.
 
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You think Cyberpunk licence was how large part of CP2077 436 million $ budget? 1% or less?
That budget includes years of maintenance, DLC, a music album from a famous punk band, and an animated TV show, as well as many real life conventions, with stages, costumes, sets. Again, come on. Where is Veilguard getting this stuff?

With Cyberpunk there’s also a whole aspect of the game they started work on, and were presumably still working on after it got released, that got scrapped to focus on getting the single player to run and then get to where it is today. Remember, there’s a whole Online part of the game they were also working on. They were originally also trying to have their own GTA Online money printing machine, and it sounded like something they were working on for years, and that probably ran up production cost quite a lot. You look a Rockstar Games’ budgets, and it seems like the huge price hike they’ve taken is largely down to the Online mode. Like GTA4 had a good sized budget, but that budget more than doubled for GTA5 within the same console generation and using the same engine.
 

ropetight

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For one, Canadian wages instead of Polish ones.
The punk band Refused (Samurai in game) are Swedish wages.
The TV show is Japanese wages.
The global marketing team is American wages.
And while Cyberpunk probably was actively developed for 5 or more years, especially including mantenance, was Veilguard? We know the game was cancelled and rebooted at least twice. Most likely it was in so-so development, prototypes and development candidates being pushed, until the last 2-3 years where it went into active development, and got rebooted and renamed a year ago. And it has no music album, no TV show, no DLCs yet, no maintenance yet.

I bet Cyberpunk cost more money to get to market than Veilguard. And I bet it made 10x more money, at least, but this argument is mostly about budgets, not profits.
If CP21077 numbers are not adjusted for inflation, you can easily double them in todays money/money since endemic pandemic.
CDPR had a large portion of CP development before prices started surging.
Veilguard development was mostly during high inflation.
So adjust your enthusiasm.
 

NecroLord

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Magical thinking will only make your irrational connections and cognitive biases worse.
Believing in God doesn't presuppose itself on any fantastical thinking, you know this, I know this, this is ridiculous, this is elementary atheist argumentation being postulated. Faith isn't predicated on whether or not God is real. I don't need to prove God's existence to pray to him, nor do I need to establish his power to gain comfort, strength, from his embrace in moments of adversity, pain. We turn to God precisely because of the human soul; it's a delicate thing that often times reflects on one's mortality, being alone, the future, pain, hardships, profound concepts that the human soul constantly struggles with as one ages; God is a pure thing that never leads one's soul astray, he's always there, within, giving warmth, comfort, when one accepts his presence; similar to how a Mother comforts a babe in its cradle whenever it cries. Matters of faith have nothing to do with fiction but with the resolve, fortitude, strength, to face life's challenges with the grit and determination that stems from one's connection to God.

Why do I believe in God - precisely because I've experienced the worst that life has thrown at me. Leukemia, homelessness, hopelessness, trauma, and so on. My faith in God is absolute because I know evil is real, and if evil is real, so too is God; if sin is real, then so too is God; if dreams, death, are real then so too is God.

In my experience, usually those who don't believe in God are pampered up children who haven't experienced a single real hardship.
Atheist fedora tippers are some of the most miserable people out there (maybe with a few exceptions).
Materialism doesn't prove much of anything and rationalists endlessly try to explain things like the human intellect and being capable of understanding literally everything with the power of SCIENCE, never mind the fact that there are innumerable things and occurances which have Humanity scratching its collective head trying to fully understand them...

Don't be a cunt atheist (though I perfectly understand if you are agnostic).
Bottom line is that trying to replace Faith with Materialistic Nihilism has led to an entire generation of people feeling that their lives have no meaning and are entirely hopeless.
 

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