Gay-Lussac
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Clockwork Knight said:
Jesus loves you too Clockwork. Take a deep breath and feel how the happiness and peace of mind just comes easily when you stop worrying.
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Jesus loves you too Clockwork. Take a deep breath and feel how the happiness and peace of mind just comes easily when you stop worrying.
Vault Dweller
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@ 1eyedking:
Elves create werewolves to kill humans and then ask humans to kill werewolves. Just think about it.
Also:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
Elves create werewolves to kill humans and then ask humans to kill werewolves. Just think about it.
Also:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
Nope. That's still not irony.
It would have been, if a bit vaguely, had it been the other way around: the elves enslaved the humans and then asked for their help: it's ironic when the powerful can't solve a task and turn to whom they weakened to do it instead.
Furthermore the Keeper doesn't send a human to solve the problem, but to get rid of it. Two entirely different things.
It would have been, if a bit vaguely, had it been the other way around: the elves enslaved the humans and then asked for their help: it's ironic when the powerful can't solve a task and turn to whom they weakened to do it instead.
Furthermore the Keeper doesn't send a human to solve the problem, but to get rid of it. Two entirely different things.
There's no bitter comeback in that. It's just an antithesis.Vault Dweller said:
Gay-Lussac
Arcane
Grunker said:
I doubt Jesus would have the pettiness required really hate someone. Maybe butt pirating was frowned upon by him but butt pirates certainly weren't.
MasterSmithFandango
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Hmmm... Irony is by definition a disparity between an expected outcome and an actual outcome. Now, it's not to be confused with coincidence, but is of a more... extreme nature.
Can we agree on that definition? Great, now let's go beyond that.
Lore-wise, the Elves were enslaved by humans, freed, then fought a war with the humans, and are currently seen as second class citizens at best and potential rebels at worst by humans. They hate humans considerably.
This is another point I think we can all agree on.
Now, let's put it this way. It would be like blacks in Alabama in the early 60s asking the National Guard to help them with the growing Mexican problem. That seems like a disparity between an expected outcome and the actual outcome.
Can we agree on that definition? Great, now let's go beyond that.
Lore-wise, the Elves were enslaved by humans, freed, then fought a war with the humans, and are currently seen as second class citizens at best and potential rebels at worst by humans. They hate humans considerably.
This is another point I think we can all agree on.
Now, let's put it this way. It would be like blacks in Alabama in the early 60s asking the National Guard to help them with the growing Mexican problem. That seems like a disparity between an expected outcome and the actual outcome.
Vault Dweller
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Look at it from the werewolves' point of view. Their purpose, brutally forced on them, was to kill humans for the elves, but when the werewolves' existence became an inconvenience for the elves, they didn't hesitate to ask humans - the very reason for the werewolves' existence and the cause of their suffering - to hunt them down and kill them, much like wolves were told to hunt down humans. The elves' actions betray the werewolves and their original purpose.1eyedking said:
Don't be childish.blackshoe said:
This is not irony. Irony is when the medium for the outcome bites one back: there must be a "lesson" taught somewhere.Flying Spaghetti Monster said:
You're getting everything wrong.Vault Dweller said:
Humans were cursed to live as mindless werewolves as punishment for killing the Keeper's family. In so doing, however, Witherfang was created which in time became an entity capable of giving the werewolves a will of their own, whom in turn began attacking the elven settlement. Thus the recent cause of the elves' suffering is the Keeper's own thirst for vengeance, not the humans themselves. The irony is, in any case, that the same curse he used to punish his enemies is now punishing him for his own cruel revenge.
Of course, Gaider is not smart enough to realize this, and it shows in his candid grasp of what the true meaning of irony is.
Finding a cure for lycanthropy is not the same as removing the curse altogether, since the first allows arbitrary selection: elves would get cured, while human werewolves would be either killed or remain cursed.[img:k5xurt35]http://www.tacticularcancer.com/system/templates/classic/images/volly.gif[/img] said:
Can we have a new forum without all the newbie trolls?
DreadMessiah
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So you are saying you are a piece of shit?fizzelopeguss said:
roll-a-die
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I'm a newbie but not a troll may I be included?
Lesifoere
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I haven't read through all the pages, but tell me, did you people actually spend over 50 pages discussing DA's story and writing (and VD spending most of those pages defending said writing rabidly)? You might as well analyze and evaluate the literary merit of a Star Wars novel. If that. I take it as given that no thought went into the setting, the story, or the characters. Or much of anything, hence the blatant rip-offs and lack of coherence. Most of it is a sad attempt at subverting tropes with varying degrees of success (mostly failure).
MasterSmithFandango
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No, we've dealt with most of the bitching points. Combat is shit, Writing is Shit, characters are shit, graphics are shit, quests are shit, the Grey Wardens are shit, and I'm sure I'm forgetting something else that's shit, too.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
Magister
No, we discussed about the infernal MMORPG combat, what else matters?
Have you ever read a Star Wars novel? I can see you have not, otherwise you'd know that their literary merit is somewhere at Dragonball level they are awesome.
EDIT : You forgot shit music.
Have you ever read a Star Wars novel? I can see you have not, otherwise you'd know that their literary merit is somewhere at Dragonball level they are awesome.
EDIT : You forgot shit music.
Grifthin
Educated
The blood dragon is nice, But I prefer the Juggernaut armor.
Silellak
Cipher
You have a lot of anger. Anyone ever mention that to you?
i see his point actually, but not really bothered. The dragon imprint on the plate is just too much (TM) to take. Much like having a Nike swish on boots or something.
Anyways I'm disappointed the rogues in this game are either a faggot or a shoe loving princess.
Anyways I'm disappointed the rogues in this game are either a faggot or a shoe loving princess.
Grifthin
Educated
It's a Cylon helm 
wait, no it's the laser eyeball dude from xmen!
wait, no it's the laser eyeball dude from xmen!
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